Re: Stepping the clock during boot

2010-08-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[John Hasler] > Would it be unacceptable for Chrony to step the clock (particularly > back) during boot? If you are going to do this, it might be a good idea to try to do it before the syslog collector starts, as most daemons depend on $syslog and would thus start after the clock is correct. Happ

Re: which gfortran version is used to compile liblapack.so.3gf.0

2010-08-03 Thread Luca Bruno
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi scrisse: > Is there a way to find out the version of gfortran compiler used to > build /usr/lib/lapack/liblapack.so.3gf.0 in the package liblapack3gf > 3.2.1-8 on i386 Debian testing machine? I tried looking at > https://buildd.debian.org/build.php?arch=i386&pkg=lapack . But

When the init.d script exist, the service should be operational

2010-08-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
During my work on dependency based boot sequencing and parallel booting, I have ran across bugs in packages exposed by the new boot ordering, and thought it best to mention it here. The SysV boot system runs init.d scripts in sequence with the assumption that when a script exits, its service is o

Re: When the init.d script exist, the service should be operational

2010-08-03 Thread Josef Spillner
In data martedì, 3. di agosto 2010 10:45:41, Petter Reinholdtsen ha scritto: > If you maintain a package with a service started during boot using a > init.d script, please make sure your service is operational when the > init.d script exits. There are two disadvantages to this approach: It decreas

Re: Stepping the clock during boot

2010-08-03 Thread Edward Allcutt
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: Well, it's a reason. But note that such backward stepping would only happen when your clock is really screwed up. brian writes: It actually used to happen every reboot of my server, which is why I'm aware of the dovecot problem. When ntp (or n

More advanced home directory creation in Debian?

2010-08-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
I got this idea from Debian Edu, where we need to run scripts when a user is created to create files adjusted for each user, and we would like this to work with any tool used to create users. At the moment, a users home directory is created by adduser and other tools by copying the content of /et

Re: Stepping the clock during boot

2010-08-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Edward Allcutt] > You could append +chrony to the $time line in /etc/insserv.conf as a local > fix. You might be able to ship a /etc/insserv.conf.d/chrony that to that > effect but I'm unsure whether that would replace or add to the existing > line. I couldn't find documentation on exactly how th

Re: Seeking machines for nightly builds of ITK

2010-08-03 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > Can I use the official Debian developer machines for this task? As long as you do it manually. Maybe an alternative is to upload packages to experimental. -- | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Peter Palfrader |

Bug#591460: ITP: libcache-memcached-managed-perl -- Memcached storage backend for Catalyst

2010-08-03 Thread Antony Gelberg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Antony Gelberg * Package name: libcache-memcached-managed-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : 0.04 * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-Memcached/ * License : GPL / Artistic Programming L

Re: which gfortran version is used to compile liblapack.so.3gf.0

2010-08-03 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Hi Sylvester, I was told to ask you directly for this information as the lapack packages for i386 were built on your computer. Could you please let me know which gfortran version was used to generate /usr/lib/lapack/liblapack.so.3gf.0 in the liblapack3gf package 3.2.1-8 on i386 in the Debian test

Bug#591463: ITP: libcache-memcached-managed-perl -- API for managing cached information with memcached

2010-08-03 Thread Antony Gelberg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Antony Gelberg * Package name: libcache-memcached-managed-perl Version : 0.20 Upstream Author : Elizabeth Mattijsen * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Cache-Memcached-Managed/ * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: Perl

Re: Stepping the clock during boot

2010-08-03 Thread John Hasler
Jaldhar H. Vyas writes: > I haven't really looked into the new dependency-based stuff so this > might be a naive question but wouldn't "X-Starts-After: chrony" in > dovecots init script be a better idea? There is no such thing as far as I know (and I should have written "X-Start-Before": no "s").

Re: Stepping the clock during boot

2010-08-03 Thread John Hasler
Edward Allcutt writes: > You could append +chrony to the $time line in /etc/insserv.conf as a > local fix. You might be able to ship a /etc/insserv.conf.d/chrony that > to that effect but I'm unsure whether that would replace or add to the > existing line. As Peter says, it would add it to the exi

Re: Stepping the clock during boot

2010-08-03 Thread John Hasler
Petter Reinholdtsen writes: > If you are going to do this, it might be a good idea to try to do it > before the syslog collector starts, as most daemons depend on $syslog > and would thus start after the clock is correct. Unfortunately, chrony also wants $syslog. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Stepping the clock during boot

2010-08-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[John Hasler] > As Peter says, it would add it to the existing line. That wouldn't > really help as hwclock is always present and would satisfy the $time > requirements before chrony started. Actually, it would help, because all the parts making up $time need to be satisfied before those dependi

Bug#591494: ITP: bambam -- Keyboard masher game for babies

2010-08-03 Thread Taylor LeMasurier-Wren
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Taylor LeMasurier-Wren" * Package name: bambam Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Spike Burch * URL : https://launchpad.net/bambam * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : Keyboard masher game for ba

Re: Stepping the clock during boot

2010-08-03 Thread John Hasler
Petter Reinholdtsen writes: > Actually, [a chrony file in insserv.conf.d] would help, because all > the parts making up $time need to be satisfied before those depending > on $time will start. Then that solves my problem (should apply to ntp too) if adding a file to insserv.conf.d containing $tim

Re: When the init.d script exist, the service should be operational

2010-08-03 Thread Steve McIntyre
Josef wrote: >In data martedì, 3. di agosto 2010 10:45:41, Petter Reinholdtsen ha scritto: >> If you maintain a package with a service started during boot using a >> init.d script, please make sure your service is operational when the >> init.d script exits. > >There are two disadvantages to this a

Re: When the init.d script exist, the service should be operational

2010-08-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 11:12:21AM +0200, Josef Spillner wrote: > In data martedì, 3. di agosto 2010 10:45:41, Petter Reinholdtsen ha scritto: > > If you maintain a package with a service started during boot using a > > init.d script, please make sure your service is operational when the > > init.d

Re: When the init.d script exits [typo fixed], the service should be operational

2010-08-03 Thread Josef Spillner
Am Dienstag, 3. August 2010, 18:24:09 schrieb Steve Langasek: > ... only between services that have declared a dependency relationship, > which should obviously *not* be started in parallel. In the example given by Petter, dhcpd runtime-depends on pdns through some configuration option. This is n

Re: Stepping the clock during boot

2010-08-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[John Hasler] > No, wait. Chrony depends on things that depend indirectly on $time > (so does ntp, IIRC). Yes, such change need to be done very carefully and in stages, to avoid dependency loops. See #542602 for a discussion on the ntp order relative to $syslog. :) Happy hacking, -- Petter Rei

Bug#591528: ITP: livetribe-jsr223 -- Implementation of JSR 223: Scripting for Java

2010-08-03 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Torsten Werner * Package name: livetribe-jsr223 Version : 2.0.6 Upstream Author : Alan D. Cabrera * URL : http://www.livetribe.org/ * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Java Description : Implementation of JSR

Re: When the init.d script exits [typo fixed], the service should be operational

2010-08-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 07:02:12PM +0200, Josef Spillner wrote: > Am Dienstag, 3. August 2010, 18:24:09 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > ... only between services that have declared a dependency relationship, > > which should obviously *not* be started in parallel. > In the example given by Petter, dhc

Re: Stepping the clock during boot

2010-08-03 Thread John Hasler
Petter Reinholdtsen writes: > Yes, such change need to be done very carefully and in stages, to > avoid dependency loops. See #542602 for a discussion on the ntp order > relative to $syslog. After some research I'm tending to think that many (if not most) of the scripts that require $time, should

Re: Stepping the clock during boot

2010-08-03 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > After some research I'm tending to think that many (if not most) of > the scripts that require $time, shouldn't (or at least should only > require hwclockfirst). I also don't see that we still need two > hwclock scripts. BTW hwclockfirst.sh and hwclock.sh add about a 1.5 second delay.

mass bug filing: packages not installable on any architecture

2010-08-03 Thread Ralf Treinen
Hi, I started to file bugs against packages that are not installable on any architecture. There were only a handful of them in testing, but now I am turning to unstable and that now more looks like a mass bug filing. So I reckoned I'd better ask here whether that would be OK. The source is the d

Re: mass bug filing: packages not installable on any architecture

2010-08-03 Thread Daniel E. Markle
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 01:50:55AM +0200, Ralf Treinen wrote: > I started to file bugs against packages that are not installable on any I am working on xtrkcad (on your list) at Debconf now. It already has a bug filed for this issue: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549039 --

Re: mass bug filing: packages not installable on any architecture

2010-08-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 01:50 +0200, Ralf Treinen wrote: > Hi, > > I started to file bugs against packages that are not installable on any > architecture. There were only a handful of them in testing, but now I am > turning to unstable and that now more looks like a mass bug filing. So > I reckoned