On 17/04/18 22:42, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:39:22PM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote:
>> Also, @lists.alioth.debian.org addresses that were *not* migrated now
>> result in bounces as expected. Are there already plans for a MBF
>> severity RC against all packages with a now-fail
On 18/04/18 01:30, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> That's another perfect example why udeb additions should get reviewed:
> we would have noticed another buggy package, and its bugginess might not
> have been copied over to another package.
I'm sure people don't request those reviews because they don't k
Hello,
>Tobi, I never knew I could simply self-appoint myself to maintainer with
>a simple (sponsored) upload of libpng16 (a package you co-maintain) or
>tokyocabinet (a package you maintain), drop you to uploader or nothing
>and you'd be cool with that. Hey, it's in collab-maint after all, isn't
Hello folks,
I found myself prone to forget what "same" or "foreign" means
in the Multi-Arch section. Once and once again I have to lookup
docs to fugure out what they stand for. These two words don't
explicitly present their meaning. Based on this, I'm writting to
put forward an idea for improvin
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Bill Allombert wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:31:58PM +0100, James Clarke wrote:
> > > Even the wiki page you linked there states that GitLab "allows extra
> > > files to be attached to the tag".
> >
> > But it does not s
Dear Rolf.
Rolf Leggewie - 18.04.18, 07:19:
[…]
> @ALL, it seems like no matter what I say, no matter how I explain my
> reasons, I cannot convince quite a number of people. So, I plan not
> to waste my time on trying anymore. Steve is much better of getting
> to the relevant points anyhow. I c
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 08:00:53AM +, Lumin wrote:
> [...]
> Your opinion?
>
> [1] https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debmake-doc/debmake-doc.en.txt
> policy and dev-ref don't explain the Multi-Arch field.
No opinion, but the field is documented in deb-control(5), present in
the dpkg-de
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible I/O
> tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that Lucas removed
> you as a maintainer.
But that didn't happen, unless you put different meaning in
Rolf,
you have made your point about the conflict that arose about a package
which you may or may not have been maintaining. Fair enough.
However, from your last two messages, it seems to me that you feel
wronged by active members on this mailing list in quite a few ways
beyond what has been happ
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Joel Cross
* Package name: python-cerberus
Version : 1.2
Upstream Author : Nicola Iarocci
* URL : http://github.com/pyeve/cerberus
* License : ISC
Programming Lang: Python
Description : Lightweight, extensible da
Dimitri et al.,
> With all due respect to yourself, waldi, and ftp-team (masters &
> assistants & wizards), I find this reject comment inappropriate, and
> not at all informative enough.
Regardless of the merit of your arguments, I am sure it would have
been more productive to reply to Thorsten &
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, at 6:25 PM, Daniele Nicolodi wrote:
> On 4/17/18 8:57 AM, Joel Cross wrote:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Owner: Joel Cross
> >
> > * Package name: python-base58
> > Version : 0.2.5
> > Upstream Author : David Keijser
> > * URL : ht
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:52:18PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
>
> Whilst this is not the most egregious example, I am not enjoying
> this recent trend of almost-immediately escalating issues to our
> mailing lists.
>
...
>
> If one feels hurt or aggrievied by an interaction that might be
> complet
On 18/04/2018 13:52, Chris Lamb wrote:
With all due respect to yourself, waldi, and ftp-team (masters &
assistants & wizards), I find this reject comment inappropriate, and
not at all informative enough.
Regardless of the merit of your arguments, I am sure it would have
been more productive to
Hi Andrey.
Andrey Rahmatullin - 18.04.18, 11:55:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible I/O
> > tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that Lucas
> > removed you as a maintainer.
>
>
Roberto C. Sánchez (2018-04-18):
> I have, on occasion, written messages that I later (sometimes even
> immediately) regretted. What has worked well for me and helped prevent
> me from initiating or compounding situations like those you point out
> is this process:
>
> - Get upset over whatever t
On 2018-04-17 22:34, Christoph Biedl wrote:
> Also, choosing the names in sorted order (modulo wraparound) would
> create a list in historic order of the releases, easing some assessment
> when talking about releases. That's what Ubuntu does, although using
Please define "sorted order", not everyb
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
Please define "sorted order", not everybody order letters the same way.
really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
Mike Stone
On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
>> As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible
>> I/O tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that
>> Lucas removed you as a maintainer.
>
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > Please define "sorted order", not everybody order letters the same way.
> really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
yes, sorting depends on
On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 10:45 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> >
> > > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible
> > > I/O tester) I can certainly underst
The Wanderer writes ("Re: problems in gjots2 and Debian"):
> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > But that didn't happen, unless you put different meaning into
> > Maintainer and Uploaders.
>
> If you don't assign different meanings to "Maintainer:" and
> "Uploaders:", what's the
On 2018-04-18 at 10:53, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 10:45 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>>> But that didn't happen, unless you put different meaning into
>>> Maintainer and Uploaders.
>>
>> If you don't assign different mea
The Wanderer writes ("Re: problems in gjots2 and Debian"):
> If it really is intended that the listed Maintainer be on an equal
> footing with any and all listed Uploaders, and there's no semantic
> difference between these fields - just the arbitrary limitation that one
> of them can't have more t
Am Mittwoch, den 18.04.2018, 14:55 +0500 schrieb Andrey Rahmatullin:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible
> > I/O tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that
> > Lucas removed you as
On 04/18/2018 05:01 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-04-18 at 10:53, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 10:45 -0400, The Wanderer wrote
>>
>>> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>
But that didn't happen, unless you put different meaning into
Maintainer a
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> Please define "sorted order", not everybody order letters the same way.
really? there's more than one al
On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
yes, sorting depends on the locale... :)
Can you please give an example for the sorting difference in
On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:14:50 -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
specifically, what locale sorts english words differently than LANG=C?
Since English words (or texts) can have 8bit characters you may get
a different sorting in in different locales.
If you mean ASCII words I don’t know of any sort
On 4/18/18 5:58 AM, Joel Cross wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, at 6:25 PM, Daniele Nicolodi wrote:
>> On 4/17/18 8:57 AM, Joel Cross wrote:
>>> Package: wnpp
>>> Severity: wishlist
>>> Owner: Joel Cross
>>>
>>> * Package name: python-base58
>>> Version : 0.2.5
>>> Upstream Author : D
Hello Ian,
On Wed, Apr 18 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
> IMO it would be better to abolish Uploaders in favour of fixing the
> original spec bug in Maintainers. Also, easier, because as a
> practical matter, there is a lot of software that will fail if it
> fails to find a Maintainer field but won't
Sean Whitton writes ("Re: problems in gjots2 and Debian"):
> [stuff]
I don't object to any of that.
Personally I would prefer to manage maintainership via a separate
database to the archive, perhaps tracker. Something would have to
automatically generate Maintainer and/or Uploaders for the benef
Chris Lamb dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:52:18PM +0100]:
> (...)
> Whilst this is not the most egregious example, I am not enjoying
> this recent trend of almost-immediately escalating issues to our
> mailing lists.
>
> As has been pointed out elsewhere, people make mistakes in
> technical matters
Hello,
On Wed, Apr 18 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Personally I would prefer to manage maintainership via a separate
> database to the archive, perhaps tracker. Something would have to
> automatically generate Maintainer and/or Uploaders for the benefit of
> old consumers.
I think we all want thi
Stephan Seitz dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:11:47PM +0200]:
> On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
> > yes, sorting depends on the loca
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:13:08PM +0200, Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
> Team maintained packages usually have team's name and mailing list in
> the "Maintainer:" field and possibly multiple "Uploaders:".
Sure. And either they convey some info with that (like Python teams do) or
not.
And somebody might
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 03:19:51PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible I/O
> > > tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that Lucas
> > > removed you as a maintainer.
> >
> > But that didn't happen, unless you put di
Athos Ribeiro dijo [Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 06:31:31PM -0300]:
> (...)
> I can not change what had happened here but I hope we can put this
> behind us and move forward.
>
> @debian-devel:
>
> I am sorry my past actions have been taking so much time of everyone
> else, which could be put into someth
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:00:51PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Instead, tools grew to tolerate commas here rather than treat them as
> separators (because they would mishandle the erroneous packages).
Is this the main problem with fixing the Policy? Does someone have a plan
with this?
--
WBR, wRA
On April 18, 2018 9:19 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> But why would ü not be part of the sorting? Yes, that was my example
> before you censored my thought process - In Spanish, [áéíóú] and
> [aeiou] share the same spot while ordering, as do ñ and n, as do u and
> ü (and we have no further diacriticals)
Matthew Crews dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 01:10:06PM -0400]:
> On April 18, 2018 9:19 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > But why would ü not be part of the sorting? Yes, that was my example
> > before you censored my thought process - In Spanish, [áéíóú] and
> > [aeiou] share the same spot while ordering,
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:19:05AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Stephan Seitz dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:11:47PM +0200]:
On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > really? there's more than one alphabetical ord
Matthew Crews writes:
> As far as diacritics go, American English is practically devoid of
> them. Where they are present, native (American) English speakers
> basically ignore them, so the words résumé (n) and resume (v) share the
> same spot in any given English dictionary. Other symbols like Æ
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 01:00:08PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Adrian Bunk writes ("Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW
> process"):
>...
> > What happens outside of our archive (e.g. in Ubuntu or .debian.net)
> > is nothing we officially provide to our users.
>
> I don't agree, but t
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:14:50AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > > > Please define "sorted orde
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:14:50AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> >
> >yes, sorting depends on the locale... :)
>
> specifically, what locale sorts english words differently than LANG=C?
Czech (cs_CZ) for one.
% cat animals
cheetah
Hi Christoph,
> First, Dom asked for the analysis that led to my number of somewhat
> 1450 affected packages. He got this in private, a refined version
> below, it boils down to: Any package with a @lists.alioth.debian.org
> address in Maintainer: is affected if and only if the localpart of that
>
Hi Gunnar,
> > Can you please give an example for the sorting difference in different
> > locales if you only have english words (and I would say it means only ASCII
> > in this case)?
[…]
> But... Ok, lets stick to 7-bit ASCII as defined. When I was in primary
> school, "ch" and "ll" were treated
Hello,
There is currently some momentum to make espeak-ng able to use mbrola
voices. I am thus uploading them to Debian. Here is the list of ITPs:
Bug#896026: Acknowledgement (ITP: mbrola-ar1 -- Arabic male voice for Mbrola)
Bug#896027: Acknowledgement (ITP: mbrola-ar2 -- Arabic male voice for M
On 19/04/18 03:11, Stephan Seitz wrote:
Can you please give an example for the sorting difference in different
locales if you only have english words (and I would say it means only
ASCII in this case)?
In the C locale, all uppercase letters are sorted before all lowercase
letters:
$ echo -e
Christoph Biedl wrote...
> Also, @lists.alioth.debian.org addresses that were *not* migrated now
> result in bounces as expected. Are there already plans for a MBF
> severity RC against all packages with a now-failing maintainer address?
Following the rule a social ecosystem can work only if you'
On 04/17/2018 09:21 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
"It is my understanding that is a RC bug for package to recommend a
library that has been removed from Testing because recommended
packages won't be auto-removed on upgrade."
Neither will Suggested: packages, by the way, depending on
APT::AutoRemove:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 09:52:18PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:00:51PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Instead, tools grew to tolerate commas here rather than treat them as
> > separators (because they would mishandle the erroneous packages).
> Is this the main probl
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