Re: ca-certificates: no more cacert.org certificates?!?

2014-03-25 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > Lack of use? No kidding. TLSA RRs have been promoted to IETF proposed > > > standard in August 2012[1]. And DNS servers haven't support for them > > > since recently (I'd say 6 months to 1 year). > > > > DNS servers have supported them for years;

Re: Bug#741930: reportbug: add current init system information

2014-03-25 Thread Thomas Weber
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 05:03:00PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 08:41:48AM +0100, Thomas Weber wrote: > > And while we are at it, do we *really* need the information about > > /bin/sh in at least a significant share of today's bug reports? > > You probably want it, beca

Re: Bug#741930: reportbug: add current init system information

2014-03-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Weber writes: > The fact that a lot of people use a variety of shells does not mean that > it makes sense to include it in *every* bug report. How important is the > user's shell for every database-, web- or fileserver? How for every > office application? How important is it for requests t

Bug#742586: ITP: python-rednose -- coloured output for nosetests

2014-03-25 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-rednose Version : 0.4.1 Upstream Author : Tim Cuthbertson * URL : http://gfxmonk.net/dist/0install/rednose.xml * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Python Description :

Processed: Re: Bug#742540: general: Get the "Oh no!" message after moving the top menu bar to the left side of then screen

2014-03-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 742540 gnome-panel Bug #742540 [general] general: Get the "Oh no!" message after moving the top menu bar to the left side of then screen Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'gnome-panel'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of

Bug#742540: general: Get the "Oh no!" message after moving the top menu bar to the left side of then screen

2014-03-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
reassign 742540 gnome-panel thanks Le lundi 24 mars 2014 à 16:22 -0500, Lowell a écrit : > After moving the top menu bar to the left side of the screen I am forced to > logout, and then on every login I am forced to logout. > If I knew which config files to edit I could login as another user and

Bug#742593: ITP: wcslib-contrib -- Draw and label curvilinear coordinate grids with pgplot

2014-03-25 Thread Ole Streicher
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org X-Debbugs-CC: debian-as...@lists.debian.org X-Debbugs-CC: debian-scie...@lists.debian.org * Package name: wcslib-contrib Version : 4.21 Upstream Author : Mark Calabretta * URL : http://www.atn

Re: ca-certificates: no more cacert.org certificates?!?

2014-03-25 Thread Raphael Geissert
Edward Allcutt wrote: >>> Le 24/03/2014 14:23, Raphael Geissert a écrit : If only people actually used DNSSEC and DANE - Chromium/Google Chrome dropped support for the latter due to the lack of use[1]. [1]https://www.imperialviolet.org/2011/06/16/dnssecchrome.html > > I believe

Bug#742597: ITP: casperjs -- a navigation scripting & testing utility for PhantomJS and SlimerJS written in Javascript

2014-03-25 Thread Xavier Claude
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Xavier Claude * Package name: casperjs Version : 1.0.4 Upstream Author : Nicolas Perriault * URL : http://casperjs.org/ * License : MIT Programming Lang: JavaScript, Python Description : a navigation scripting &

Bug#742599: ITP: python-termstyle -- console colouring for python

2014-03-25 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-termstyle Version : 0.1.10 Upstream Author : Tim Cuthbertson * URL : http://gfxmonk.net/dist/0install/python-termstyle.xml * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Python Descr

Re: Glom DEBIAN packaging

2014-03-25 Thread Oscar Tark
Thank you for the suggesions -- Forwarded message -- From: Oscar Tark Date: 2014-03-21 19:04 GMT+01:00 Subject: Glom DEBIAN packaging To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Hello, I am having problems building the glom debian .deb package so that we may easily install glom on all ou

Re: Bug#741930: reportbug: add current init system information

2014-03-25 Thread brian m. carlson
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 08:12:06AM +0100, Thomas Weber wrote: > The fact that a lot of people use a variety of shells does not mean that > it makes sense to include it in *every* bug report. How important is the > user's shell for every database-, web- or fileserver? How for every office > applicat

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, Kevin Toppins wrote: > -> Debian needs to *cut all ties* to systemd […] > -> revert every program systemd took over to its pre-systemd state > > -> cut your losses while you still can technically achieve a reversion Seconded (especially the last bullet point). bye, //mi

Re: [cjwatson debian.org: Accepted grub2 2.02~beta2-7 (source i386)]

2014-03-25 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Simon McVittie debian.org> writes: > (I would recommend that porters doing manual builds use sbuild if at all > possible, though, to be as close as possible to what a buildd would have > done.) On the other hand, porters are often packagers, and many packagers are much more familiar with cowbuil

Re: [cjwatson debian.org: Accepted grub2 2.02~beta2-7 (source i386)]

2014-03-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Tue, 25 Mar 2014, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On the other hand, porters are often packagers, and many packagers are > much more familiar with cowbuilder or pbuilder as it’s *much* simpler > to set up, and also provides good isolation. How so? With sbuild-createchroot, sbuild is really simple

Bug#742613: ITP: ocaml-ctypes -- library for binding to C libraries using pure OCaml

2014-03-25 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stéphane Glondu * Package name: ocaml-ctypes Version : 0.2.3 Upstream Author : Jeremy Yallop * URL : https://github.com/ocamllabs/ocaml-ctypes * License : Expat Programming Lang: C, OCaml Description : library for

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
On 24/03/2014 17:42, Kevin Toppins wrote: > To all debian developers: [snip] > -Kev Lots of asterisks won't make a point. federico -- Federico Di Gregorio federico.digrego...@dndg.it Di Nunzio & Di Gregorio srl http://dndg.it If nobody unde

Re: ca-certificates: no more cacert.org certificates?!?

2014-03-25 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:22:53 +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: >I just want to note that Startcom is no match to cacert.org in regards to free >SSL certificates. Some years ago I got free certificate from Startcom but a >year later Startcom refused to renew it for free. They renew their certificates

Re: ca-certificates: no more cacert.org certificates?!?

2014-03-25 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Marc Haber (2014-03-25): > They renew their certificates only in the last (two?) weeks of the > lifetime. Correct, two weeks. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#741930: reportbug: add current init system information

2014-03-25 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > Ok, I think we need a wider audience - what d-d thinks about it? bonus > points if - in case we come out to add init info to every bug report - > a proper way to retrieve the init running is provided :) could we please stop talking about shel

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 25 March 2014 08:54, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: [...] > Lots of asterisks won't make a point. The asterisks are there to specifically focus your attention on those words. Because -> I find that if I don't use them -> people tend to misread what I write (or more so at least) -Kev -- To UN

Re: Bug#741930: reportbug: add current init system information

2014-03-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Sandro Tosi writes: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> Ok, I think we need a wider audience - what d-d thinks about it? bonus >> points if - in case we come out to add init info to every bug report - >> a proper way to retrieve the init running is provided :) > could we p

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I was very proud of my fellow colleagues for not feeding the troll a full 24 hours later. Thanks for breaking the record :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debia

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
On 25/03/2014 16:46, Kevin Toppins wrote: > On 25 March 2014 08:54, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > [...] >> > Lots of asterisks won't make a point. > The asterisks are there to specifically focus your attention on those words. > > Because -> I find that if I don't use them -> people tend to misrea

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 04:15:25PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I was very proud of my fellow colleagues for not feeding the troll a > full 24 hours later. Thanks for breaking the record :( I agree -> I even *told* people on #-devel to not even -> bother replying -> since I figured no one woul

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 25 March 2014 11:25, William Unruh wrote: [...] > And if they are there, together with all the boldfacing, people tend to > think that you are a complete kook. So you makes your choices... Okay, my apologies. I am not very experienced with lists and the expectations that run within them. Her

Re: Bug#741930: reportbug: add current init system information

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 25.03.2014 17:14, schrieb Russ Allbery: > Sandro Tosi writes: >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > >>> Ok, I think we need a wider audience - what d-d thinks about it? bonus >>> points if - in case we come out to add init info to every bug report - >>> a proper way to ret

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Brett Parker
On 25 Mar 11:36, Kevin Toppins wrote: > On 25 March 2014 11:25, William Unruh wrote: > [...] > > And if they are there, together with all the boldfacing, people tend to > > think that you are a complete kook. So you makes your choices... > > Okay, my apologies. > > I am not very experienced with

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 16:15, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I was very proud of my fellow colleagues for not feeding the troll a > full 24 hours later. Thanks for breaking the record :( I had a hope that the no one will answer OP. :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Kevin Toppins
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:40:02 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I was very proud of my fellow colleagues for not feeding the troll a > full 24 hours later. Thanks for breaking the record :( Jonathan we've been through this before. -> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/11/msg

Bug#742639: ITP: python-expyriment -- Python library for cognitive and neuroscientific experiments

2014-03-25 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Yaroslav Halchenko * Package name: python-expyriment Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : Oliver Lindemann * URL : http://www.expyriment.org * License : GPL-3.0+ Programming Lang: Python Description : Python library

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 01:31:44PM -0500, Kevin Toppins wrote: > Jonathan we've been through this before. > > -> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/11/msg00565.html > > -> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/11/msg00604.html Thanks for the trip down memory lane. This is not

Re: FTPMaster position statement about package contents

2014-03-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 13525 March 1977, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: >> If you can answer these questions with a yes or even a maybe - don't > While I did agree mostly with this. I believe the last sentence should > be reworded. Because aircrack-ng, crack or rarcrack could 'maybe' harm > Debian/mirrors or derivatives. >

Re: FTPMaster position statement about package contents

2014-03-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 13526 March 1977, Ming-ting Wei wrote: > Distributing pornography in academic network in Taiwan seems like a gray > area. http://edu.law.moe.gov.tw/EngLawContent.aspx?Type=E&id=2 Nice for them, but thats a minority. > If it can be distributed from a separate repo it should be fine, but I also

Re: jquery debate with upstream

2014-03-25 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2014-03-24 17:23, Thorsten Glaser wrote: I don’t have the source of it at hand (and IANAftpmaster), but right now, the answer is NO because the promise of the DFSG and surrounding documents also extends to not just the source pak- kages but also the distfiles (*.orig.tar.*) isolated. Basically

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Cameron Norman
El Mon, 24 de Mar 2014 a las 9:42 AM, Kevin Toppins escribió: To all debian developers: -> systemd is *fundamentally incompatible* with linux Now, I realize that's a bold claim, but if you are up for some reading, I will prove it. I'll bite. I even went to Lennart Poettering's google+

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Cameron Norman
El Tue, 25 de Mar 2014 a las 3:11 PM, Cameron Norman escribió: See the documentation for the following if they are not familiar to you: * dependencies: Wants/WantedBy, Requires/RequiredBy (in man::systemd.unit) * states: ConditionFileExists, ConditionFileExecutable, Condition* (probably in man

Re: systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it

2014-03-25 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Brett Parker contributed: > Maybe you should do some more investigation, get some better clue of > what you're talking about, and come back with a better, more thought > out, set of arguments that actually have merit. Right, by arguing on the basis of the definition of Lin

Re: jquery debate with upstream

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:16:12PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: > To be honest I'd rather like to see a "ruling" which is codified in > a policy than random guesswork we do on -devel from observing FTP > masters' actions. This is not Mao. There was an ftpteam meeting last week, and this was discusse

Re: jquery debate with upstream

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:16 AM, Philipp Kern wrote: > To be honest I'd rather like to see a "ruling" which is codified in a policy > than random guesswork we do on -devel from observing FTP masters' actions. > This is not Mao. Figuring out what the source is and where it is can be hard, even for

dist-upgrade strangeness: dependencies not deconfigured

2014-03-25 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear all, during upgrade tests from stable to sid I found that upgrading TeX Live does not work. The reason is that although texlive-common is uninstalled, and texlive-base (2012) *depends* on texlive-common, texlive-base is still in installed and proper state: un texlive-common (

Re: ca-certificates: no more cacert.org certificates?!?

2014-03-25 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:29:12 Marc Haber wrote: > wrote: > >I just want to note that Startcom is no match to cacert.org in regards to > >free SSL certificates. Some years ago I got free certificate from Startcom > >but a year later Startcom refused to renew it for free. > > They renew their certif

Re: dist-upgrade strangeness: dependencies not deconfigured

2014-03-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:01:24AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote: > Dear all, > during upgrade tests from stable to sid I found that upgrading > TeX Live does not work. > The reason is that although texlive-common is uninstalled, > and texlive-base (2012) *depends* on texlive-common, > texlive-ba

Re: dist-upgrade strangeness: dependencies not deconfigured

2014-03-25 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Steve, thanks for the answer. On Tue, 25 Mar 2014, Steve Langasek wrote: > I think your root cause analysis is wrong. If you want help understanding > why your dist-upgrade didn't work, you should show the output of the actual > apt command. Which is very very long, unfortunately. > What yo