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Re: Compiling libc4 on Debian unstable

2005-01-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Christoph Berg wrote: > [0] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $host archive.debian.org > archive.debian.org has address 208.185.25.38 > [0] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $host 208.185.25.38 > 38.25.185.208.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer raff.debian.org. > > http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=ra

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Andreas Barth
* Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050114 00:45]: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 02:26:52PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 11:19:03PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > Also of interest is that some 1300 packages would no longer need to > > > declare a Build-Depends: a

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Anthony Towns
Andreas Barth wrote: * Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050114 00:45]: On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 02:26:52PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 11:19:03PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Also of interest is that some 1300 packages would no longer need to declare a Build-Depends

Re: Bug#290421: ITP: zeiberbude -- A program for administering internet cafes.

2005-01-14 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le vendredi 14 janvier 2005 à 01:55 +0100, Robert Millan a écrit : > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: zeiberbude > Version : 2.0.4 > Upstream Author : Christian Toepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://zeiberbude.sourceforge.net/ > * License

Lintian-induced changes in changelog, hardlinks? (Was: Re: Please consider bzip2 1.0.2-3 for sarge)

2005-01-14 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
(moved to -devel, as this is offtopic for -release) On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 08:48:38PM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: >* Fixed lintian warning "bzip2 libbz2-1.0 libbz2-dev binaries: > postinst-should-not-set-usr-doc-link". >* Fixed lintian warning "bzip2 binary: package-contain

Re: Re: dselect and its help messages

2005-01-14 Thread Bastiaan Naber
Use 'dselect --expert' if you don't want to see the help messages at all. Thanks that was just what I was looking for. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Frank Küster
Anthony Towns wrote: > Andreas Barth wrote: >> * Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050114 00:45]: >>>Not if build-essential included a suitable versioned depends, like >>>debhelper (>= 4). It already does that for gcc. >> That would still mean a versioned dependency on build-essential. > [...]

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Anthony Towns
Anthony Towns wrote: Scott James Remnant wrote: The stats: 8,920 source packages in Debian unstable main. 8,254 declare a build-dependency on debhelper = 92% of packages build-depend on debhelper. Is that sufficient to declare it build-essential? Also of interest is that some 1300 packages

Re: Lintian-induced changes in changelog, hardlinks? (Was: Re: Please consider bzip2 1.0.2-3 for sarge)

2005-01-14 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:43:12PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: >(moved to -devel, as this is offtopic for -release) > >On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 08:48:38PM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: >> * Fixed lintian warning "bzip2 libbz2-1.0 libbz2-dev binaries: >> postinst-should-not-set-

Re: Lintian-induced changes in changelog, hardlinks? (Was: Re: Please consider bzip2 1.0.2-3 for sarge)

2005-01-14 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Also, eh, I'm not convinced lintian is correct here in complaining, > I'm a bit unsure. Lintian has warned for any hardlinks for a long time, > but is it really bad to have them? Having them across different > directories might cause problems whe

Re: Lintian-induced changes in changelog, hardlinks? (Was: Re: Please consider bzip2 1.0.2-3 for sarge)

2005-01-14 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 14, Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, eh, I'm not convinced lintian is correct here in complaining, > I'm a bit unsure. Lintian has warned for any hardlinks for a long time, > but is it really bad to have them? Having them across different > directories might cause pr

Re: Proper way to remove a package from both sarge and sid

2005-01-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Frederik Dannemare | Package in question is mozilla-firefox-locale-da which is to be replaced | by mozilla-firefox-locale-da-dk (not maintained by me) from source | package mozilla-firefox-locale-all. AFAIK, Danish is not spoken anywhere but in Denmark. Why do you want a m-f-l-da-dk rather

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Frank Küster | That's correct from the point of view of a buildd, or of a developer | running a sid machine. But it is not correct for backporters: Imagine | that packages are added to build-essential, or versioned dependencies in | it are bumped to a higher version number. Then a package witho

Bug#290489: ITP: Mosaic -- Lightweight World Wide Web browser for the X Window System.

2005-01-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: Mosaic Version : 3.0.0b1 Upstream Author : Riccardo Mottola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://carduus.chanet.de/software/mosaic/index.html * License : (GPL + NCSA) Description : Lightweight World Wide Web

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 17:21 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Frank KÃster > > | That's correct from the point of view of a buildd, or of a developer > | running a sid machine. But it is not correct for backporters: Imagine > | that packages are added to build-essential, or versioned dependencie

Re: Proper way to remove a package from both sarge and sid

2005-01-14 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * Frederik Dannemare > | Package in question is mozilla-firefox-locale-da which is to be replaced > | by mozilla-firefox-locale-da-dk (not maintained by me) from source > | package mozilla-firefox-locale-all. > AFAIK, Danish is not spoken anywher

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 05:06:21PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 17:21 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > * Frank Küster > > | That's correct from the point of view of a buildd, or of a developer > > | running a sid machine. But it is not correct for backporters: Imagi

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Frank Küster
Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In effect, if you're building unstable packages on stable, the first > thing you should build is unstable's build-essential. Are you kidding? Well, this is okay if we're talking only about added packages or higher versioned depends. But you can't m

Re: soname number in name of dev-package?

2005-01-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Henning Makholm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Scripsit Stephen Frost > > If the API changes in an incompatible way then *fix* the things which > > use the library to use the new API. Users aren't affected- the old, > > already compiled package, works fine against the lib it depends on, the > > ne

Bug#290536: ITP: acedb -- Object-oriented genome database system

2005-01-14 Thread Tim Cutts
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Package name: acedb Version : 4.9t Upstream Author : Ed Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.acedb.org License : GPL, portions are LGPL Description : Object-oriented genome database system ACeDB (originall

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Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Anthony Towns
Frank Küster wrote: Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In effect, if you're building unstable packages on stable, the first thing you should build is unstable's build-essential. Are you kidding? Well, this is okay if we're talking only about added packages or higher versioned depends. B

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 18:44 +0100, Frank KÃster wrote: > Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In effect, if you're building unstable packages on stable, the first > > thing you should build is unstable's build-essential. > > Are you kidding? Well, this is okay if we're talking on

Re: Lintian-induced changes in changelog, hardlinks? (Was: Re: Please consider bzip2 1.0.2-3 for sarge)

2005-01-14 Thread Anthony Towns
Marco d'Itri wrote: I see no reason to complain. *Woah*. Cheers, aj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Lintian-induced changes in changelog, hardlinks?

2005-01-14 Thread Falk Hueffner
Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also, eh, I'm not convinced lintian is correct here in complaining, > I'm a bit unsure. Lintian has warned for any hardlinks for a long time, > but is it really bad to have them? Having them across different > directories might cause problems whe

Re: Lintian-induced changes in changelog, hardlinks?

2005-01-14 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 08:33:00PM +0100, Falk Hueffner wrote: > Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Also, eh, I'm not convinced lintian is correct here in complaining, > > I'm a bit unsure. Lintian has warned for any hardlinks for a long time, > > but is it really bad to have

Re: RunDinstallHourly

2005-01-14 Thread Dan Jacobson
Remember to make sure the Packages.gz files appear on the mirrors _after_ the packages they refer to are in place. Bug #217957. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:46:45AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 05:06:21PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 17:21 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > > * Frank Küster > > > > | That's correct from the point of view of a buildd, or of a develop

Re: Proper way to remove a package from both sarge and sid

2005-01-14 Thread Frederik Dannemare
On Friday 14 January 2005 17:08, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Frederik Dannemare > > | Package in question is mozilla-firefox-locale-da which is to be > | replaced by mozilla-firefox-locale-da-dk (not maintained by me) > | from source package mozilla-firefox-locale-all. > > AFAIK, Danish is not spoke

Re: Lintian-induced changes in changelog, hardlinks?

2005-01-14 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:43:12PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Also, eh, I'm not convinced lintian is correct here in complaining, > I'm a bit unsure. Lintian has warned for any hardlinks for a long time, > but is it really bad to have them? Having them across different > directories migh

Re: Lintian-induced changes in changelog, hardlinks?

2005-01-14 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 12:15:11AM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > I don't want to speak for past lintian maintainers but I seem to remember > that the lintian philosophy that support this check is that hard-links > in packages should be exceptional and deserve an lintian-override. > (The same hold

Bug#290595: ITP: xwine -- a graphical user interface for the WINE emulator

2005-01-14 Thread Aurélien Labrosse
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: xwine Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Philippe Bousquet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://darken33.free.fr * License : GPL Description : a graphical user inter

Re: How to ensure packages generated from -source are installable?

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 11:33:21AM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: >> Right. Do you regard this as a problem? > > It would be a lot smarter to check if the install would succeed > before unpacking it. If you were replacing a previous alsa-modules > packag

Re: Ignoring the truth or Hiding problems?

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Joel Aelwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:18:21AM -, Adam D. Barratt wrote: >> On Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:05 AM, Ingo Juergensmann >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> [...] >> > When Joerg Jaspert is already doing the dirty daily work, why does >> > James sti

Bug#60810: contents.gz package

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could we have a package which provides /usr/share/.../Contents.gz? > Not sure that share/ is the right place. And as Matt said, versioning > is a potential problem. But lintian (and others: apt-file) could > depend on this package (say, debian-dist-con

Re: build problem on mips{,el}

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:40:14AM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote: >> my package tspc could not be build on mips and I don't know why: > >> /usr/bin/ld: cannot open output file ../../bin/tspc: Permission denied > >> The package builds correctly on all other

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:30:10AM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: >> including insulting you when you type stupid commands. But you don't >> have the right to insult people because you are pissed for not being >> clever enough of looking for dep

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:15:53 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 04:58:56PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: >>> Apparently the dickhead maintainer of ndiswrapper-source has just gone >>> into his shell and refuses to discuss this

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sebastian Ley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Adam Heath wrote: > >> It *may* require a versioned depends on a newer version, but that's just a >> normal bug. > > ...and no reason to introduce this dependency in the -source package. And a Depends in the -source package would change nothing: 1. i

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Op ma, 10-01-2005 te 22:43 +0200, schreef George Danchev: >> On Monday 10 January 2005 22:25, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> > Op ma, 10-01-2005 te 15:12 -0500, schreef William Ballard: >> > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 08:33:02PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:

Bug#290603: ITP: rnc-mode -- editing mode for compact Relax NG syntax

2005-01-14 Thread Chris Lawrence
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: rnc-mode Version : 1.0b3 Upstream Author : David Rosenborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.pantor.com/download.html * License : BSD Description : Emacs editing mode for RELAX NG Compact syntax This p

Re: apt-get should be able to install packages "directly"

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 23:54 +0100, Blade wrote: >> >>>That's the normal way. This way allows me to install dozens of >>>module-source packages and build module packages from them for Debian >>>kernels, without having to install a

Re: APT Repository HOWTO

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello > > Instead of doing all this by hand I can recommend my own package > debarchiver. The latest versions of it do this pretty good in > an automatic way. > > Just wanted to let you know. > > Regards, > Hi, I know I tried debarchiver for the amd64

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Cameron Hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Once upon a time Steve Langasek said... >> >> There is nothing in the -source package that actually requires (or should >> recommend) the -utils package. A much better fix here is for people to get >> over the fact that dpkg isn't apt. > > Apologie

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 01:35 -0500, William Ballard wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:16:01AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: >> > dpkg doesn't remove foo-modules_1.0 at all. >> > Note that I said "remove", the old files are replaced during

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What would be the impact on (c)debootstrap of changing the operation > of dpkg? I haven't looked at the exact sequence in a while, but IIRC > those partially-installed states have valid uses in a debootstrap run. > For instance, an unconfigured

Re: Bug#290396: ITP: lopster2 -- A Napster gtk2 client

2005-01-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 11:25:39PM +0100, Riccardo Setti wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: lopster2 > Version : cvs pre3.9 > Upstream Author : Sgopsgop at users.sourceforge.net Hi, Why don't you let the maintainer of the existing 'lopster' packag

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 21:57 -0800, Michael K. Edwards wrote: > >> What would be the impact on (c)debootstrap of changing the operation >> of dpkg? >> > Forget the impact on debootstrap, the impact on APT and dselect is > pretty huge. dpkg is desi

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 18:28 +, Henning Makholm wrote: > >> Scripsit Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > What's interesting is nobody has jumped in on this thread to point out >> > that dpkg *has* a dependency field for forcing chec

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

2005-01-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050112 22:08]: >> Well, you're also leaving the package in a broken and unconfigured state. >> Doing this in order to save the user a little typing later (adding the >> original package to the second --inst