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On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:49:34PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:12:47PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> >
> > > * Package name: wanna-build
> >
> > If you haven't already, you might like to pick up the manpages I wrote
> > from here: http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/bu
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:54:17PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
> >
> > Thanks. I will (I had already taken wanna-build.1) and will modify them
> > accordingly to the additions i have already made.
> >
> > Thanks again!
>
> If you would like to use alioth as infrastructure for developmen
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 10:31:47PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 08:08:18PM -0400, sean finney wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 11:47:26PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > Therefore, all GPL'd programs will have to go to non-free.
> >
> > there's nothing that prevents us f
Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd also say that for a user, access to documentation is an unavoidable
> requirement for using the software (e.g. for most non-trivial uses it
> will be a pain to work with a gcc without any documentation of the
> available options - and even Debian dev
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 02:22:11PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'd also say that for a user, access to documentation is an unavoidable
> > requirement for using the software (e.g. for most non-trivial uses it
> > will be a pain to work with a gcc
Ich werde ab 12.04.2005 nicht im Büro sein. Ich kehre zurück am
28.04.2005.
Ich werde Ihre Nachricht nach meiner Rückkehr beantworten.
I respond to your messages, when I'm back in the office.
Sefar - 175 years of precision mesh experience
> > Adrian, you're deliberately wasting the project's time with a very old,
> > eternity-since-debunked "argument". That's known as "trolling". Unless
> > you have something of value to say, go away.
> If you call me a "troll", please tell me where this is documented.
http://lists.debian.org/deb
> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Adrian> On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 02:22:11PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
[...]
>> The fact that we can remove the documentation and still distribute
>> the software dem
Hello Jesus,
* Jesus Climent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2005-04-15 13:24 +0200]:
> I have checked already (pointed by Guillem Jover) and we were not able to
> find
> the CVS/SVN repository where you commit.
>
> That is why I started using some internal repo and thought about commiting
> the
> c
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:12:39PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Martin Samuelsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.13.1938 +0200]:
> > Is there a guide somewhere on how to create kernel-patch packages?
>
> Nope, until I find the time... the dh-kpatches package makes it
> rather easy tho
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Hi,
does anyone knows a solution to let packages FTBFS on
buildd's which architecure are not supported by the
software?
regards nico
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On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 06:46:41PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Matthew Garrett writes:
> > In general, the law doesn't allow us to modify the license attached to a
> > piece of software.
>
> That has nothing to do with creating a derivative of a license for use
> elsewhere.
You are allowed to do
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 10:31:47PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> Er, no. The GPL can only be modified if the preamble is removed, which
> means the preamble is an invariant section.
No, it's not. An invariant section, as defined by the GFDL, *cannot be
removed*. That's what's so ugly about it --
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 03:44:04PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> The question remains whether a gcc or MySQL without documentation is of
> any practical value.
There are MySQL documentation packages? Or at least, there have been?
Cool. Didn't know that. Then again, I've only been using MySQL sinc
> does anyone knows a solution to let packages FTBFS on
> buildd's which architecure are not supported by the
> software?
If the arch is not supported by the package, why is it in the packages
Architecture: line to begin with?
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On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:04:34PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> Hi,
> does anyone knows a solution to let packages FTBFS on
> buildd's which architecure are not supported by the
> software?
You want to read Policy. Really.
(specifically, section 5.6.7)
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On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 08:48:15PM +0100, David Pashley wrote:
> I suspect most games entertain the user for more than three seconds.
It would depend on the combination of the user and the game. I know
games that don't even entertain me for one second, let alone three.
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Hi All,
I'm using a slightly modified Debian kernel along with
PXELinux to boot a machine over the network.
My kernel's memory footprint is quite large (400 megs)
because it pre-allocates memory for some processes (in
the interest of speedier process execution).
My ramdisk size is about 500 me
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 11:59:52PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:12:31AM -0400, Patrick A. Ouellette wrote:
> >...
> > The progression I see is:
> >
> > unstable -> testing -> candidate -> stable
> >
> > The existing rules for promotion from unstable to testing continu
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also sprach Martin Samuelsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.15.1822 +0200]:
> If anyone read all the way down here, were do we go from here? Should we
> have this patch included in debian? Why could maintain it in that case?
> I am currently not a DD, but if someone would be willing to sponsor me I
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 05:30:15PM +0200, Jacobo Tarrio wrote:
> > > Adrian, you're deliberately wasting the project's time with a very old,
> > > eternity-since-debunked "argument". That's known as "trolling". Unless
> > > you have something of value to say, go away.
> > If you call me a "troll"
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:26:30PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 06:46:41PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > Matthew Garrett writes:
> > > In general, the law doesn't allow us to modify the license attached to a
> > > piece of software.
> >
> > That has nothing to do with cr
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:33:00PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 03:44:04PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > The question remains whether a gcc or MySQL without documentation is of
> > any practical value.
>
> There are MySQL documentation packages? Or at least, there have
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:58:52AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote:
>...
> In fact, I've never looked at the gcc documentation other than to look
> up machine-specific options and optimization flags. It's easy to use
> gcc without the documentation.
Simple usage might work, but as soon as you reach any
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:05:42AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> If you call people who don't know about it a troll you should ensure
> that it's documented at the places where you'd expect to read it.
I call anyone who starts a thread on debian-devel with the subject:
"All GPL'ed programs have
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 07:17:08PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:05:42AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > If you call people who don't know about it a troll you should ensure
> > that it's documented at the places where you'd expect to read it.
>
> I call anyone who starts
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On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 07:17:08PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:05:42AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > If you call people who don't know about it a troll you should ensure
> > that it's documented at the places where you'd expect to read it.
>
> I call anyone who starts
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 02:51:32AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> I have to admit that the subject of my email lacked the question mark
> that was at the end of the email and that should have been at the end of
> the Subject, too. Is one missing question mark enough for being
> publically called a
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 10:47:23AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> Hey! In this age of extreme interpretations of licenses, why should the
> GPL be exempt from thorough review?
I honestly can't tell if you're being serious. :) I do think the GPL
should be subject to review, even though as a pract
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 09:07:58AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:18:45AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:33:00PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > Cool. Didn't know that. Then again, I've only been using MySQL since a
> > > few years, so maybe
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:22:48PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 02:51:32AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>...
> > Please tell me where the document is I should have found that explains
> > Debian's position on this issue and then you have my publically stated
> > apology for
[Can we *PLEASE* move this conversation to an appropriate list, like
-project? MFT: set appropriately, and Cc:'ed for good measure.]
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 09:07:58AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > But why can people only use documentation if it's in De
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Is this wanted?
This may not be wanted, but what is your alternative?
Greetings
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On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 03:54:45AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> Currently, this works and this documentation is shipped with gcc. But
> post-sarge this documentation will move to non-free.
And that's fine. If you nee
Patrick A. Ouellette wrote:
>The progression I see is:
>
>unstable -> testing -> candidate -> stable
>
>
Unfortunately this totally changes the purpose of "stable". Stable is
there not to provide bug free, up-to-date software releases. Stable is
to provide environmental stability. When someone
(Branden, I've BCC'd you on this mail since you're mentioned, as I don't
expect that you follow every thread on -devel. It's a BCC to keep people
from copying you on further mails in the thread and I won't copy you
on it further.)
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 04:17:24AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> Whe
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 04:29:42AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > Is this wanted?
>
> This may not be wanted, but what is your alternative?
Well, it's not that we don't want gcc's documentation to be moved to
non-free; rather, we don't want gcc's doc
En tant que consultant IT, je suis très souvent face à des imprimantes bonnes pour le container à ordures juste parce que le responsable des achats s'est laissé tenter par une cartouche pirate ou de marque différente de celle de l'imprimante.Je suis donc convaincu par expérience que l'usage de ces
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:35:36PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
>...
> > What do you win by moving things to non-free?
>
> You inform people that what they're using is not Free. That's a fundamental
> purpose of non-free: to be able to make some important but non-free pieces
> available to users,
Apologies if I misedited your e-mail. I am not trying to parrot or
straw man what you said. It's just complicated and I am trying to make
my reply readable. If I messed something up, let me know and I'll
correct my error(s).
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I ag
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:15:29PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 04:29:42AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > > Is this wanted?
> >
> > This may not be wanted, but what is your alternative?
>
> Well, it's not that we don't want
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:48:22PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Apologies if I misedited your e-mail. I am not trying to parrot or
> straw man what you said. It's just complicated and I am trying to make
> my reply readable. If I messed something up, let me know and I'll
> correct my error(s).
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 05:54:08AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> Is the effect of what you are doing really in the spirit behind it or
> is it counter-productive?
It's well in the spirit of it. Documentation with political manifestos
bolted on that we're not allowed to touch or remove isn't free,
On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 21:48 -0500, Adam M. wrote:
> Unfortunately this totally changes the purpose of "stable". Stable is
Yes and no. It changes the concept of stable in that stable evolves.
You still have the static release as long as we decide to keep that
version of all the packages in the pa
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