Re: Fixing the Gobject Introspection mess

2009-09-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 25, Julien Cristau wrote: > Doesn't this break co-installability of libfoo2.0-X and libfoo2.0-Y, if > both install Foo-2.0.gir? And what about multiarch? -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Auto Backporting (Was: Backports of scientific packages)

2009-09-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 09:24:46AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: > Sounds like you think it's a good idea. Why not do it and let us know > how you get on? One point for you beeing the first raising this killer argument. ;-) Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de Klarmachen zum Ändern! -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Auto Backporting (Was: Backports of scientific packages)

2009-09-26 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Andreas Tille said: > So in short: we should choose the "well-defined" subset of packages > which are candidates for autobackporting according to their feature to > be buildable inside stable and using an control field to mark the > packages that way. Sounds like you

Re: Fixing the Gobject Introspection mess

2009-09-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 26 septembre 2009 à 07:56 +0200, Sebastian Dröge a écrit : > Am Freitag, den 25.09.2009, 13:32 +0200 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > > 1. Package layout > > > > GObject-introspection packages provide introspection data > > in /usr/share/gir-1.0/Foo-X.Y.gir, and the > > optional /usr/lib/gir

GObject introspection mini-policy, take 2

2009-09-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
After an insightful discussion with Sebastian, and taking into account other suggestions from the list, here is a new proposal. 1. Directory layout GObject-introspection data is generally provided in two formats: * XML format in /usr/share/gir-1.0/Foo-X.Y.gir * binary format in /u

Bug#548450: ITP: librrdtool-oo-perl -- Object-oriented perl interface to RRDTool

2009-09-26 Thread fabien
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: fabien * Package name: librrdtool-oo-perl Version : 0.25 Upstream Author : Mike Schilli * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~mschilli/RRDTool-OO-0.25/ * License : (PERL) Programming Lang: (Perl) Description : Object-

Re: Auto Backporting (Was: Backports of scientific packages)

2009-09-26 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > Shouldn't checking if Build-Depends are satisfiable in stable be enough? > > And if it doesn't build that way, I'd say there's a bug in the package > > anyways, because it should bump some build dependencies. > > build-deps are not necessarily runtime

Re: Taiwan Mini-DebConf to visit world's tallest building, Google 2009.09.28

2009-09-26 Thread pingooo
Hi, Please give me a contact phone number in case I need to find you on Monday. Please send me the confirmed list of names by Sunday evening, too. Thanks, Ping 2009/9/18 : > We have added a day trip to the Taiwan Mini-DebConf program, to visit > the Google Corporation, in Taipei 101, the world

DEP-3 update: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, following the recent comments on DEP-3 concerning its usage with git format-patch I modified it (the patch is below). The resulting version is on http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/. Feel free to comment if you see further improvements. --- a/web/deps/dep3.mdwn +++ b/web/deps/dep3.mdwn @@ -3,

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 7 Sep 2009, Gabor Gombas wrote: > > The original announcement said that Fedora is already using upstart. > > AFAIK Fedora is also commited to using SELinux. Do they use a similar > > patch? Can they help convincing upstream? > > In terms of the

Re: Fixing the Gobject Introspection mess

2009-09-26 Thread Sebastian Dröge
Am Samstag, den 26.09.2009, 11:54 +0200 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > Le samedi 26 septembre 2009 à 07:56 +0200, Sebastian Dröge a écrit : > > Am Freitag, den 25.09.2009, 13:32 +0200 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > > > 1. Package layout > > > > > > GObject-introspection packages provide introspection d

Re: Fixing the Gobject Introspection mess

2009-09-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 26 septembre 2009 à 13:12 +0200, Sebastian Dröge a écrit : > > There is no “build time” for interpreters. What do you mean exactly? > > Interpreters should use the typelib file and not the GIR file. The GIR > file is meant for generating bindings (like the current Python/C++/C# > bindin

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-26 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009, Gabor Gombas wrote: > The original announcement said that Fedora is already using upstart. > AFAIK Fedora is also commited to using SELinux. Do they use a similar > patch? Can they help convincing upstream? Sorry for the delay in responding. In terms of the upstream SE Linux

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread George Danchev
> George Danchev writes: > > > So, the question being: from where to start documenting and sorting > > these out: policy, dpkg/doc/, devref, wiki, blogs ;-), somewhere else. > > Standardized fields should be documented in Policy. Patches and > contributions are definitely welcome. (And person

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread Russ Allbery
George Danchev writes: > Okay, that sounds reasonable, provided all non-user-defined fields are > standard, or otherwise illegal. Another standard field (i.e. non-X[BSC] > ) I found is `Bugs'; seems they are hinting someone or something like > BTS or LP, though I'm not exactly sure if it is good

Re: DEP-3 update: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-26 Thread Paul Wise
Hmm, in the examples, I would expect that the Origin/Bug/Bug-Debian fields would be before the Subject field. If they aren't then I would have thought they were part of the long description. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.de

Re: GObject introspection mini-policy, take 2

2009-09-26 Thread Paul Wise
2009/9/26 Josselin Mouette : > 1. Directory layout > > GObject-introspection data is generally provided in two formats: >      * XML format in /usr/share/gir-1.0/Foo-X.Y.gir >      * binary format in /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/Foo-X.Y.typelib ... > 6. Example > > Suppose that libfoo-2.0 is an API b

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bugs is sort of an interesting case since there's no reason to ever > include it in a Debian package, but it's part of the package format and > people making packages for non-Debian distributions should be aware of > it.  reportbug honors it

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Wise writes: > Sounds like it should be something documented in policy. > lintian already complains about it: > http://lintian.debian.org/tags/redundant-bugs-field.html > I'm wondering why it is overriden by dpkg, any ideas? > dpkg also overrides the Origin field, which is also strange.

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread George Danchev
> George Danchev writes: > > > Okay, that sounds reasonable, provided all non-user-defined fields are > > standard, or otherwise illegal. Another standard field (i.e. non-X[BSC] > > ) I found is `Bugs'; seems they are hinting someone or something like > > BTS or LP, though I'm not exactly sure if

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread Russ Allbery
George Danchev writes: > Candidates for policy so far: > http://people.debian.org/~danchev/survey/sorted/4policy > (Multi-Arch field added) Oh, good, that's less than I thought there would be. We should probably add Origin as well. > The rest are user-defined fields (X[SBC]) which are possible

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread George Danchev
> George Danchev writes: > > > Candidates for policy so far: > > http://people.debian.org/~danchev/survey/sorted/4policy > > (Multi-Arch field added) > > Oh, good, that's less than I thought there would be. IMO, standardized fields (non-XBSC) are quite well documented in policy, and I didn't

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread Russ Allbery
George Danchev writes: >> Autobuild should probably go into Policy. It's used for non-free >> packages to indicate that it's legal for the buildds to build the >> packages. >> >> Original-Maintainer is odd -- Ubuntu uses that for packages imported >> and modified in Ubuntu, but I'm not sure wha

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread George Danchev
> George Danchev writes: > > >> Autobuild should probably go into Policy. It's used for non-free > >> packages to indicate that it's legal for the buildds to build the > >> packages. > >> > >> Original-Maintainer is odd -- Ubuntu uses that for packages imported > >> and modified in Ubuntu, but