Re: How should Debian CI handle autopkgtests that require more than three hours

2025-05-09 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Thursday, May 8, 2025 11:31:41 PM Mountain Standard Time Paul Gevers wrote: > An alternative that can be done now: the timeout of 2:47h is per test > stanza in d/t/control (see autopkgtest(1). For some test suites it's not > hard to split the test suite over multiple stanza. The overal timeout

Trouble posting to debian-devel

2025-05-09 Thread Antonio Russo
Hello all, I tried to post to this list two times yesterday morning. Roughly, the content was about a security issue. Neither post was rejected, nor did I receive a bounce, but it did not show up on the list. I'm not repeating the content of that email, since I'm not sure if the content is the

Re: ITN procedure?

2025-05-09 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Lucas Nussbaum (2025-05-09 09:40:38) > On 09/05/25 at 06:10 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Am Thu, May 08, 2025 at 09:56:47PM +0200 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum: > > > > The point of this sentence is to define what is non-consensual in the > > > > first place. Changing the packaging style means

Re: Trouble posting to debian-devel

2025-05-09 Thread Daniel Gröber
Hi Antonio, On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 08:31:22AM -0600, Antonio Russo wrote: > I'd also like to confirm there is a policy (or at least agreement) > that running code as root unnecessarily is a problem. Quoting https://release.debian.org/trixie/rc_policy.txt : In addition to the issues listed in t

Re: FTBFS when /bin is before /usr/bin in PATH?

2025-05-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2025-05-08 03:08:17 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > I challenge that may be pre-mature optimization: > > jas@kaka:~$ ls /usr/bin/|wc -l > 4675 > jas@kaka:~$ ls /usr/games/|wc -l > 21 > jas@kaka:~$ Indeed. I thought that there were a lot more in /usr/games. -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web:

Re: Intend To Orphan (ITO) procedure?

2025-05-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2025-05-08 Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi, > Am Thu, May 08, 2025 at 06:48:33PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Metzler: > > It > > just hides the fact that they are unmaintained and makes it therefore > > harder to find stuff that should be orphaned and/or removed. > Just a short comment: In the Bug of the

/usr/games usage (Re: FTBFS when /bin is before /usr/bin in PATH?)

2025-05-09 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 07:15:03PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > jas@kaka:~$ ls /usr/games/|wc -l > > 21 > Indeed. I thought that there were a lot more in /usr/games. $ apt-file search /usr/games|wc -l 1184 -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|lay

Re: FTBFS when /bin is before /usr/bin in PATH?

2025-05-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-05-09 at 13:15, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2025-05-08 03:08:17 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> I challenge that may be pre-mature optimization: >> >> jas@kaka:~$ ls /usr/bin/|wc -l >> 4675 >> jas@kaka:~$ ls /usr/games/|wc -l >> 21 >> jas@kaka:~$ > > Indeed. I thought that there were

RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Lucas, Am Fri, May 09, 2025 at 09:40:38AM +0200 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum: > > > If a NMU involves changing the packaging style _and_ making other changes, > > > it's also possible to publish the changes somewhere as a serie of patches > > > rather than as a single patch. > > > > Fixing item 4 pr

Re: Trouble posting to debian-devel

2025-05-09 Thread Antonio Russo
On 2025-05-09 08:20, Boyuan Yang wrote: Just a reminder: if you are trying to report a sensitive security issue: DO NOT post on debian-devel or other public mailing lists to avoid disclosing it to the public in an unwanted way. Please contact Debian Security Team via secur...@debian.org . If it

Re: Trouble posting to debian-devel

2025-05-09 Thread Boyuan Yang
Hi, 在 5/9/2025 9:17 AM, Antonio Russo 写道: Hello all, I tried to post to this list two times yesterday morning. Roughly, the content was about a security issue.  Neither post was rejected, nor did I receive a bounce, but it did not show up on the list. I'm not repeating the content of that ema

Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-09 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 09/05/25 at 10:27 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > However, I have doubts about (4), since there's still so many different > > workflows to use Git+Salsa. > > Which brings us back to DEP-14 as a baseline recommendation that can > help reduce friction. While individual workflows vary, having some

Re: ITN procedure?

2025-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Fri, May 09, 2025 at 10:22:02AM +0200 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: > I find it smelly when a team-maintained package lacks individuals within > that team being responsible for the package, and worry if pushing smelly > lone-hero-maintained packages to be team-maintained just shifts the > flavor of

Re: ITN procedure?

2025-05-09 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 09/05/25 at 06:10 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Am Thu, May 08, 2025 at 09:56:47PM +0200 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum: > > > The point of this sentence is to define what is non-consensual in the > > > first place. Changing the packaging style means the NMU diff will be > > > difficult to review. > >

Re: RFC for changes regarding NMU in developers reference (Was: ITN procedure?)

2025-05-09 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 12:43:54PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 09/05/25 at 10:27 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > However, I have doubts about (4), since there's still so many different > > > workflows to use Git+Salsa. same here. > > Which brings us back to DEP-14 as a baseline recommenda