Re: Keysigning without physically meeting ... thoughts?

2005-06-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:49:51AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:17:21PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > What are we setting out to achieve? > > > > - To verify that the person so identified controls a specific email address > What does 'control' mean here? Given t

Re: namespace conflict != package Conflict?

2005-06-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:11:16AM -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > rename /usr/bin/git to /usr/bin/cogito-git or whatever. It is not that hard. > > That's true Adam: renaming a file is not hard... But in this case it > has terrible consequences. > >

Re: Bug#312669: /sbin/ifconfig: Add ifconfig to user path

2005-06-12 Thread Hasso Tepper
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:24:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > And anyway ifconfig is deprecated, > > While I don't have a very strong opinion on this matter either way, I > feel I should point out that > a) ifconfig is an application that exists not only on Linux, but

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-12 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Joey Hess [Thu, Jun 09 2005, 07:58:11PM]: > Andreas Gredler wrote: > > Is there a way to handle this? Could a kernel be patched to read data > > from multiple floppy disks? I know that this question sounds a little > > bit stupid, but floppies still seem to be the most reliable way to b

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > #include > * Joey Hess [Thu, Jun 09 2005, 07:58:11PM]: >> Andreas Gredler wrote: >> > Is there a way to handle this? Could a kernel be patched to read data >> > from multiple floppy disks? I know that this question sounds a little >> > bit stupid, but fl

Re: Bug#312669: /sbin/ifconfig: Add ifconfig to user path

2005-06-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hasso Tepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:24:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> > And anyway ifconfig is deprecated, >> >> While I don't have a very strong opinion on this matter either way, I >> feel I should point out that >> a) ifconfig is

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-12 Thread Cesar Martinez Izquierdo
El Domingo 12 Junio 2005 01:24, Russell Coker escribió: > On Tuesday 07 June 2005 19:31, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > What about switching from getty to mingetty? Is there any reason to use > > getty by default? > > Is there any reason to change? Well, I'm not very

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-12 Thread Eduard Bloch
Moin Goswin! Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Sonntag, den 12. Juni 2005: > Why would it have to be before the kernel? Actualy all floppies should Because you can do it before the kernel needs to be running (including the whole userspace overhead needed to prompt the user to insert the usb floppy,

Bug#313183: RFA: eterm-themes -- Themes for Eterm, the Enlightened Terminal Emulator

2005-06-12 Thread Bill Allombert
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Dear developers, I don't use Eterm anymore, so I don't have much use of eterm-themes. It is a very low maintainance package, though. The package description is: This package contains themes for Eterm, the Enlightened Terminal Emulator, from www.eterm.org. Please

Bug#313185: ITP: evolution-sharp -- .NET binding for Evolution

2005-06-12 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: evolution-sharp Version : 0.6 Upstream Author : Mike Kestner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/evolution-sharp/ * License : GPL

Re: Translation of init scripts

2005-06-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Lalo and others. I have found in the Debian lists archieve the above message Am 1999-07-12 18:11:11, schrieb Lalo Martins: > This weekend I sat over gettext thinking of translated > initscript messages. This is a proposal for some practical - END OF REPLYED MESSAG

Re: Translation of init scripts

2005-06-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 12, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any attempts to do it ? > It would be nice if it can be done. Start looking at lsb-base. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Why apt-get is not a proper software search engine (was Re: And now for something completely different... etch!)

2005-06-12 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Christian Aichinger] > The reverse dependency count just isn't a very good metric for "is an > end-user package". I think it's also a job for debtags or something > like it, to tell us what is an end-user package and what isn't. Or popularity-contest could be enhanced to note auto-installed pack

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Brian May | klibc? Not yet in Debian, is there any reason for this? It's just been ITP-ed; http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=312563 -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-12 Thread Cameron Patrick
Eduard Bloch wrote: > > Why would it have to be before the kernel? Actualy all floppies should > > Because you can do it before the kernel needs to be running (including > the whole userspace overhead needed to prompt the user to insert the usb > floppy, for example, and work with it). FWIW, the

Re: dhcp-client package in sarge

2005-06-12 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 12:01:22AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 09:00:28 +0200, Nicolas Kreft wrote: > > Is it for a special reason that the default dhcp-client > > in sarge is ancient (version 2.0pl5)? > > > Some years ago when the release of sarge was supposed to be imminent

Re: dhcp-client package in sarge

2005-06-12 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 08:56:07AM +0200, Nicolas Kreft wrote: > Hi List! > > > Is it for a special reason that the default dhcp-client > in sarge is ancient (version 2.0pl5)? > I've been told that the reason debian-installer uses dhcp-client instead of dhcp3-client is because of the size of th

Re: Translation of init scripts

2005-06-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Jun 12, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are there any attempts to do it ? > > It would be nice if it can be done. > Start looking at lsb-base. This probably fits a proposed BOF at Debconf, by the way, proposed by Henrique de Moraes

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-12 Thread Russell Coker
On Sunday 12 June 2005 19:54, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El Domingo 12 Junio 2005 01:24, Russell Coker escribió: > > wrote: > > > What about switching from getty to mingetty? Is there any reason to use > > > getty by default? > > > > Is there any reason to change? > > Th

Re: Upgrading to Debian sarge

2005-06-12 Thread Brian May
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache show libc6 | grep MD5sum MD5sum: Brian> ab0895ee6d8d2cf3b6906eb5228e5c25 Brian> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# md5sum Brian> /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.2.ds1-20_powerpc.deb Brian> 6930111

co-maintainers sought

2005-06-12 Thread martin f krafft
OB: cross-posted; please reply privately (Reply-To set). I am looking for co-maintainers for the following of my packages. Most of these packages are also up for adoption in case someone wants to take them over. If interested, please talk to me and I will assess whether I'd bestow ownership to you

Re: co-maintainers sought

2005-06-12 Thread Christoph Hellwig
> - [RFA] bcm4400-source - module source for Broadcom's bcm4400 ethernet > driver > : http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/bcm4400-source.html What problems do you see with the in-kernel b44 driver that you still need bcm4400? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "u

future of bcm4400-source (was: co-maintainers sought)

2005-06-12 Thread martin f krafft
(taking this to debian-devel) also sprach Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.12.1501 +0200]: > > - [RFA] bcm4400-source - module source for Broadcom's bcm4400 > > ethernet driver > > : http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/bcm4400-source.html > > What problems do you see with the in-k

Re: Processed: wnpp

2005-06-12 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 06:03:55AM -0700, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > retitle 182650 RFP: porn-get -- A pornographic package management system. > Bug#182650: RFP: porn-get - A pornographic package management system. > Changed Bug title. > I

Re: Bug#312897: ITP: texlive -- The TeXlive system packaged for debian

2005-06-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 10 juin 2005 à 19:15 +0200, Norbert Preining a écrit : > On Fre, 10 Jun 2005, Christoph Berg wrote: > > > * Package name: texlive > > > Description : The TeXlive system packaged for debian > > > > The website looks like that's a "live" tex CD. What's the difference > > to a n

Re: dhcp-client package in sarge

2005-06-12 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 10:19:03PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > FWIW, I've recently become a co-maintainer, and now the Sarge has released, > I'm planning on bringing dhcp3 up to date with the latest upstream and > having a good bash at all the bugs. Would you consider to incorporate LDAP patch

Re: co-maintainers sought

2005-06-12 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 02:57:38PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > - ipcalc - Parameter calculator for IPv4 addresses > : http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ipcalc.html I would be interested in adoptioning or co-maintaining this package, since I'm using it quite often. So please decide whether

Re: Why apt-get is not a proper software search engine

2005-06-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Or popularity-contest could be enhanced to note auto-installed > packages. Now that aptitude is gaining traction (particularly in > command-line mode - I guess people have been using it in full-screen > mode for awhile), the aptitude auto-install flag

Re: co-maintainers sought

2005-06-12 Thread Drasko Draskovic
I am interested in maintaining gjay. I never maintanined any package, so I will need some help, but I am very willing to learn (and contribute). Best regards, Drasko On 6/12/05, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OB: cross-posted; please reply privately (Reply-To set). > > I am looking

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-12 Thread Andreas Gredler
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 02:17:08PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2005 09:14, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some older BIOSes don't allow booting from CD-ROM, let alone netbooting or > > It's easy to solve the problem of a BIOS that doesn't support booting from > CD-RO

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-12 Thread Andreas Gredler
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 12:52:58AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 12, Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Why not use a USB flash device for booting? All the recent machines I've > > tried have booted from a 64M USB device which gives plenty of space for > > such > > things. O

Let's remove octave2.0?

2005-06-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
In #232777, Dirk Eddelbuettel and I had a discussion about octave2.0. Dirk wrote: > We should consider removing octave2.0 as well. It is old code [1], and > upstream decided years ago to not port this code branch, but to concentrate > on octave2.1 instead -- and octave2.1 is where all development

Re: Let's remove octave2.0?

2005-06-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-12 21:13]: > Do you think it should be removed now? http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/05/msg00089.html lists some other octave related packages that should probably be removed. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Help with the c2man to doxygen migration

2005-06-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
In http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2003/10/msg00019.html Manoj Srivastava pointed out that, "c2man has been dead upstream for years (which was, so far, not a problem), and does not work with modern C/C++ programs -- which _is_ a problem. The functionality has been superseded with packages li

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-12 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 12 June 2005 14:05, Scott James Remnant wrote: > The Wig & Pen ("Format: 2.0") source format is an evolutionary (rather > than revolutionary) change to the current source package format. > Brendan O'Dea's work on providing _unpack_ support has been integrated > into dpkg-source. Support

Re: Bug#312897: ITP: texlive -- The TeXlive system packaged for debian

2005-06-12 Thread Norbert Preining
On Son, 12 Jun 2005, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > It is one the one hand a live dvd, but also one of the most complete TeX > > systems. There are several differences between tetex and texlive, > > especially wrt the granularity of packaging. See the discussion on > > tetex-maint ML which I had with

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Andreas Gredler | - Network boot: PXE cards in older HW are as rare as motherboards | booting from USB, IMO. A new PXE-capable networking card costs in the range of 20€ and should work on most machines. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is

Re: Let's remove octave2.0?

2005-06-12 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 12 June 2005 at 21:13, Martin Michlmayr wrote: | In #232777, Dirk Eddelbuettel and I had a discussion about octave2.0. | | Dirk wrote: | > We should consider removing octave2.0 as well. It is old code [1], and | > upstream decided years ago to not port this code branch, but to concentrate | >

links to logs in /etc? (/etc/postgresql/7.4/main/log)

2005-06-12 Thread Erik Steffl
why is there a link to logs in /etc? /etc/postgresql/7.4/main/log is a link to /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-7.4-main.log /etc is supposed to be for configuration files that are static, the link to log violates both (yes, it's only a link so it doesn't change but points to a file that

Re: Bug#312669: /sbin/ifconfig: Add ifconfig to user path

2005-06-12 Thread Miles Bader
astronut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree. The type of user who is likely to be using the ifconfig command > on a regular basis is the type of user who probably already has sbin in > their path. (Power user, sysadmin's nonprivleged account, etc.). Yes. The great majority of users don't want

Re: Why apt-get is not a proper software search engine

2005-06-12 Thread Miles Bader
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm still using apt-get rather than aptitude because apt-get seems subtly > but noticably faster. But I *am* using debfoster, which lets you get at > some similar information. Maybe popularity-contest should pay attention > to that as well? Yeah, aptitu

Re: Why apt-get is not a proper software search engine

2005-06-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At a minimum, even if you never use the nice GUI, the automatic tracking > of packages that can be deleted automatically when nobody depends on > them is worth it. It seems like this functionality really ought to be > in the libraries, not aptitude. Yeah

Re: Why apt-get is not a proper software search engine

2005-06-12 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20050612T203113-0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > (For that matter, the dpkg delay on "Reading database" is kind of annoying > too. Hm. Good project for someone.) I've noticed that dpkg --clear-avail && dpkg --forget-old-unavail speeds dpkg up (very much so if the machine is memory-starved). -- A

Re: dhcp-client package in sarge

2005-06-12 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 04:23:46PM +0200, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 10:19:03PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > > FWIW, I've recently become a co-maintainer, and now the Sarge has released, > > I'm planning on bringing dhcp3 up to date with the latest upstream and > > having a