Re: where is sed in slink?

1998-06-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Joey Hess wrote: > Carey Evans wrote: > > I don't think slink is supposed to have all the links into hamm yet, > > is it? > > I thought I convinced Guy about 2 months ago to make those > links. Guess I was mistaken. i remember the discussion, but the links were never made. i

Re: where is sed in slink?

1998-06-23 Thread Joey Hess
Craig Sanders wrote: > i remember the discussion, but the links were never made. > > i stopped caring about it when i found that apt could use both frozen > and unstablesolves the problem without having to wait for our > overworked ftp site manager. Unfortunately, that doesn't help me, since

Re: Hamm Beta: Delay #1

1998-06-23 Thread Rob Browning
Roberto Lumbreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here you have the log. Thanks. From looking at your log, as I expected, the problem occurs when you try to install emacs20 and cvs-pcl simultaneously. This is because elib is not being properly "configured" (by the emacsen-common script) before cv

Intent to package pavuk

1998-06-23 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Hi, I like to package pavuk. It is a wget like programm with optional GTK interface from http://www.idata.sk/~ondrej/pavuk/ Comments? Ciao, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 11:54:05AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > In both these examples the "cludge" only hangs around for a while, while > the epoch gets stuck on the version forever. Is it really that bad? You said you don't want the clutter of it but I can't really see how there is much clutter.

Re: where is sed in slink?

1998-06-23 Thread Rob Browning
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Unfortunately, that doesn't help me, since mirror can't do things like that > and I need to kep a local mirror for other purposes. Yeah, I had to re-do my whole mirror setup to accomodate this. What I wanted was just an unstable mirror, but I had to switch

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: > There has got to be a better way to deal with this problem (which is > fundamentally a sorting problem). > > Santiago's suggestion of 2.0.7r-1 is more satisfying but, if you > consider the situation, doesn't really resolve the long term problem > any bett

Re: intent to package: rplay

1998-06-23 Thread Joey Hess
This sounds idential to nas, which is already in debian. Is it the same thing? Package: nas Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: sound Installed-Size: 1612 Maintainer: Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Version: 1.2p5-2 Depends: libc6, xlib6g (>= 3.3-5) Conffiles: /etc/init.d/

Re: Intent to package pavuk

1998-06-23 Thread Shaleh
Only that someone else posted their intentions last week. Sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please follow protocol when you announce your Intents to package

1998-06-23 Thread Shaleh
I have seen numerous people post Intentions to package apps that are already being worked on. Please read the wnpp (it is made for a reason). And when you do announce you intentions PLEASE cc wnpp so that it gets added to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

[OFF-TOPIC] UKUUG Linux Developers Event -- Who's going ?

1998-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, Just wondering how many Debianites are signed up to attend the UK Unix User Group's Linux Developers Event this weekend (27-28 June) in Manchester, UK. BTW Anyone that is attending ought to bring a copy of their PGP public key, and proof of ID so we can do some key signing can happen. Cheer

Re: Intent to package pavuk

1998-06-23 Thread Martin Bialasinski
>> "S" == Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: S> Only that someone else posted their intentions last week. Sorry. I am subscribed to debian-devel for a week, so I missed that. But I checked http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html and there is no entry for it. Actually this site look

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Gregory S. Stark
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 11:54:05AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > In both these examples the "cludge" only hangs around for a while, while > > the epoch gets stuck on the version forever. > > Is it really that bad? You said you don't want the clutter

X-tended input

1998-06-23 Thread Chris
Hi all, Where are the extended input modules for X in hamm? I mean the files that lived in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules with bo, like xf86Wacom.so? I need to have that module to run my Wacom tablet! Please get back to me! Thanks very much, Chris ---

Re: X-tended input

1998-06-23 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 02:33:13PM +1000, Chris wrote: > Where are the extended input modules for X in hamm? > > I mean the files that lived in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules with bo, like > xf86Wacom.so? xext -- G. Branden Robinson | Purdue University | The noble soul

Re: intent to package: rplay

1998-06-23 Thread lantz moore
Joey> This sounds idential to nas, which is already in debian. Is it the Joey> same thing? no. while nas and rplay have simliar goals, they are different packages. Joey> Package: nas Joey> Status: install ok installed Joey> Priority: optional Joey> Section: sound Joey> Installed-Size: 1612 Joey

debian-devel@lists.debian.org

1998-06-23 Thread Marco Budde
Hi! I've got a problem compiling csound with libc6. The source includes which is not in libc6-dev, but there's a . I've tried to use this one. But the compiler told me that he don't know the size of struct sgttyb. Any ideas? cu, Marco -- Uni: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailbox: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fi

Re: Please follow protocol when you announce your Intents to package

1998-06-23 Thread Maarten Boekhold
On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Shaleh wrote: > I have seen numerous people post Intentions to package apps that are > already being worked on. Please read the wnpp (it is made for a > reason). And when you do announce you intentions PLEASE cc wnpp so that > it gets added to the list. It probably wouldn't

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Yann Dirson
Dale Scheetz writes: > > > I like Santiago's suggestion better: > > > > > > 2.0.8pre1 => 2.0.7.99.1 > > > 2.0.8pre2 => 2.0.7.99.2 > > >: > > > 2.0.8 => 2.0.8 > > > > > > Which scales properly and solves the problem. > > > > Mmm, well, this was actually suggested by V

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Yann Dirson
Dale Scheetz writes: > In the mean time, unless anyone can object within the next several hours, > I will construct and upload a new release of glibc with the version > number: 2.0.7r-1 I would advise for 2.0.7final instead. IMHO 2.0.7r looks much like an additional patch-level. -- Yann Dirs

Handling of pre/alpha/beta (Was: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...)

1998-06-23 Thread Yann Dirson
For all of you who seem interested by these issues of version numbering, I signal we started not long ago a thread in debian-policy about this. You'll find this under "Summary: dpkg and alpha/beta versioning". I noted some possible ways of dealing with this issue that I did not include in my 1st

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Yann Dirson
Craig Sanders writes: > how about using "2.07pre8-1", "2.07pre8-2", and so on for the next set of > glibc pre-releases? Seems like it doesn't work: $ dpkg --compare-versions 2.07pre8-1 '<<' 2.0.8 && echo yes || echo no no -- Yann Dirson<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Stop making M$-Bill richer & ri

Re: RFC: The BTS, "Severity: Fixed", etc. (Was: An idea for the BTS)

1998-06-23 Thread Yann Dirson
Manoj Srivastava writes: > I think that not only should bugs be marked by the > distributions they exist in, they should also be classified by > architecture; since it is quite possible for a bug to only exist in a > specific arch. This opens to dor for arch specific maintainers; which

Re: RFC: The BTS, "Severity: Fixed", etc. (Was: An idea for the BTS)

1998-06-23 Thread Yann Dirson
Rob Browning writes: > Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [Note: I don't know much about the internals of the BTS; I hope this > > will be accurate enough, though] > > > > * These fields would be named by the codename of the dist > > (eg. `hamm_status') - can this be achieved ea

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
> Here's another reason using the epoch for this situation is bad, if you > continue the process you get something like: > > 2.0.6 > 2.0.7pre1 > 1:2.0.7 > 1:2.0.8pre1 > 2:2.0.8 > 2:2.0.9pre1 > 3:2.0.10 > 3:2.0.10pre1 > 4:2.0.11 > ... No, that's not what happens at all. It's more like this:

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 11:54:05AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > In both these examples the "cludge" only hangs around for a while, while > > the epoch gets stuck on the version forever. > > Is it really that bad? Y

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Dale Scheetz writes: > > In the mean time, unless anyone can object within the next several > > hours, I will construct and upload a new release of glibc with the > > version number: 2.0.7r-1 > I would advise for 2.0.7final instead. IMHO 2.0.7r looks much like an > ad

Re: Upgrade report from "bo" to "hamm" :-(

1998-06-23 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 05:07:37AM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: [...] > The initial update to libc6 via the autoup.sh went very smooth and > flawlessly. I fetched the .deb packages via FTP over a decent > bandwith and this went pretty fast. The bad thing afterwards was the > painfully slo o o o o w

Re: Bug#23742: emacs19 should probably be just "emacs"

1998-06-23 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 21 Jun 1998, Mark W. Eichin wrote: > Perhaps you could review the discussion 6 months ago (or more!) when > we first concluded that this was the *only* way it would work... Is anybody able to do a brief summary, please? If "emacs" is abolished as a virtual p

Re: Hamm Bug Stamp-Out List for June 22, 1998

1998-06-23 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi. Guy Maor said to me a few days ago that he will fix all non-wishlist bugs against ftp.debian.org before release. However, normal bugs against ftp.debian.org are not in the list of "important or higher" bugs. So please include all ftp.debian.org normal bug

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Philip Hands wrote: > Yann Dirson wrote: > > Craig Sanders writes: > > > how about using "2.07pre8-1", "2.07pre8-2", and so on for the > > > next set of glibc pre-releases? > > > > Seems like it doesn't work: > > > > $ dpkg --compare-versions 2.07pre8-1 '<<' 2.0.8 && echo ye

Re: Release management - technical

1998-06-23 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Enrique Zanardi wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 01:38:21PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Enrique Zanardi writes ("Re: Release management - technical"): > > > On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 04:21:57PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > ... > > > > I think we can only do one of these. With hamm we're doing the

Re: RFC: The BTS, "Severity: Fixed", etc. (Was: An idea for the BTS)

1998-06-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I think that not only should bugs be marked by the > distributions they exist in, they should also be classified by > architecture; Actually, I think we can do the same way more efficent. Each bug already has a Version-number. Now we if we add a field F

Bug-System: Why no mail to maintainer on reassign?

1998-06-23 Thread Florian Hinzmann
Hello! When a new bug is reported against a given package, the package maintainer gets this bug report as a personal mail. I consider this really useful as the maintainers don't have to check the bug-lists to know if there are new bug reports against their packages. Later someone will reassign

Re: Bug-System: Why no mail to maintainer on reassign?

1998-06-23 Thread James Troup
Florian Hinzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Later someone will reassign that bug to the correct package, but the > maintainer of that package won't get any mail. That's simply not true. -- James ~Yawn And Walk North~ http://yawn.nocrew.org/ -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Yann Dirson wrote: > Dale Scheetz writes: > > In the mean time, unless anyone can object within the next several hours, > > I will construct and upload a new release of glibc with the version > > number: 2.0.7r-1 > > I would advise for 2.0.7final instead. IMHO 2.0.7r look

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Yann Dirson wrote: > Dale Scheetz writes: > > > > I like Santiago's suggestion better: > > > > > > > >2.0.8pre1 => 2.0.7.99.1 > > > >2.0.8pre2 => 2.0.7.99.2 > > > > : > > > >2.0.8 => 2.0.8 > > > > > > > > Which scales prop

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread James Troup
Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If people weren't being childish about the addition of 2 characters to the > changelog, which the users generally never see, we wouldn't be having this > discussion. [...] > Use the tools provided! > (Sorry for the AOL, but...) Well said; I wish

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 23 Jun 1998, James Troup wrote: > (Sorry for the AOL, but...) Well said; I wish people would get over > their epoch-phobia already. > And I wish people would stop suggesting a poor solution. Epochs are not, were never, intended to be used for this purpose. They are only for dealing with upstr

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 11:23:43AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 11:54:05AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > In both these examples the "cludge" only hangs around for a while, while > > > the epoch gets stuck on the version forever. > > > > Is it really that bad? You said

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 09:52:05AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > If people weren't being childish about the addition of 2 characters to the > changelog, which the users generally never see, we wouldn't be having this > discussion. Well said, Phil. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 08:32:41AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > On 23 Jun 1998, James Troup wrote: > > > (Sorry for the AOL, but...) Well said; I wish people would get over > > their epoch-phobia already. > > > And I wish people would stop suggesting a poor solution. > > Epochs are not, were nev

Re: Bug#23742: emacs19 should probably be just "emacs"

1998-06-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 11:39:31AM +0200, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > Is anybody able to do a brief summary, please? If "emacs" is abolished as > a virtual package name, what is the point in forbidding a package to name > itself as emacs? Because we cannot banish it for all time past. Hamish -

Re: Bug-System: Why no mail to maintainer on reassign?

1998-06-23 Thread Florian Hinzmann
On 23-Jun-98 James Troup wrote: > Florian Hinzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Later someone will reassign that bug to the correct package, but the >> maintainer of that package won't get any mail. > > That's simply not true. I've read some bug reports online containing entries saying "Rep

Debian and gnuhoo.com

1998-06-23 Thread James A . Treacy
Last week I received mail from the people at gnuhoo.com asking that we submit an entry for Debian. It sounded like a good idea and put it (low down) on my list of things to do and didn't give it another thought until today. Slashdot has an article about gnuhoo.com that people might want to read (h

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread James Troup
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 23 Jun 1998, James Troup wrote: > > > (Sorry for the AOL, but...) Well said; I wish people would get > > over their epoch-phobia already. > > And I wish people would stop suggesting a poor solution. How is it a ``poor'' solution? I'll tell you w

Re: Hamm Beta: Delay #1

1998-06-23 Thread Brian White
> Thanks. From looking at your log, as I expected, the problem occurs > when you try to install emacs20 and cvs-pcl simultaneously. This is > because elib is not being properly "configured" (by the emacsen-common > script) before cvs-pcl. This is a bug, but I'm worried about having > time to fix

Including non-PIC code in a shared library?

1998-06-23 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
Hi, I finally got packages of libGGI built and uploaded. I was quite pleased to find that the generic debian/rules that I've been using for the last 9 months really -does- work correctly for multiple binary packages. I always thought it would, but never had a multi-binary package to try it on. ;

xanim plugins

1998-06-23 Thread Igor Grobman
Here is the reply from xanim author regarding xanim plugins. I also tried to prod him for making it free software, but apparently that is not happening because he is making money on xanim. --- Forwarded Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Podlipec) Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subje

Re: Including non-PIC code in a shared library?

1998-06-23 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 03:39:07PM +0100, Charles Briscoe-Smith wrote: > little worried that mixing PIC and non-PIC code might do some other harm. > Does it? Or will it just make this "shared" object unsharable? Everything I've ever heard suggests that the GGI people are correct---it will merely

Offering packages

1998-06-23 Thread Milan Zamazal
I'm offering most of my packages. I will still maintain those of them, which nobody wants to take over. Maintenance of most these packages is trivial, upstream releases are rare. Since some of them are related to Czech, Slovak, or Latin-2 environment, it could be good opportunity for someone fro

JED anyone?

1998-06-23 Thread Milan Zamazal
`jed' is an orphaned package. I'm considering to take its maintanence, since I've found JED is a small and quick start editor, good for quick editing of configuration files, etc. (I've wiped out all vis from my disk, and ae+ed do not satisfy me fully:-). However I'm no way an experienced JED user

Re: Summary[2]: dpkg and alpha/beta versioning

1998-06-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Yann" == Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Yann> Needed: Some technical info about why people consider epochs as bad. Yann> It seems most arguments only used aesthetic reasons. Please someone Yann> correct me if I'm wrong. You'd be hard pressed to find any. One possible r

Re: JED anyone?

1998-06-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On 23 Jun 1998 17:20:09 +0200, Milan Zamazal wrote: >`jed' is an orphaned package. I'm considering to take its maintanence, >since I've found JED is a small and quick start editor, good for quick >editing of configuration files, etc. (I've wiped out all vis from my >disk, and ae+ed do not satisfy

annual update of Maintainer Contacts

1998-06-23 Thread James A . Treacy
As usual, the list of Maintainer Contacts has become a bit dated. Please go through http://www.debian.org/devel/maintainer_contacts.html and report any changes you know of. Also, Bruce was still listed as the contact for hardware donations in donations.html so I changed it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] te

it is your responsibility to provide Debian news

1998-06-23 Thread James A . Treacy
Bruce was very good at making announcements on events affecting Debian. These were the main source of entries to the news section of the web page. Items posted to debian-announce still are included, but their rate is much slower than in the past. If you know of any good Debian news items, please s

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Raul Miller
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How is it a ``poor'' solution? Epochs solve the problem where version prefix b < version prefix a but where b should follow a. The current problem can be solved by a version suffix and therefore does not require an epoch. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 09:52:05AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > If people weren't being childish about the addition of 2 characters to the > > changelog, which the users generally never see, we wouldn't be having this > > discussion. If we could keep this discussion to its technical merits, we

Re: Hamm Beta: Delay #1

1998-06-23 Thread Rob Browning
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just to be sure I understand... emacs20 has to be configured before > cvs-pcl is _installed_ or before cvs-pcl is _configured_? Actually, now it seems like the problem in this case is that cvs-pcl currently has a dependency on emacsen-common rather than

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread James Troup
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The current problem can be solved by a version suffix and therefore > does not require an epoch. Eh? Almost any version-number problem can be solved by a version suffix[1]. What's your point? Are you saying we don't need epochs? Or anyone using epochs

Adding dependency order to emacsen add-on install/remove process

1998-06-23 Thread Rob Browning
Though I think we've found that hamm can get by as is (as long as cvs-pcl, hyperlatex, and elib change their package dependencies), it seems likely that there may be cases in the future where we really do have to account for inter add-on dependencies when ordering the add-on install/remove scripts

Re: Adding dependency order to emacsen add-on install/remove process

1998-06-23 Thread James Troup
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Isn't it true that dpkg ignores the "Depends:" lines when ordering > the configure scripts for these packages? No; it ignores the dependencies when *unpacking* the packages but if foo depends on bar, dpkg will run bar's postinst before foo's. Try it and

Intent to package xruskb and netenv

1998-06-23 Thread Brian Mays
I intend to package two new debs: xruskb and netenv. Package: xruskb Version: 1.5.3-1 Description: An X localized keyboard switch and autolock. Xrus is a utility for switching the keyboard mode between different layouts. While it is intended for switching between latin and russian keybo

Re: Please follow protocol when you announce your Intents to package

1998-06-23 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 10:36:11PM -0400, Shaleh wrote: > I have seen numerous people post Intentions to package apps that are > already being worked on. Please read the wnpp (it is made for a > reason). And when you do announce you intentions PLEASE cc wnpp so that > it gets added to the list.

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Yann Dirson
Dale Scheetz writes: > I like the proposal much better. It also is reasonable enough that even > the glibc upstream maintainer might be encouraged to adopt our numbering > scheme. I integrated this one in my 2nd summary in the "dpkg and alpha/beta versioning" thread in deb-policy. You're welco

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Yann Dirson
Philip Hands writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Dale Scheetz writes: > > > In the mean time, unless anyone can object within the next several > > > hours, I will construct and upload a new release of glibc with the > > > version number: 2.0.7r-1 > > > I would advise for 2.0.7final inst

location of 2.0.7 boot disks

1998-06-23 Thread Douglas Bates
I don't see the 2.0.7 boot disks for an i386 system on master.debian.org yet. Could someone please remind me where to get them from Enrique's computer? I don't seem to have that message any more. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 08:32:41AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > On 23 Jun 1998, James Troup wrote: > > > > > (Sorry for the AOL, but...) Well said; I wish people would get over > > > their epoch-phobia already. > > > > > And I wish people would stop

Re: JED anyone?

1998-06-23 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 08:47:53AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On 23 Jun 1998 17:20:09 +0200, Milan Zamazal wrote: > > >`jed' is an orphaned package. I'm considering to take its maintanence, > >since I've found JED is a small and quick start editor, good for quick > >editing of configuration files

Re: Please follow protocol when you announce your Intents to package

1998-06-23 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 10:36:11PM -0400, Shaleh wrote: > I have seen numerous people post Intentions to package apps that are > already being worked on. Please read the wnpp (it is made for a > reason). And when you do announce you intentions PLEASE cc wnpp so that > it gets added to the list.

Re: Summary[2]: dpkg and alpha/beta versioning

1998-06-23 Thread Raul Miller
"Yann" == Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yann> Needed: Some technical info about why people consider epochs as bad. > Yann> It seems most arguments only used aesthetic reasons. Please someone > Yann> correct me if I'm wrong. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You'd

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Raul Miller
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eh? Almost any version-number problem can be solved by a version > suffix[1]. Not where 1.0 follows 3.14, for example. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread James Troup
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eh? Almost any version-number problem can be solved by a version > > suffix[1]. > > Not where 1.0 follows 3.14, for example. You clearly can, as I demonstrated in my footnote. Anyway, this is obviously somewha

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Yann Dirson wrote: > Dale Scheetz writes: > > I like the proposal much better. It also is reasonable enough that even > > the glibc upstream maintainer might be encouraged to adopt our numbering > > scheme. > > I integrated this one in my 2nd summary in the "dpkg and alpha

Re: location of 2.0.7 boot disks

1998-06-23 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 12:26:58PM -0500, Douglas Bates wrote: > I don't see the 2.0.7 boot disks for an i386 system on > master.debian.org yet. Could someone please remind me where to get > them from Enrique's computer? I don't seem to have that message any > more. I'm uploading them to master

Re: Adding dependency order to emacsen add-on install/remove process

1998-06-23 Thread Rob Browning
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No; it ignores the dependencies when *unpacking* the packages but if > foo depends on bar, dpkg will run bar's postinst before foo's. Try it > and see. OK, that makes sense. Then I suppose that the only place that the dependency ordering is needed is in

Re: Please follow protocol when you announce your Intents to package

1998-06-23 Thread Jules Bean
--On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 6:47 pm +0100 "Adrian Bridgett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 10:36:11PM -0400, Shaleh wrote: >> I have seen numerous people post Intentions to package apps that are >> already being worked on. Please read the wnpp (it is made for a >> reason). And

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Jules Bean
--On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 2:19 pm -0400 "Dale Scheetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I integrated this one in my 2nd summary in the "dpkg and alpha/beta >> versioning" thread in deb-policy. You're welcomed to comment other >> points there ! >> > I bearly have the time to keep up with debian-devel,

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 23 Jun 1998, James Troup wrote: > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The current problem can be solved by a version suffix and therefore > > does not require an epoch. > > Eh? Almost any version-number problem can be solved by a version > suffix

Re: RFC: The BTS, "Severity: Fixed", etc. (Was: An idea for the BTS)

1998-06-23 Thread Dan Jacobowitz
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 12:38:19PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > I think that not only should bugs be marked by the > > distributions they exist in, they should also be classified by > > architecture; > > Actually, I think we can do the same way more

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Raul Miller
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Not where 1.0 follows 3.14, for example. James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You clearly can, as I demonstrated in my footnote. No. If your footnote was applicable at all, it was not providing a suffix to the current version number. Instead it was

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Raul Miller
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Using epochs is adding things "to the left", while using prefixes is > adding things "to the right". Most of your message was accurate, but I have a minor technical nit here: prefixes, including epochs, are both "to the left". suffixes are "to the right

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Jules Bean
--On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 2:59 pm -0400 "Raul Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Anyway, this is obviously somewhat of a religious issue, and having >> said that I whole heartedly agree with Manoj (that there are *zero* >> technical arguments against epochs), I will now shut up and ignore >> this

Re: location of 2.0.7 boot disks

1998-06-23 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On 23 Jun 1998, Douglas Bates wrote: > I don't see the 2.0.7 boot disks for an i386 system on > master.debian.org yet. Could someone please remind me where to get > them from Enrique's computer? I don't seem to have that message any > more. I believe it is in: ftp://molec2.dfis.ull.es/pub/debia

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Jules Bean wrote: > --On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 2:19 pm -0400 "Dale Scheetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> I integrated this one in my 2nd summary in the "dpkg and alpha/beta > >> versioning" thread in deb-policy. You're welcomed to comment other > >> points there ! > >>

Re: location of 2.0.7 boot disks

1998-06-23 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 03:01:53PM -0400, Brandon Mitchell wrote: > On 23 Jun 1998, Douglas Bates wrote: > > > I don't see the 2.0.7 boot disks for an i386 system on > > master.debian.org yet. Could someone please remind me where to get > > them from Enrique's computer? I don't seem to have that

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Raul Miller wrote: > Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Using epochs is adding things "to the left", while using prefixes is > > adding things "to the right". Ooops! I meant *suffixes* here, of course! [ Thanks for the correction

Re: Upgrade report from "bo" to "hamm" :-(

1998-06-23 Thread Dan Jacobowitz
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 08:09:51PM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: > Actually the true killer was the upgrade of the teTeX packages. It is > pretty hard to stand seeing three time in a row "Running initex [...] > This will take some time" on a 486DX-2/66 at the configuration stage. > This alone consumed

Anyone at Rice University?

1998-06-23 Thread Robert Edmonds
Are there any Debian users/developers at Rice University in Houstin, Texas? My cousin came back home for summer vacation and I've set up his computer running Debian. However, it's got an Ethernet card (EtherLink III - set it up fine with the 3c509 module) and someone's going to have to set it up to

Re: Offering packages

1998-06-23 Thread Martin Bialasinski
>> "MZ" == Milan Zamazal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MZ> x11/xtoolwait - serializing startup of X applications I can take this package, if there are no objections. Ciao, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMA

Re: JED anyone?

1998-06-23 Thread Yann Dirson
Milan Zamazal writes: > `jed' is an orphaned package. I'm considering to take its maintanence, > since I've found JED is a small and quick start editor, good for quick > editing of configuration files, etc. (I've wiped out all vis from my > disk, and ae+ed do not satisfy me fully:-). However

Re: RFC: The BTS, "Severity: Fixed", etc. (Was: An idea for the BTS)

1998-06-23 Thread Yann Dirson
Wichert Akkerman writes: > Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >I think that not only should bugs be marked by the > > distributions they exist in, they should also be classified by > > architecture; > > Actually, I think we can do the same way more efficent. Each bug already > has a

[OFF-TOPIC] hmm, that didn't work. (WAS: Anyone at Rice University?)

1998-06-23 Thread Anderson MacKay
As stated below, I'm enrolled at Rice, although I've been on leave this past semester. A direct reply to the original message didn't work, so I'm sending this all back to the list in hopes it gets to the right place. Anyone else who wants to comment -- feel free, but I doubt most of it is of any

Re: JED anyone?

1998-06-23 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 05:20:09PM +0200, Milan Zamazal wrote: > `jed' is an orphaned package. I'm considering to take its maintanence, > since I've found JED is a small and quick start editor, good for quick > editing of configuration files, etc. (I've wiped out all vis from my disk, > and ae+ed

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Lalo Martins
On Jun 23, Philip Hands decided to present us with: > > 1:2.0.8-0pre1.1 > 1:2.0.8-0pre1.2 > 1:2.0.8-0pre1.2.1 (NMU) > 1:2.0.8-1 > > etc. No, that's very bad, because it implies that the upstream source is the same and the only difference is in the Debian packaging. Wrong. > I think we ne

xterm-debian terminfo entry

1998-06-23 Thread Alexander E. Apke
Now that debian is going to be using a nonstandard terminfo entry for xterms, can the default colors be setup like a normal linux console, black background with white foreground. I liked this when the xterm was setup this way a while back. I believe the reason for switching back t

Re: xterm-debian terminfo entry

1998-06-23 Thread Dan Jacobowitz
Or at least offer an xterm-cons or xterm-black-bg. Also, could someone PLEASE figure out the remaining options to make xterm behave graphically like a console? I can't get the combination of bold and 16 colors to work correctly. Dan On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 05:43:54PM -0500, Alexander E. Apke w

Re: 19980623 Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1998-06-23 Thread Yann Dirson
Well, after receiving the 2 latest WNPP listings, I finally found that what I liked best in the previous ones was the "changes from last version" section. The full list may be some bandwidth waste for many people I think. What about only mailing the changes, and pointing to the WWW site for the f

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Bob Nielsen
Well, libc6 (etc.) 2.07r-1 has now moved to some of the mirrors, but apt-get (apt 0.0.16-1) refuses to get the packages. Dselect DOES show show these as updated packages, however, but using the apt method still refuses to get them: --- Updated Required packages in section base --- **

Re: Adding dependency order to emacsen add-on install/remove process

1998-06-23 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 23 Jun 1998, Rob Browning wrote: > Isn't it true that dpkg ignores the "Depends:" lines when ordering the > configure scripts for these packages? If so, then the cvs-pcl > configure step, if it goes first, would fail. So what's the solution? No, it isn't. dpkg orders configure - it does not

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