On 09/05/25 at 06:10 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Am Thu, May 08, 2025 at 09:56:47PM +0200 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum:
> > > The point of this sentence is to define what is non-consensual in the
> > > first place. Changing the packaging style means the NMU diff will be
> > > difficult to review.
> > 
> > It don't think that it's about the ability to review the diff.
> 
> The goal of the Bug of the Day initiative--through which the mentioned
> NMUs were prepared--is to reduce packaging smells[1], which are:
> 
>   1. Debhelper compatibility level: lower than 9 is a smell (we set 13)
>   2. Build system: not using dh is a smell.
>   3. Source format and patch system: not using 3.0 is a smell
>   4. VCS: not using Git and Salsa is a smell (except if the package is using 
> dgit).
> 
> > If a NMU involves changing the packaging style _and_ making other changes,
> > it's also possible to publish the changes somewhere as a serie of patches
> > rather than as a single patch.
> 
> Fixing item 4 provides a well-known and convenient way to publish all
> patches, along with build logs automatically generated by Salsa CI.

I'm obviously a bit biaised since I authored trends.debian.net and thus
arbitrarily decided of that list of « smells ». I agree with you that the
first three items are things that it is reasonable to fix in an NMU
(except in special cases, for example if the package is team-maintained,
and the the team standardizes on using cdbs or source format 1.0).

However, I have doubts about (4), since there's still so many different
workflows to use Git+Salsa.

Also, while (1-3) are things that can be worked on, sent to DELAYED/x,
and cancelled if the maintainer disagrees, one cannot really do the same
with switching to Git.

Lucas

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