Bug#298526: ITP: usbmount -- Automatically mount and unmount USB mass storage devices

2005-03-08 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: usbmount Version : 0.0.5 Upstream Author : Martin Dickopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.zero-based.org/debian/usbmount.html * License : GPL Description : Automatically mount and unmount USB mass st

Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns))

2005-03-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 07:52:23AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > IMO, this actually _proves_ the case that ftpmaster is one of the > biggest problems that Debian has at the moment, now that the DAM > problem has been solved elegantly and efficiently. Wrong, the BIGGEST problem is that we have so m

Bug#276148: ITP: nsis -- Nullsoft Scriptable Install System (modified for debian)

2005-03-08 Thread Paul Wise
retitle 276148 ITP: nsis -- Nullsoft Scriptable Install System (modified for debian) retitle 276153 ITP: nsis -- Nullsoft Scriptable Install System (modified for debian) owner 276148 ! owner 276153 ! thanks for the banana republic :( More info and a long description about the version I intend to

Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues?

2005-03-08 Thread Frank Küster
(Moving to -project, as requested by Steve Langasek) Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 07:52:23AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: >> >> IMO, this actually _proves_ the case that ftpmaster is one of the >> biggest problems that Debian has at the moment,

Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns))

2005-03-08 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 07:52:23AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > > > IMO, this actually _proves_ the case that ftpmaster is one of the > > biggest problems that Debian has at the moment, now that the DAM > > problem has been solved elega

Re: fftw3 non-pic k7 optimisations

2005-03-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
severity 175077 wishlist thanks On Mar 07, Daniel Kobras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marco, what's your current feeling towards #175077 (non-PIC code in > libdv) that you submitted back then when prelink entered Debian? It's a > case of hand-optimized assembly in a multimedia lib, and here I've

Whereabouts of missing maintainer shiju@infovillage.net (Shiju p. Nair)

2005-03-08 Thread Olaf van der Spek
Hi, Does anyone know about the whereabouts of the mrtg maintainer, Shiju p. Nair? The package has bugs that are multiple years old and no recent uploads by the maintainer. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=mrtg -- Olaf van der Spek http://xccu.sf.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: usbmount: udev script to automatically (un)mount USB mass storage devices: include in Debian?

2005-03-08 Thread Steve Greenland
On 08-Mar-05, 01:39 (CST), martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, it can't be done... that's one thing. You can "remove > knowledge of the medium from the system once it has been pulled > out". You cannot unmount it because it will already be removed by > the time that udev or any othe

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread Steve Greenland
On 07-Mar-05, 17:46 (CST), David H?rdeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > o Revocation certificates for the gpg keys, are there arguments > for/against storing them on the usb key? While you might store the revocation certificate (RC) on *a* key, I certainly wouldn't store it on *the* key. If yo

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Henning Makholm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050307 09:50]: > Scripsit Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I also think that it would be a very good thing if we were to use our > > collective discretion more often -- to say, for example, "well, you could > > call this source, but it's bloody horribl

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050307 14:50]: > Henning Makholm writes: > > Yes, but we shouldn't act as if it was a _freedom_ problem. > If it was deliberately made bloody horribly ugly and painful in order to > make changing it difficult, it's a freedom problem. > > There are sure to be bor

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Clint Byrum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050307 18:15]: > Please understand.. I want Debian to be great. I want it to "release > when it is ready." Under the current system, being ready means achieving > an enormous number of goals that benefit a very small number of users. For sarge, the number of arch

mipsel binutils/gcc/glibc shared library breakage

2005-03-08 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Dear Debian developers, I gather there are some people out there with MIPS little-endian machines (from mipsel drop discussion) and Debian on it. Do huge shared libraries (containing >4 symbols) work for you? I am currently investigating an issue I have with my MIPS32r4, binutils > 2.14.90

Re: UK Meetings

2005-03-08 Thread Ben Hill
On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 23:52 +, Will Newton wrote: > Try the debian-uk list: > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/debian-uk Perfect, thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: combining fakeroot and distcc/SSH

2005-03-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op za, 05-03-2005 te 18:55 +0100, schreef martin f krafft: > also sprach Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.05.1840 +0100]: > > ssh -i usualy helps. > > not if you cannot influence how SSH is called. TTBOMK, distcc is free software. -- EARTH smog | bricks AIR -

Re: grass and Packages-arch-specific

2005-03-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op za, 05-03-2005 te 14:26 +0100, schreef Thiemo Seufer: > Steve Halasz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've sent a few emails over the last month to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] requesting that grass be removed from > > packages-arch-specific. But my pleas have fallen on deaf ears, or > > p

Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns))

2005-03-08 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
(Note: In order for this thread to prove useful I'm going to adhere to aj's ObBug: rule [0]. This will also probably limit my answers somewhat and prevent me from answering every post] On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 12:05:32PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: > What's the purpose of NEW then? Why are package

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread Ben Hill
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 00:46 +0100, David Härdeman wrote: > first of all, this might be slightly off-topic for the debian-devel > list, but I've got the impression that it's already been solved by some > DD's and might prove interesting to others (including non-DD's such as > me). I use a very s

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread Ben Hill
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 14:58 +, Ben Hill wrote: > > In my home directory I create a symlink for /media/usbkey/ssh -> > ~/.ssh > and /media/usbkey/gnupg -> ~/.gnupg. It has to be said, this method isn't the most secure method by any means, and I'm interested to hear other's approaches. Cheers,

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op di, 08-03-2005 te 14:58 +, schreef Ben Hill: > On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 00:46 +0100, David HÃrdeman wrote: > > first of all, this might be slightly off-topic for the debian-devel > > list, but I've got the impression that it's already been solved by some > > DD's and might prove interesting t

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread Jesus Climent
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 02:58:41PM +, Ben Hill wrote: > > In my home directory I create a symlink for /media/usbkey/ssh -> ~/.ssh > and /media/usbkey/gnupg -> ~/.gnupg. One can also use the --home flag to gpg. -- Jesus Climent info:www.pumuki.org Unix Sy

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread Jesus Climent
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 04:07:02PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > The only difference is that, rather than symlinking ~/.gnupg, I symlink > ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg; that way, I can mount the USB key read-only, which > allows me to safely remove it while still mounted; my trustdb and public > keyri

Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)

2005-03-08 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Joe, * Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-08 11:25]: > On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 22:32 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > On Monday, 07 Mar 2005, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:03:50 +0100, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >* Frank Küster <

Re: usbmount: udev script to automatically (un)mount USB mass storage devices: include in Debian?

2005-03-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.08.1423 +0100]: > While not perfect, using autofs with a very short timeout (5 seconds, > say) alleviates this problem. No it does not. You would be surprised how many people copy to and remove the stick the same second that cp returns to th

Re: usbmount: udev script to automatically (un)mount USB mass storage devices: include in Debian?

2005-03-08 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mardi 8 Mars 2005 16:15, martin f krafft a ÃcritÂ: > also sprach Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.08.1423 +0100]: > > While not perfect, using autofs with a very short timeout (5 > > seconds, say) alleviates this problem. > > No it does not. You would be surprised how many people co

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread Ben Hill
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 16:07 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > The only difference is that, rather than symlinking ~/.gnupg, I > symlink > ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg; that way, I can mount the USB key read-only, > which > allows me to safely remove it while still mounted; my trustdb and > public > keyrin

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
Wouter wrote: >Op di, 08-03-2005 te 14:58 +, schreef Ben Hill: >> >> So, when I stick the dongle into the USB slot, the drive is >> automatically mounted, and the symlinks point to my real key >> directories. >> >> When the key is out of the machine, my keys are safe offline. > >This is also

Re: usbmount: udev script to automatically (un)mount USB mass storage devices: include in Debian?

2005-03-08 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi! Pierre Habouzit [2005-03-08 16:22 +0100]: > mount -o sync ... is then a solution, especially if you only put small > things, and that the performance loss is not too painfull. That would be completely true if "sync" would hold what the name promises. VFAT does not (completely) implement "syn

Re: UK Meetings

2005-03-08 Thread David Pashley
On Mar 08, 2005 at 14:40, Ben Hill praised the llamas by saying: > On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 23:52 +, Will Newton wrote: > > Try the debian-uk list: > > > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/debian-uk > > Perfect, thanks! > You may also want to join #debian-uk on OFTC too, which

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread David Pashley
On Mar 08, 2005 at 14:58, Ben Hill praised the llamas by saying: > On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 00:46 +0100, David Härdeman wrote: > > first of all, this might be slightly off-topic for the debian-devel > > list, but I've got the impression that it's already been solved by some > > DD's and might prove

Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)

2005-03-08 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-08 15:24]: > Hello Joe, > > * Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-08 11:25]: > > On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 22:32 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > > On Monday, 07 Mar 2005, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:03:50

Re: usbmount: udev script to automatically (un)mount USB mass storage devices: include in Debian?

2005-03-08 Thread Matthew Garrett
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mount -o sync ... is then a solution, especially if you only put small=20 > things, and that the performance loss is not too painfull. Currently sync isn't supported on FAT (there are patches to provide it). If you're using ext2/3, that isn't a problem

Re: Bug#298354: ITP: gtk2-engines-clearlooks -- An attractive gtk engine with a focus on usability.

2005-03-08 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 17:21 +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> Marco Alfonso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> * Package name: gtk2-engines-clearlooks >>> Version : 0.4 >> [...] >>> This is a GTK+ 2.x engine based on Bluecurve. It fe

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread Ben Hill
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 15:41 +, David Pashley wrote: > Ideally I want to keep the disk formatted as vfat so it is usable on > other operating systems and use an ext2 loopback filesystem. Getting > the > system to mount that is the hard part. I initially had my stuff stored on a VFAT partition,

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-08 Thread Thomas Hood
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 13:50:10 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Without alsa-base installed, hotplug and discover will load both > modules, resulting in various disasters depending on the hardware. It's > not because things work with your setup that they are suitable for a > stable Debian release.

Re: Bug#298354: ITP: gtk2-engines-clearlooks -- An attractive gtk engine with a focus on usability.

2005-03-08 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 16:50 +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > But instead of starting to be more than a little bit rude, you should > have tried to understand the meaning of the last sentence in my mail. I > think this is Ross' error, he should have used the usual procedure to > announce that

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Clint Byrum
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 15:01 +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Clint Byrum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050307 18:15]: > > Please understand.. I want Debian to be great. I want it to "release > > when it is ready." Under the current system, being ready means achieving > > an enormous number of goals that bene

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Clint Byrum
On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 20:33 +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 09:13:20AM -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: > > I feel your pain. Its hard to keep all these buildd's for different > > architectures up. That goes to the very heart of my point. > > > > I'm not saying Debian should totall

Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)))

2005-03-08 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 08 March 2005 15.55, Javier FernÃndez-Sanguino PeÃa wrote: > > Further: do not accept every package to enter Debian... > > Should be done, but if ftp-maintainers take this decissions they get > bashed on the basis of them preventing "freedom". And we're back again to > the pointless hot-

Re: Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)))

2005-03-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 07:42:58PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > IMHO, Debian has a serious double-problem here and needs to attack it. > ftp-masters should, as I understand the role, be a purely administrative > function: keep the archive running. No policy decisions should be made by > f

Re: usbmount: udev script to automatically (un)mount USB mass storage devices: include in Debian?

2005-03-08 Thread Steve Greenland
On 08-Mar-05, 09:15 (CST), martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.08.1423 +0100]: > > While not perfect, using autofs with a very short timeout (5 seconds, > > say) alleviates this problem. > > No it does not. You would be surprised h

Re: Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)))

2005-03-08 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:50:05PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 07:42:58PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > IMHO, Debian has a serious double-problem here and needs to attack it. > > ftp-masters should, as I understand the role, be a purely administrative > > functi

Re: Switchconf: Orphaning or removing?

2005-03-08 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Sorry... I got your mail the first time, I am sorry I could not reply to it sooner. Jose Manuel dos Santos Calhariz dijo [Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 07:15:39PM +]: > Yes, I care about it. I use it on my laptop to have personalized > configurations for the places I connect to the Internet. For exam

Re: Bug#298354: ITP: gtk2-engines-clearlooks -- An attractive gtkengine with a focus on usability.

2005-03-08 Thread Gunnar Wolf
David Moreno Garza dijo [Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 09:57:27PM -0600]: > > Please look at http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html, it's already in > > the NEW queue. And hey, Ross, what about an ITP of your own? > > What should Marco do then? He is learning how to make official Debian > packages, he is fo

Re: Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold?

2005-03-08 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
Maybe new versions of packages already in the archive that depend upon packages which are NEW could somehow signal or automatically raise the priority of those said packages waiting to get in. I guess it's a common case, specially for new libraries, since it can potentially hold important new f

Re: Not every package should enter Debian

2005-03-08 Thread Julien BLACHE
Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wanted: a policy document that draws the lines (there will always be grey > areas, yes. But they can be made smaller than they are right now), with > processes that ensure that handling critical cases does not take 2 months > or more. Yay for mor

NPTL and static linking

2005-03-08 Thread Blunt Jackson
I discovered with some surprise that the 2.6 kernel does not come with an archive version of the NPTL pthreads library (ie., no libpthread.a). So, while dynamically linked applications will link against NPTL by default, building a statically linked application will not only link to LinuxThreads by

Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-08 Thread sean finney
hi christian, On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 05:58:43PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > You might want to post a call for translations for the common > templates in the package, as I understand this package includes a set > of common templates. yeah, this project aims at making life easier for three d

gcc-3.3 3.3.5-9 C++ ABI problem.

2005-03-08 Thread Kurt Roeckx
Hi, gcc-3.3 3.3.5-9 was build with the configure option --disable-__cxa_atexit instead of --enable-__cxa_atexit. This causes it to have a different C++ ABI. This was fixed in the 3.3.5-10 which should be available soon. I've made a list of source packages that might have been build with the 3.3

Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting sean finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > okay, i'll do that some time in the near future. i'd like to give a > final look over my templates to make sure that i like my own english > before i ask anyone to translate it though :) Well, be sure that we will be critic towards your English too...ev

Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting sean finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > to reply to my own post... > > i was under the impression that because dbconfig-common was previously > in experimental that i wouldn't have problems related to the stalled > NEW queue, but i was wrong. > > so you can get them here: > > deb http://p

Re: NPTL and static linking

2005-03-08 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2005-03-08 kello 13:00 -0800, Blunt Jackson kirjoitti: > Does anyone know if this is an intentional decision on the part of the > glibc/nptl crew to refuse to support static linking of the pthreads > library (perhaps due to ongoing development)? I don't know the answer to your exact question,

DPL IRC Debate Time Change (Was: Re: DPL debate 2005: 19 March 2005, 23:00 UTC)

2005-03-08 Thread Helen Faulkner
martin f krafft wrote: [This should have gone to d-d-a in the first place too, sorry] (So should this - sorry!) Hello, world. This year's DPL debate will take place on Saturday, 19 March 2005, at 23:00 UTC[0]. It will last for two hours. The meeting will take place on the Freenode IRC network[1], u

Re: Automatic building of (parts of) the archive

2005-03-08 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, I am still struggling with the setup of a local buildd for testing purposes. I was able to manually build a package, using the command [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sbuild -d unstable -v hello_2.1.1-4 However, after I put a package into build/REDO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat build/REDO acl2_2.9.1-1

Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-08 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 10:51:48PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Comments about the templates: wow... thanks for all these. i'll work on incorporating these suggestions in with the next version, before i make a request for translations. sean -- signature.asc Description: Digita

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op di, 08-03-2005 te 10:33 -0800, schreef Clint Byrum: > How much would it help with the current problems if we just picked 3 > arches(mipsel, s390, ???) This argument has been brought up so many times by now that I'm amazed people /still/ try it. The answer is, simply, 'not'. Go learn to use go

Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues?

2005-03-08 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > (Note: In order for this thread to prove useful I'm going to adhere to aj's > ObBug: rule [0]. This will also probably limit my answers somewhat and > prevent me from answering every post] Why the need for being that pretentious? > On

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 10:22:33PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Op di, 08-03-2005 te 10:33 -0800, schreef Clint Byrum: > > How much would it help with the current problems if we just picked 3 > > arches(mipsel, s390, ???) > This argument has been brought up so many times by now that I'm amazed

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Clint Byrum
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 22:22 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Op di, 08-03-2005 te 10:33 -0800, schreef Clint Byrum: > > How much would it help with the current problems if we just picked 3 > > arches(mipsel, s390, ???) > > This argument has been brought up so many times by now that I'm amazed > pe

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Joey Hess
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > This argument has been brought up so many times by now that I'm amazed > people /still/ try it. > > The answer is, simply, 'not'. Go learn to use google if you want to know > why. You're ignoring people arguing the other side of the issue. For example, in <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 10:33:05AM -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: > How much would it help with the current problems if we just picked 3 > arches(mipsel, s390, ???) and said "these are not going to release with > the rest of sarge"? Would it reduce the time to test the installer? Any > RC bugs that were

Re: NPTL and static linking

2005-03-08 Thread Blunt Jackson
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:55:15 +0200, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ti, 2005-03-08 kello 13:00 -0800, Blunt Jackson kirjoitti: > > Does anyone know if this is an intentional decision on the part of the > > glibc/nptl crew to refuse to support static linking of the pthreads > > library (

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 14:36 -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: > On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 22:22 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Op di, 08-03-2005 te 10:33 -0800, schreef Clint Byrum: > > > How much would it help with the current problems if we just picked 3 > > > arches(mipsel, s390, ???) > > > > This argu

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Gergely, On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 12:56:10AM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: > Just to chime in, not saying that maintaining a consistent state between > architectures is an easy thing and presents no problems, but Debian is > the only distribution that supports all these many architectures. This > h

Re: Switchconf: Orphaning or removing?

2005-03-08 Thread Jose Manuel dos Santos Calhariz
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 07:32:30PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Sorry... I got your mail the first time, I am sorry I could not reply > to it sooner. > > > There exist any alternative? > > Most of the use I had seen for switchconf was regarding network > detection - that can be perfectly handled t

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread David Härdeman
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 02:30:06AM -0500, sean finney wrote: well, me wanting to do things the "right way" it ended up being a pretty long script and i didn't think the list would appreciate random shell scripts flying around. but, i'll go ahead and put it online: http://www.seanius.net/linux/keyl

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread David Härdeman
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 07:29:20AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: On 07-Mar-05, 17:46 (CST), David H?rdeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: o Revocation certificates for the gpg keys, are there arguments for/against storing them on the usb key? While you might store the revocation certificate (RC) on

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-08 Thread sean finney
hello, On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 01:38:22AM +0100, David Härdeman wrote: > o when the usb key is inserted, the user is prompted for a password to > the encrypted loopback file which is then mounted, the ssh keys within > are fed to ssh agent, and the file is unmounted again. you could easily ext

Re: gcc-3.3 3.3.5-9 C++ ABI problem.

2005-03-08 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 10:22:00PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > Hi, > > gcc-3.3 3.3.5-9 was build with the configure option > --disable-__cxa_atexit instead of --enable-__cxa_atexit. This > causes it to have a different C++ ABI. > > This was fixed in the 3.3.5-10 which should be available soon. >

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op di, 08-03-2005 te 14:36 -0800, schreef Clint Byrum: > On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 22:22 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Op di, 08-03-2005 te 10:33 -0800, schreef Clint Byrum: > > > How much would it help with the current problems if we just picked 3 > > > arches(mipsel, s390, ???) > > > > This arg

Re: Automatic building of (parts of) the archive

2005-03-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op di, 08-03-2005 te 23:01 +0100, schreef Frank KÃster: > Hi, > > I am still struggling with the setup of a local buildd for testing > purposes. I was able to manually build a package, using the command > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sbuild -d unstable -v hello_2.1.1-4 > > However, after I put a pack

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op di, 08-03-2005 te 17:58 -0500, schreef Joey Hess: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > This argument has been brought up so many times by now that I'm amazed > > people /still/ try it. > > > > The answer is, simply, 'not'. Go learn to use google if you want to know > > why. > > You're ignoring people

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-08 Thread Nick Phillips
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 08:31:18AM +, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I also think that it would be a very good thing if we were to use our > > collective discretion more often -- to say, for example, "well, you could > > call this source, but it's blo

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Joey Hess
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > I very well remember that mail. The key word in Clint's mail that > prompted my reply was 'current' (problems). d-i has been ported to all > our architectures now, which required a lot of work, and doing a d-i > release still requires quite some work to synchronise that amo

Re: Not every package should enter Debian

2005-03-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 07:42:58PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: >> IMHO, Debian has a serious double-problem here and needs to attack it. >> ftp-masters should, as I understand the role, be a purely administrative >> function: keep the archive ru

Re: Not every package should enter Debian

2005-03-08 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 06.39, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > There is another problem with NEW: The US laws. > > Untill a package has been processed through NEW and a mail send to > some goverment agency Debian runs risk of violating the crypto export > laws. I've already proposed this: if si

The Right Way to turn a native package in a non native package with a NMU

2005-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Dear fellow package maintainers, I need you help. I'm currently trying to NMU gnome-find so that this package is no more a Debian native package, which is pointless. A kind of QA work on a package with low activity (and a probably MIA maintainer). So, I grabbed it 1.0.2-1 current version and reco

Re: The Right Way to turn a native package in a non native package with a NMU

2005-03-08 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 07:35:25AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > I upload the .orig.tar.gz, diff.gz, .dsc and .changes files to the > upload queue, but I keep getting the following message when the > package is processed, saying me that gnome-find_1.0.2.orig.tar.gz is > not in the queue or in t