Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-05-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 12 May 2006 01:10:17 +0200, Eugen Paiuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'd add localepurge - witch save my >25 % disk space on 6-700 mb >installation. Localepurge is a bad hack which tries to compensate for a shortcoming in dpkg, one that I have been waiting to be fixed since I started using

Re: bits from the release team

2006-05-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 5 May 2006 18:56:21 +0200, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that would obviously mean two signatures per package (but I don't > think that's that much work) Considered that we are currently waiting since months (half a year?) for a security feature that used to work and has b

Re: Intent to hijack Bacula

2006-05-13 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
Roberto Lumbreras wrote: Hey, again, don't be so rude... Being harsh is not the same as being rude. some of those serious policy violations are things like mistakes erasing logfiles and editing conffiles that couldn't be done in another way. Are you serious? There's no excuse, ever, for e

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:49:26PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: >> On the other hand, if we continue that thought process we could end up >> with all headers and libraries in /usr/share/, which is absurd. > > Why? This is exactly what's beautiful, especially

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Olaf van der Spek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 5/10/06, Matt Taggart and others <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> For a couple years now a few of us have been talking about an idea called >> "multiarch". This is a way to seamlessly allow support for multiple different >> binary targets on the sa

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Joe Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Daniel Ruoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Em Qui, 2006-05-11 às 09:56 +0200, Gabor Gombas escreveu: >>> On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 03:33:45PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: >>> > Why would that not fly? >>> > Both version

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > There is yet another issue with the $arch portion of the canonical system > name: chips which are upgrades of other chips. For instance, Fedora will > give you 'i686', while Debian will give you 'i486'. This will (and should) > result in two different directories -- d

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think we need a canonical ABI-OS (or ABI-KERNEL-OS ?) table which > provides mappings for multiarch-sensitive programs. I have dpkg-multiarch for that and other things like cflags, ldflags, libdir and the like. dpkg-multiarch is used just like dpkg-ar

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-13 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 5/13/06, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That would be total insanity. Just think about the number of scripts with "#!/usr/bin/python" in it that would have to be changed. And how Shouldn't such hard-coded paths be avoided in the long term (anyway)? would you even change th

Re: python 2.4?

2006-05-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 12 May 2006, Andreas Barth wrote: > > How about, right now, just a statement "this is what the issues are". > > Or even, "this [URL here] is the mailing list post where the issues > > are outlined." > > I forgot about them. So, I need to collect them again. Even release > managers don't ha

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Sam 13 Mai 2006 08:45, Adrian von Bidder a écrit : > On Wednesday 10 May 2006 16:21, Daniel Schepler wrote: > > Le Mardi 09 Mai 2006 22:49, Bill Allombert a écrit : > > > Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers > > > > ... > > > > > libkcal2b > > > libkdepim1a > > > > It looks like these two have circula

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-05-13 Thread Bill Allombert
Hello Debian people, I am proposing a new version of the new Debian menu structure proposal incorporating changes that have been proposed. Here the change from the previous draft: - change 'HAM Radio' to 'Amateur Radio'. - revert change 'Educational' -> 'Education'. - add 'Electronics' in place

Re: Testing security archive move

2006-05-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Neil McGovern wrote: > --- > Debian Testing Security Team May 12th, 2006 > secure-testing-team@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ > ---

Re: bits from the release team

2006-05-13 Thread Michael Vogt
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 11:05:03AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Le Ven 5 Mai 2006 18:41, Florian Weimer a écrit : [..] > Except that apt-get fails if any of the signatures are unknown or > expired. So you still need both keys and not just one

getifaddr

2006-05-13 Thread ed
I wrote a network byte monitor in BSD, thinking that it would port directly to GNU with a few minor changes. However, I've found that the if_addr structure does not contain a link to the if_data struct on GNU stdlib. What function calls should I make to get this similar data in GNU land? -- Rega

Re: gcc 4.1 or not

2006-05-13 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Qui, 2006-05-11 às 15:05 -0300, Gustavo Franco escreveu: > by mail, really ? Well, that's weird. Why we've usertags[0] too ? > > [0] = http://wiki.debian.org/bugs.debian.org/usertags Usertags are not simply for "blocking" relations tagging. Usertags are supposed to be a way for users to do wh

using /usr/bin/nologin instead of /bin/false in adduser?

2006-05-13 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, in login 4.0.13, /usr/bin/nologin has appeared which seems to be a good default choice for accounts that do not allow shell login. I am now wondering whether (and when) I should change adduser to use /usr/bin/nologin instead of /bin/false in the default case of disabled login. Are we suffici

Re: using /usr/bin/nologin instead of /bin/false in adduser?

2006-05-13 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060513 16:34]: > in login 4.0.13, /usr/bin/nologin has appeared which seems to be a > good default choice for accounts that do not allow shell login. /bin/false and /bin/true have the advantage of relatively well-defined meanings (no login vs. no shell login). So

Re: using /usr/bin/nologin instead of /bin/false in adduser?

2006-05-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060513 16:34]: > >>in login 4.0.13, /usr/bin/nologin has appeared which seems to be a >>good default choice for accounts that do not allow shell login. > > > /bin/false and /bin/true have the advantage of relatively well-defined > meani

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-13 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
I just felt like interjecting after having been reading up on this tread. The whole multiarch situation is exactly why my workstation was re-installed with FC5's x86_64 from the old Debian amd64 distro. Someday when Debian has multiarch I'll switch it back but for now all my 64 bit machines

Re: using /usr/bin/nologin instead of /bin/false in adduser?

2006-05-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:17:02PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Out of curiousity, what happens when someone tries to login and /usr is > unavailable? If the shell is set to something in /bin, it will still be > used. What is the default action when the user's shell is not available? foo:x

cleaning up lib*-dev packages?

2006-05-13 Thread Eric Cooper
I use deborphan to get rid of unneeded packages on my system. But I have various lib*-dev packages installed to satisfy the build-dependencies of packages that I maintain or otherwise build from source. Deborphan reports these as orphaned, but I (usually) still need them. (When the build-dependen

Re: using /usr/bin/nologin instead of /bin/false in adduser?

2006-05-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Roberto C. Sanchez: > Out of curiousity, what happens when someone tries to login and /usr is > unavailable? If the shell is set to something in /bin, it will still be > used. What is the default action when the user's shell is not available? It's also interesting how this interacts with non-

Bug#367112: ITP: advancecomp -- collection of recompression utilities

2006-05-13 Thread Piotr Ozarowski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Piotr Ozarowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: advancecomp Version : 1.15 Upstream Author : Andrea Mazzoleni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL, LGPL Programming Lang: C,

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-13 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit "Olaf van der Spek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That would be total insanity. Just think about the number of scripts >> with "#!/usr/bin/python" in it that would have to be changed. And how > Shouldn't such hard-coded paths be avoided in the l

Bug#367116: ITP: airport-utils -- configuration and management utilities for the Apple AirPort wireless base stations

2006-05-13 Thread Julien BLACHE
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: airport-utils Version : undecided yet Upstream Author : Jon Sevy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://edge.cs.drexel.edu/GICL/people/sevy/airport/index.html * License : GPL

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-13 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 10:54:57PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > The Linux kernel requires a full path for #! scripts. This makes > sense if one considers a #! program to be something that should have > predictable behavior no matter what the user happens to have in his > $PATH. The standard id

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-13 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
Henning Makholm wrote: In multiarch, the right approach to this particular problem is to arrange for /usr/bin/python to be a symlink to /usr/bin/$arch/python with $arch chosen (somehow) appropriately for a default python interpreter. Apart from the fact that no multiarch proposals have tried t