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> > of Debian. If non-source files are distributed in Debian source
> > packages, without a way to confiden
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(I'm assuming, from the lack of response to this point, that this is
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> What's your position
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> >>> If it's in the Debian source package, it is distributed as part of
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> > My understanding of the FTP team's operating policy for wha
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> > I am using https://wiki.debian.org/BenFinney/software/repack>
> > for another package, to remove non-source JavaScript files from the
> > Debian source package.
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> > I have now r
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> | Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for
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> These have been fixed now.
Not for me. The VCS repository link just gives a 404 error.
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> Fixed.
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> various natural languages, suitable for inclusion in Debian as a data
> package?
The package ‘scowl’ https://packages.debian.org/sid/scowl> looks
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> > Rebuilding from source *is* a reasonable requirement, attainable with
> > what we have today in Debian, for JavaSc
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> > non-JavaScript cases brought up later in the thread, the requirement
> > (build from source form, with only
d, un-minimised JavaScript. That's what needs to be the
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> > arguments to put special effort into the centralised single point of
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> > For example, the centralised proprietary GitHub “pull request” i
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> > GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can only
> > work between repositories hosted inside the GitHub silo, and any
> > project using that feature is the
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> > How can a collaborator Alice, with no GitHub account, get the pull
> > request?
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> Public github repositories do not need a github account to clone.
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