On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 12:40:53AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Maybe I'm too unclear. They are guidelines. As such they don't define
> what source is or what forms of 'source' are acceptable but use the
> broadest term saying just 'source'. If something is still acceptable
> as source (li
Scripsit Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I also think that it would be a very good thing if we were to use our
> collective discretion more often -- to say, for example, "well, you could
> call this source, but it's bloody horribly ugly and painful source,
> and we don't want that kind of crap
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 07:25:46PM +, Jose Manuel dos Santos Calhariz wrote:
>
> Yes, I care about it. I use it on my laptop to have personalized
> configurations for the places I connect to the Internet. For example
> besides interfaces, I have a sources.list optimized.
>
> Now I have to i
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Scripsit Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> I also think that it would be a very good thing if we were to use our
>> collective discretion more often -- to say, for example, "well, you could
>> call this source, but it's bloody horribly ugly and pa
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But facts remain that the NEW queue process stopped completely a few
> months ago, and almost only the d-i related packages have been able to
> get through the "queue" since then.
>
> At the moment, 419 source packages are waiting in the NEW queue.
[Frank Küster]
> tetex-bin, with a new binary package name, and targetted at
> experimental, has been processed.
Good. :)
I'm aware that a few packages have been able to get through the NEW
queue. Thus the "almost only the d-i releated packages have been able
to get throught" in my email. But I
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> [Frank Küster]
>> tetex-bin, with a new binary package name, and targetted at
>> experimental, has been processed.
>
> Good. :)
>
> I'm aware that a few packages have been able to get through the NEW
> queue. Thus the "almost only the d-i releate
Le lundi 07 mars 2005 à 00:03 +0100, Christoph Hellwig a écrit :
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:41:27PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > When you install an alsa-modules package for the 2.4 kernel, you get
> > alsa-base per the dependencies. However, when you install sarge with a
> > 2.6 kernel, al
* Paul Brossier:
>> Why do you insist to have that code be position-independant ?
>
> I could say because it is a 'must' in the debian policy, but...
There is no such requirement in the Policy. 8-)
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hi martin,
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 01:23:51PM +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> sounds really good. How do your scripts relate to the db management
> scripts provided by wwwconfig-common, maintained by Ola Lundqvist
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>?
my code is a superset of what's done in wwwconfig-common. p
On 07-Mar-05, 06:23 (CST), Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le lundi 07 mars 2005 ? 00:03 +0100, Christoph Hellwig a ?crit :
> > It's not a depency in any way. I play sound just fine with OSS drivers
> > without the ALSA mess getting in my way anywhere.
>
> Without alsa-base install
Henning Makholm writes:
> Yes, but we shouldn't act as if it was a _freedom_ problem.
If it was deliberately made bloody horribly ugly and painful in order to
make changing it difficult, it's a freedom problem.
There are sure to be borderline cases, but it usually isn't all that hard
to tell the
HI,
* Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-05 17:52]:
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There's rumours on debian-devel that NEW processing is actual on hold
(by decision rather than by default) but that wasn't communicated. Of
course it may be false
It is false.
http://lists.debi
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 02:05:44PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Paul Brossier:
>
> >> Why do you insist to have that code be position-independant ?
> >
> > I could say because it is a 'must' in the debian policy, but...
>
> There is no such requirement in the Policy. 8-)
10.2. Libraries
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005, Paul Brossier wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 02:05:44PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > >> Why do you insist to have that code be position-independant ?
> > > I could say because it is a 'must' in the debian policy, but...
> > There is no such requirement in the Policy. 8-)
Scripsit John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Henning Makholm writes:
>> Yes, but we shouldn't act as if it was a _freedom_ problem.
> If it was deliberately made bloody horribly ugly and painful in order to
> make changing it difficult, it's a freedom problem.
True. But in that case I would not ag
On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 07:20:42PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
>
> If the build fails on sparc, arm, and s390, how should this be
> indicative that we should drop s390, mipsel, and hppa?
>
mipsel is a little wrong in this list. We had some hardware problems on
the 2 mipsel buildds (Same Machine,
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh:
> Just a small question: does the system KNOW an object compiled with
> -fPIC but which contains non-PIC code must be treated as a non-PIC
> object?
On x86, the dynamic linker can perform the necessary relocations when
a DSO is loaded which contains position-depende
Marco Alfonso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Package name: gtk2-engines-clearlooks
> Version : 0.4
[...]
> This is a GTK+ 2.x engine based on Bluecurve. It features a modern look
> without sacrificing (much) speed.
Please look at http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html, it's already i
On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 16:35 +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 07:20:42PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
> >
> > If the build fails on sparc, arm, and s390, how should this be
> > indicative that we should drop s390, mipsel, and hppa?
> >
>
Wow what a flurry of discussion that
Le lundi 07 mars 2005 à 07:26 -0600, Steve Greenland a écrit :
> > Without alsa-base installed, hotplug and discover will load both
> > modules, resulting in various disasters depending on the hardware. It's
> > not because things work with your setup that they are suitable for a
> > stable Debian
Clint Byrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 16:35 +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 07:20:42PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
>> >
>> > If the build fails on sparc, arm, and s390, how should this be
>> > indicative that we should drop s390, mipsel, and hppa?
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 02:07:31PM +, Paul Brossier wrote:
> hrm, but yeah of course, one could say that it's fine if a
> library compiled with -fPIC still contains non position
> independant code. :)
This came up briefly on -policy some time ago as the result of #175074
and #175077, but witho
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On Mar 07, Paul Brossier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 10.2. Libraries
> ---
>
> The shared version of a library must be compiled with `-fPIC', and the
> static version must not be. In other words, each source unit (`*.c',
> for example, for C files) will need to be com
> anyway, i've uploaded my first "public" release of dbconfig-common
> to experimental. minus a couple bells and whistles (and probably
> plus a bunch of undiscovered bugs), it's pretty much feature complete for
> what's mentioned on my webpage[3], so at this point i'd like to call for
> some brav
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 04:19:53 -0600
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 09:17:22PM -0600, Jacob S wrote:
> > On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 00:48:21 +0100
> > Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello developers,
> > >
> > > We have plans to add support in popul
Florian Lohoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> mipsel is a little wrong in this list. We had some hardware problems on
> the 2 mipsel buildds (Same Machine, Same Manuf. Date, Same time PSU
> defect) and it took a while to get at least one up. The short-after
> death of one of the machines went past
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 07:05:40PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Mar 07, Paul Brossier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > 10.2. Libraries
> > ---
> >
> > The shared version of a library must be compiled with `-fPIC', and the
> > static version must not be. In other words, e
On 07-Mar-05, 11:06 (CST), Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And the workaround we use for this bug is to blacklist one module when
> two of them provide the same functionality. The blacklists are in the
> alsa-base package, which should then be installed when ALSA modules are
> presen
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
Debian-Edu will hold a Developer Gathering in Nafplion, Greece,
from the 15th to 17th of April.
http://www.debian.gr/~bilbo/nafplion/CANON0216.jpeg
It looks really nice, but any help how to get there would be great.
I suspect that I did something wrong wh
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 09:13:20AM -0800, Clint Byrum wrote:
> I feel your pain. Its hard to keep all these buildd's for different
> architectures up. That goes to the very heart of my point.
>
> I'm not saying Debian should totally abandon all the work done by the
> various architecture teams. Bu
Hello,
I have written and packaged a script to automatically mount and unmount
USB mass storage devices (e.g. USB memory pens) when they are plugged in
or removed. The script is invoked by udev.
To solicit opinions, I posted about it to debian-mentors list last
October:
http://lists.debian.org
Le lundi 07 mars 2005 Ã 12:53 -0600, Steve Greenland a Ãcrit :
> On 07-Mar-05, 11:06 (CST), Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And the workaround we use for this bug is to blacklist one module when
> > two of them provide the same functionality. The blacklists are in the
> > alsa-base
On ÎÎÏÏÎÏÎ 07 ÎÎÏÏÎÎÏ 2005 21:16, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> > Debian-Edu will hold a Developer Gathering in Nafplion, Greece,
> > from the 15th to 17th of April.
> >
> > http://www.debian.gr/~bilbo/nafplion/CANON0216.jpeg
>
> It looks really nice, but any
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 12:10:00PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005, Paul Brossier wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 02:05:44PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > > >> Why do you insist to have that code be position-independant ?
> > > > I could say because it is a 'mu
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:03:50 +0100, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>* Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-05 17:52]:
>>http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2005/03/msg00019.html
>
>But it is very slow at the moment.
Yes. And the people responsible refuse - as usual - to communi
Hi Marc,
On Monday, 07 Mar 2005, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:03:50 +0100, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >* Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-05 17:52]:
> >>http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2005/03/msg00019.html
> >
> >But it is very s
[Martin Zobel-Helas]
> Might it be that they try to get no new packages into the archive
> before a release? It is just a guess...
I have no idea.
But several of the packages in the NEW queue are just rearranged old
packages fixing real bugs, and sarge would be better of if these fixes
made it in
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 10:27:23PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:03:50 +0100, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >* Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-05 17:52]:
> >>http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2005/03/msg00019.html
> >But it is very slow at the mome
On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 22:32 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> On Monday, 07 Mar 2005, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:03:50 +0100, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >* Frank KÃster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-05 17:52]:
> > >>http://lists.debi
Are there any UK meetings / keysignings for Debian Developers (and
others :-) )?
I'd be interested in attending if there were.
Cheers,
Ben
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Hi all,
first of all, this might be slightly off-topic for the debian-devel
list, but I've got the impression that it's already been solved by some
DD's and might prove interesting to others (including non-DD's such as
me).
I've been meaning for some time to get a USB key to manage private keys
On Monday 07 March 2005 23:38, Ben Hill wrote:
> Are there any UK meetings / keysignings for Debian Developers (and
> others :-) )?
Try the debian-uk list:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/debian-uk
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Title: in Germania niente di nuovo..
Alla cortese attenzione...Il COMMUNICATORE propone la visione gratuita delle ns. novità sia in Italia come anche in Germania, del tutto NO-profit,come per esempio Villa Rosa, il 06.03.2005 Anzitutto devo lamentarmi, che attualmente dalla Germania
I'm considering asking ftp maintainers to remove from the archive the
following software/documentation I maintain. Actually, I haven't done any
maintenance tasks in most of these for months, in many cases upstream is
dead and the userbase is really low (or inexistant).
Feel free to speak up if
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 08:28:39 -0500, sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> my code is a superset of what's done in wwwconfig-common.
That sounds great! thanks for your work on this front. I'll be reading
your doco in more detail, as I have to sort out the path forward for
twig...
martin
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On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 17:21 +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> Marco Alfonso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > * Package name: gtk2-engines-clearlooks
> > Version : 0.4
> [...]
> > This is a GTK+ 2.x engine based on Bluecurve. It features a modern look
> > without sacrificing (much)
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 12:46:46AM +0100, David Härdeman wrote:
> o In order to minimize the exposure of the key, it might be wise to
> mount the drive, load the keys (ssh,gpg) into the memory of the
> appropriate agents and then unmount the drive. On the other hand, does
> this actually prov
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 12:46:59AM -0500, sean finney wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 12:46:46AM +0100, David Härdeman wrote:
> > o In order to minimize the exposure of the key, it might be wise to
> > mount the drive, load the keys (ssh,gpg) into the memory of the
> > appropriate agents and t
An arguably more secure approach would be to use a cryptographic smart
card in a usb key form factor with OpenSC. Unfortunately integration
with ssh and gpg is lacking at this point, but I hope to be able to do
something about that post-sarge (ssh has support but doesn't compile
it in, and gnupg su
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:03:52 -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Yeesh, anyone reading -project should know the reason.
>
>http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/02/msg00213.html
There is no reason given there. Let me quote:
|- most processing of the NEW queue has of late been d
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 21:52:31 -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 12:46:59AM -0500, sean finney wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 12:46:46AM +0100, David Härdeman wrote:
>> > o In order to minimize the exposure of the key, it might be wise to
>> > mount the dri
> Any reason not to post it on-list? I was hoping to improve the
> security/usability of my own setup based on the best practices offered up in
> reply to this thread.
Yep. Seconded.
This is exactly what I was thinking while seeing this thread : let's
watch it and learn how my fellow DD and Deb
hi,
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 09:52:31PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > i have a usb/hotplug/ssh-add script that loads an ssh key off of a usb
> > stick, and removes it when the usb stick is removed. if you're
> > interested i can send you a copy off-list.
>
> Any reason not to post it on-list?
also sprach Martin Dickopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.07.2034 +0100]:
> In the course of the discussion I got the impression that this way
> of automatically (un)mounting USB devices was not percieved as
> a good idea.
Well, it can't be done... that's one thing. You can "remove
knowledge of the
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