Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 11:44:17PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > One reason for the DFSG's modifiability and source requirements is to
> > preserve our ability to fix things. I see no reason why we shouldn't
> > insist on that for firmware just
On Saturday 26 March 2005 00:49, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > Optional source patching is non-standard in Debian, and
> > > I would like a standard interface to interact with Debian
> > > source.
> >
> > So would I. Which is why I filed #250202
I second suggestion given at #250202 and like
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 12:00:20AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > You don't have that freedom now. Your PC is full of firmware that you
> > don't have source to, probably can't change and probably can't recompile
> > anyway. It's your motherboard
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sure there is. Your motherboard FLASH can almost certainly be
> reprogrammed in the field, as can the FLASH in your video card, hard
> disk, and broadband modem. Probably not your monitor, admittedly.
> Why is it OK for those vendors not to provide you
su, 2005-03-27 kello 09:01 +0200, George Danchev kirjoitti:
> I second suggestion given at #250202 and like to see "unpacked" and "patched"
> targets to hit Policy 4.8.
I hear that Adam Heath (doogie for those on IRC) has been working on a
new source package format that will make tarball-within-t
On Mar 27, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe. But why won't you refute the arguments that are there?
> I don't need to. What we are lacking is not those arguments, but the
> key missing pieces: what freedoms do you want to insist on (as opposed
> to the DFSG)? and why shoul
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> > We should tell users: we are unable to support this hardware, because
> > we don't have the source. Among other things, we are unable to fix
> > security bugs in it.
> We are unable to fix security bugs in hardware with non-modifiable
> firmware and mo
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I hear that Adam Heath (doogie for those on IRC) has been working on a
> new source package format that will make tarball-within-tarball sources
But we will only be able to see it (nevermind USE it) when hell freezes
over, which must be at etch+2 or wha
su, 2005-03-27 kello 07:49 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh kirjoitti:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > I hear that Adam Heath (doogie for those on IRC) has been working on a
> > new source package format that will make tarball-within-tarball sources
>
> But we will only be able
* Daniel Burrows wrote:
> I just uploaded aptitude 0.2.15.9 to Incoming. Most of the changes
> in this version are translation updates, but I also included a
> backport of the apt-secure enhancements that were previously only
> available in experimental (including, as a
> special-freebie-never-befo
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 10:08:48PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> My Problem is, HOW to find the $USER who is connected to a $DISPLAY.
i have a small shell function that does this in a project i'm working on.
this isn't the least hackish way of doing it, but here goes:
get_desktop_owner ()
{
(I already asked you to please stop Cc'ing me on every reply, what else
do I need to do?)
On Mar 27, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We are unable to fix security bugs in hardware with non-modifiable
> > firmware and modifiable but permanently stored firmware too. Should we
> >
On Sunday 27 March 2005 11:25, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> su, 2005-03-27 kello 09:01 +0200, George Danchev kirjoitti:
> > I second suggestion given at #250202 and like to see "unpacked" and
> > "patched" targets to hit Policy 4.8.
>
> I hear that Adam Heath (doogie for those on IRC) has been working o
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 01:39:27PM +0100, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote:
> > | - the release architecture must have a working, tested installer
> > I hope that's obvious why. :)
> As long as FAI or even raw debootstrap counts, I can agree here.
No, debootstrap isn't an installer, and shouldn't be
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 09:30:45PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> File a wishlist bug report. It's not particularly hard to write the
> necessary patches, although not trivial enough for me to do before
> replying to this email.
I have just done it (#301657).
Thanks,
Fabio
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> Owner: Cajus Pollmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> * Package name: php4-kadm5
> Version : 0.2.4
> Upstream Author : Holger Burbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://freshmeat.net/projects/php-kadm5
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 02:15:15PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
> > I strongly disagree with this. There is a need for a set of base
> > packages to work, but it's entirely reasonable to have a release for eg
> > m68k without KDE or other large package sets. It's not as if debian/m68k
> > would be u
I need to talk to you please. I can't stand being without you. I can't get you
and us out of my mind. My webcam is on right now come to my site and talk to
me. I'll be waiting for you.
http://eechm.rehearsechagrin.com/cs3/
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Hello Jeremy,
> It would be nice if the description had some definition of what the
> software does. Video player? Audio player? Without any previous exposure
> to the "Open Cubic Player", I can only assume that it plays... well...
> cubes. :)
Hehe true, actually there is graphics mode where it p
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 03:00:07AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 01:39:27PM +0100, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote:
> > > | - the release architecture must have a working, tested installer
> > > I hope that's obvious why. :)
>
> > As long as FAI or even raw debootstrap count
On Sunday 27 March 2005 04:00 am, Norbert Tretkowski wrote:
> * Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > I just uploaded aptitude 0.2.15.9 to Incoming. Most of the changes
> > in this version are translation updates, but I also included a
> > backport of the apt-secure enhancements that were previously only
> > a
Am 2005-03-26 15:07:37, schrieb Josselin Mouette:
> Le vendredi 25 mars 2005 à 22:08 +0100, Michelle Konzack a écrit :
> > Hello *,
> >
> > curently I am coding a tool which run from cron (as root) periodicly
> > and if a $USER is loged into X it shows Messages.
> >
> > My Problem is, HOW to find
Am 2005-03-27 07:31:09, schrieb sean finney:
> get_desktop_owner ()
> {
> owner_display=$1;
> w | awk '{print $1" "$2}' | grep "$owner_display$" | awk '{print $1}'
> }
>
> example:
>
> copelandia[~]07:29:50$ get_desktop_owner :0
> seanius
>
> i invite someone to invent a better wa
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:04:24 +0200, Michelle Konzack
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The test I must do, should work under WOODY and higher Releases.
You should ask user-related questions on a user-related mailing list.
Greetings
Marc
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Am 2005-03-27 20:12:37, schrieb Marc Haber:
> You should ask user-related questions on a user-related mailing list.
I have asked here because I have already
gotten unuseful $USER answers.
I need a qualified REAL solution.
> Greetings
> Marc
Greetings
Michelle
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* Michelle Konzack:
> curently I am coding a tool which run from cron (as root) periodicly
> and if a $USER is loged into X it shows Messages.
>
> My Problem is, HOW to find the $USER who is connected to a $DISPLAY.
$USER should start a program that connects to some daemon, from which
it receives
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 03:00:07AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 01:39:27PM +0100, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote:
> > > | - the release architecture must have a working, tested installer
> > > I hope that's obvious why. :)
>
> > As long as FAI or even raw debootstrap count
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 06:55:26PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Thomas Hood wrote:
> > Should Debian initscripts use lsb init-functions?
>
> Where can we find these functions?
Judging from the changelog excerpt in the initial post to this thread,
you can find them in lsb-base version 2.0-6 in unst
sean finney wrote:
i invite someone to invent a better way, i'd like to hear it :)
Rather than invoke awk twice, just use awk for everything (-:
(I used $DISPLAY for testing)
w | awk "\$3 ~ /$DISPLAY/ {print \$1; exit 0}"
Note the escaped '$'s.
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> Dear Debian developers,
>
> I would like to consult the developer community on the following issue.
>
> Here is the story: Debian packages including daemons may be a problem for
> people installing them via chroot, due to t
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Hi,
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 04:18:48 +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Good. ^_^ I hope that helps.
It does. I still don't understand the concept fully, and my apt still
doesn't do what I want it to, but I have tried to write what I know
down in the Debian Wiki on http://wiki.debi
Hi Jaldhar,
it's maybe a bit late on this. Nevertheless I would like to contribute.
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Prospective maintainers should be proficient in perl as that is the
> language webmin/usermin is written in. They should also have the
> patience to deal with novi
Am 2005-03-27 20:38:29, schrieb Florian Weimer:
> $USER should start a program that connects to some daemon, from which
> it receives the messages. Anything else is just a gross hack,
I know, but HOW to get $USER to start the program ?
> insecure and likely to break in terminal server environme
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:23:29 +0200, Michelle Konzack
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Am 2005-03-27 20:12:37, schrieb Marc Haber:
>> You should ask user-related questions on a user-related mailing list.
>
>I have asked here because I have already
>gotten unuseful $USER answers.
>
>I need a qualified REA
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Martin Mewes wrote:
> I am an Webmin-"Official" and am co-ordinating the translators of this
> software. If you need any help in packaging this software I would
> gladly join the team as a sub-maintainer.
>
> In the end I do need advice in packaging, but I do have experience w
Hi,
My plan is to have a source-repository of every single Debian package.
I consider it to be interesting in several ways including that of avoiding
symbol conflicts with shared library package, and finding out
what might be a scalable way to maintain such a large chunk of source code.
> > >
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 08:04:24PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
|| Am 2005-03-26 15:07:37, schrieb Josselin Mouette:
|| > 15:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ > who
|| > joss :0 Mar 26 14:42
|| > joss pts/0Mar 26 14:42 (:0.0)
|| > joss pts/1Mar 26 14:42 (:0.0)
||
On Monday 28 March 2005 01:33, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> Hi,
Hello,
> My plan is to have a source-repository of every single Debian package.
> I consider it to be interesting in several ways including that of avoiding
> symbol conflicts with shared library package, and finding out
> what might be a
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 10:14:03PM +0200, Vincent Zweije wrote:
> As I understand it, the program that puts these entries into the whois
> database is called sessreg. Have a look at it; it should be part of
> the X startup/shutdown script, at least for xdm.
or, if you want to take it a level of a
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Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: update-manager
Version : 0.37.1
Upstream Author : Michiel Sikkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://geeklog.eyesopened.nl/index.php/update-manager/
* License
Am 2005-03-27 18:25:20, schrieb sean finney:
> or, if you want to take it a level of abstraction deeper, these programs
> are all using the utmpx library calls to register the "logins". w,
> who, last, and finger all use utmpx system calls to tell you about who's
> currently (or previously) logge
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 17:01 -0300, Andre Filipe de Assuncao e Brito
wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Andre Filipe de Assuncao e Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> * Package name: update-manager
> Version : 0.37.1
> Upstream Author : Michiel Sikkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I demand that Lars Wirzenius may or may not have written...
> su, 2005-03-27 kello 07:49 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh kirjoitti:
>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
>>> I hear that Adam Heath (doogie for those on IRC) has been working on a
>>> new source package format that will ma
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: update-notifier
Version : 0.38.10
Upstream Author : Michiel Sikkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://geeklog.eyesopened.nl/index.php/update-notifier/
* License
Hello fellow maintainers,
with organisation in groups becoming more and more popular, IMO it is now
time to find some convention for declaring the group members and
guidelines inside of the Debian source package.
Some people call that file MAINTAINERS, some README.svn or similar, and
some do not
Michelle Konzack wrote:
It works in SARGE and SID but not under WOODY because I get only
user/dev/pts/1
well, the 'w' program from procps has not really changed. My woody box
has procps version 2.0.7. So either a) you have an odd version or b) the
utmp data has changed. If b) is the rea
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 18:17 -0300, Andre Filipe de Assuncao e Brito
wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Andre Filipe de Assuncao e Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> * Package name: update-notifier
> Version : 0.38.10
> Upstream Author : Michiel Sikkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED
Eduard Bloch wrote:
So I suggest to set a kind of soft policy:
every package maintained by a group should keep a file (with a common
filename) in the Debian diff, which tells all neccessary things:
- who are members of that group
- which person from this group is responsible for exactly this pack
* Sean Perry [Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:36:49 -0800]:
> Source: mysource
> Maintainer: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Maintainers: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I left the Maintainer in place to allow for some backwards
> compatibility. This could be the 'captain' of the project.
Hi!
Thomas Hood [2005-03-26 10:02 +0100]:
> > Changes:
> > lsb (2.0-6) unstable; urgency=low
> > .
> >* Create lsb package in binary-indep step. (Closes: #297788)
> >* Merge /lib/lsb/init-functions from Ubuntu.
> >* Split /lib/lsb/init-functions into arch-all lsb-base package; this
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