(fwd) cutils version 1.5.2 - C language miscellaneous utilities

1997-12-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I had a quick look in the Contents file (on www.debian.org) and couldn't find this, so I might have a hack at a package unless anyone else is keener. hamish -- forwarded message -- Path: goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.uwa.edu.au!news.waia.asn

What, why, where, utmp?

1997-12-04 Thread Dale Scheetz
One of my "gaping holes of ignorance" has to do with utmp entries; what they are, why are they gone, where is the package that creates them? I know that one of the latest "fixes" to dpkg-buildpackage deals with the lack of utmp entries, but don't understand why they were abandoned. I just discove

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Dec-1997 12:45:31, Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has much discussion been had about a possible configuration file > management script for the package config scripts to use? > > For example, I installed cron on a Debian box, and then installed mgetty. > Mgetty placed the follow

H.323 status

1997-12-04 Thread Adam Heath
First, a little history. As I am sure we all know, Linux currently does not support masquerading of video conferencing protocols, including H.323. There are partial solutions using IPPORTFW, but none that work transparently. So, a few weeks ago I started research into this project. I found that

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That said, it appears that the only policy compliant way for a package > to run a script more frequently than once a day is to register a user, > and create a crontab for that user. This is not too onerous for > news or sendmail, but seems like overkill

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Greenland wrote: > That said, it appears that the only policy compliant way for a package > to run a script more frequently than once a day is to register a user, > and create a crontab for that user. This is not too onerous for > news or sendmail, but seems like overkill for every little pac

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Joey Hess
Raul Miller wrote: > Creating a user shouldn't be that big of a deal, as long as it's a > useful abstraction. Having a user for a fax system seems apropriate. Having a user for mrtg doesn't seem very appropriate to me, though. Mrtg is a simple program, that needs to run every 5 minutes. A user is

Re: Mailinglists documented

1997-12-04 Thread Joey Hess
Yann Dirson wrote: > One nice thing would be to document a way for anyone to know which > debian lists he's currently subscribed to. > > Is there such a mechanism, or is there only this stuff (what's its > name, anyway ?) to be run on master to get the info ? I know there's a way that Pete Templi

EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Just to let everyone know, EGCS has very recently (hours) just put out their first release! ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.0 It contians it's own integrated libstdc++, libg++ is not supported right now and is obscolecent. Jason -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail

going to package e

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
I intend to package the beta enlightenment window manager, imlib, and the default themes. If anyone wants to do it instead, I'll happily fall back to kibitz mode -- let me know. -- Raul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-

Re: H.323 status

1997-12-04 Thread Mark W. Eichin
You might look at the rsalabs web site; there's an "introduction to asn.1" document there which is quite thorough, despite the name, though if I remember correctly it only describes one of BER or DER, whichever PKCS actually use. It might be worth a look. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having a user for mrtg doesn't seem very appropriate to me, though. > Mrtg is a simple program, that needs to run every 5 minutes. A user is > overkill. If a user is overkill then cron probably is too. You'd probably do fine with something like ( tr

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Adam Heath
-Original Message- From: Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Date: Wednesday, December 03, 1997 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Config file management utility >On 02-Dec-1997 12:45:31, Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Has much discussion been had abou

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Joey Hess
Raul Miller wrote: > If a user is overkill then cron probably is too. You'd probably do > fine with something like > > ( > trap "" SIGHUP > su nobody -c ' > while sleep 300; do > whatever; > done /dev/null 2>&1

Re: EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > Just to let everyone know, EGCS has very recently (hours) just put out > their first release! > > ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.0 > > It contians it's own integrated libstdc++, true > libg++ is not supported right now and is obsco

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Rob Browning
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Another way, that sould comply with policy, were if cron came with a > update-crontab script, that was responsible for modifying /etc/crontab, > in a similar fasion to update-inetd. I think that this, or something similar, is in the end, the right solution.

Re: EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Oleg Krivosheev wrote: > > libg++ is not supported right now and is obscolecent. > > it's a bit misleading. It's not integrated into > tarball, but it's quite good piece of C++ codeand > can be compiled by EGCS. HJ has it packed separately > somewhere Ah, well any code that

[Q] Standard way to force libc5-compat?

1997-12-04 Thread Benjamin Redelings I
Hi, I successfully upgraded to hamm from a very recent CD. I've got netscape, Realplayer, mxaudio, & lots of other non-debian stuff working (2.0.33-pre-1 :), so the distribution seems to be working pretty well. However, there ARE some bugs, of course. I'll report them here later...is thi

Re: going to package e

1997-12-04 Thread Jim Pick
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I intend to package the beta enlightenment window manager, imlib, and > the default themes. If anyone wants to do it instead, I'll happily > fall back to kibitz mode -- let me know. Lalo Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did a package of beta 12, back in Augu

I plan on packaging sane

1997-12-04 Thread Kevin Dalley
I plan to package sane, an API for scanners, in the very near future. -- Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

isdnutils/diald/ppp - hangs on authentication request

1997-12-04 Thread Oliver Elphick
I have an internal ISDN card using the HiSax driver and isdnutils; the kernel is 2.0.31 + patches (equivalent, I think, to 2.0.32) Versions: ii isdnutils 2.1.beta1-16 isdn utilities ii ppp 2.3.1-6Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. ii diald 0.16.4-10

Re: predepends on libc6?

1997-12-04 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Bdale Garbee wrote: > In bug report 15091, Christian Meder suggests to me that I make gzip predepend > on libc6. It is not clear to me that this is a good thing to do. [ I think it is a good thing to do, so I have changed the severity to "

Re: What, why, where, utmp?

1997-12-04 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >One of my "gaping holes of ignorance" has to do with utmp entries; what >they are, why are they gone, where is the package that creates them? An utmp entry is an entry in a fixed-size binary database located in /var/run/utmp.

where is any_d.b

1997-12-04 Thread Michael Meskes
It disappeared on my system. Is it in a different package nowadays? Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 52146 Wuerselen Go SF49ers! Go Rhein Fire!

Re: going to package e

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lalo Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did a package of beta 12, back in > August, but he didn't upload it since he was waiting for developer > status. I wonder what happened? Did we lose another one? I was going to pick it up from him, but... > Anyways, his old p

libc5

1997-12-04 Thread Michael Meskes
How come this packaged hasn't been updated for a while. Since H.J. Lu is adding more and more libc6 compatibility changes I think it makes sense to stay up-to-date with libc5, too. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]|

Re: Intent to package: umich-ldap / WNPP: Dermot Bradley probably not maintaining packages

1997-12-04 Thread Dermot John Bradley
On 3 Dec 1997, Ed Donovan wrote: > I think Dermot Bradley isn't actively maintaining packages. I sent mail > to one of his addresses, about packaging gated, a while back. I didn't > hear from him, though I saw gated came off the WNPP list under his name > later on. His packages in the archive a

Re: where is any_d.b

1997-12-04 Thread Scott Ellis
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Michael Meskes wrote: > It disappeared on my system. Is it in a different package nowadays? I believe lilo20 obsoleted it. Check out the lilo docs. -- Scott K. Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST:

Re: Intent to package: umich-ldap / WNPP: Dermot Bradley probably not maintaining packages

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Dermot John Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW Can anyone tell me how to create a package based on pristine source > using debmake? >From www.debian.org, hit "developers corner". Then, start with Creating a Package using Debmake, after that, hit New-Maintainer's Debian Packaging Howto. Get y

Re: `COAS'

1997-12-04 Thread Behan Webster
Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > > Perhaps Diety should become a part of that? *sigh*... not diety, Deity. ^^ I wish people would learn to spell. This is one of the exceptions to the "i before e" rule. Behan -- Behan Webster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-613-224-7547 ht

Re: libc5

1997-12-04 Thread Richard Braakman
Michael Meskes wrote: > How come this packaged hasn't been updated for a while. Since H.J. Lu is > adding more and more libc6 compatibility changes I think it makes sense to > stay up-to-date with libc5, too. I haven't heard anything from Helmut Geyer in months, except for a message on Sep 24 sayi

Re: EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Brian White
> Just to let everyone know, EGCS has very recently (hours) just put out > their first release! > > ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.0 > > It contians it's own integrated libstdc++, libg++ is not supported right > now and is obscolecent. Interesting. I didn't think it was a Cygnu

Re: not a first amendment question

1997-12-04 Thread Brian White
> Brian> Morality is a touchy subject and (in my opinion) the _only_ place to > Brian> draw this line is all or nothing. > > Agreed, except that clearly illegal stuff should be banned, of > course. I doubt anyone would condone a child_pornography.deb package, > for instance :-) Yes, "the law" is

Re: be careful with Replaces, please

1997-12-04 Thread Brian White
> > Nope, didn't seem to be flagged for install on my end. I would have > > suggested keeping the same name and conflicting with the versions of dump > > and quota that would have depended on the libraries. > > OK. I think I'll change the name back to "e2fsprogs", and just make it > conflict w

Re: EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Scott Ellis
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Brian White wrote: > > Just to let everyone know, EGCS has very recently (hours) just put out > > their first release! > > > > ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.0 > > > > It contians it's own integrated libstdc++, libg++ is not supported right > > now and is obs

master's Incoming and 2.0 release date

1997-12-04 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hello everyone, don't you think that having master's Incoming directory full of new packages that haven't been integrated to hamm may delay 2.0 release? I know Guy is having problems with his Internet connection but wouldn't it be nice if we had more people taking care of Incoming? What do you t

Re: `COAS'

1997-12-04 Thread Stephen Zander
Behan Webster wrote: > *sigh*... not diety, Deity. >^^ > I wish people would learn to spell. This is one of the exceptions to > the "i before e" rule. That's what comes from people not learning Latin at school anymore :) Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion."

Who's root on Master?

1997-12-04 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
Hello, I need to have my password changed in master, who is in charge of maintaining the user accounts there? thanks, -- |\/| /\ ( /\ |\| ' +---Eduardo-Marcel-Macan---+ thes

Re: EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Brian White wrote: > > Just to let everyone know, EGCS has very recently (hours) just put out > > their first release! > > > > ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.0 > > > > It contians it's own integrated libstdc++, libg++ is not supported right > > now and is o

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Joe Emenaker
On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Adam Heath wrote: > How about this. Some one creates a script, that is run from /etc/crontab. > Whenever this script is run, it checks to see if another program is supposed > to be run. If so, it does it, then checks to see when the next script is > supposed to run. It the

Re: [H.323] H.323 status

1997-12-04 Thread Al Youngwerth
At 08:39 PM 12/3/97 -0500, Adam Heath wrote: >First, a little history. > >As I am sure we all know, Linux currently does not support masquerading of video >conferencing protocols, including H.323. There are partial solutions using >IPPORTFW, but none that work transparently. > >So, a few weeks ago

Re: `COAS'

1997-12-04 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
Behan Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[Anon wrote:] >> Perhaps Diety should become a part of that? > >*sigh*... not diety, Deity. > ^^ Diety, of course, meaning "of or like a diet". In the same vein as "boxy". At least, that's what I think every time someone spells it

Re: bo-updates packages

1997-12-04 Thread Steve Greenland
On 04-Dec-1997 14:08:59, Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) writes: > Well, this temporary problem lasts since quite a while now and i fear > that it will last for quite a while longer. I don't expect Debian-2.0 > to happen earlier than somewhere at the end of j

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Joe Emenaker
On 3 Dec 1997, Rob Browning wrote: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Another way, that sould comply with policy, were if cron came with a > > update-crontab script, that was responsible for modifying /etc/crontab, > > in a similar fasion to update-inetd. > > I think that this, or s

Re: master's Incoming and 2.0 release date

1997-12-04 Thread James Troup
"Eloy A. Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I know Guy is having problems with his Internet connection but > wouldn't it be nice if we had more people taking care of Incoming? Guy is back in some form, at least he just dealt with a whole host of bugs filed against ftp.debian.org. Martin and I

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only problem is that it uses Perl. I haven't read the Debian policies > so I don't know if Perl (or a stripped down version of it) is one of the > things I can assume is on even the most minimal system. If not, I can do > the same thing with bash/sed, I

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Rob Browning
Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, that's pretty much what I was suggesting in the beginning. The only > difference is that you wouldn't have one, monolithic section. Rather, > you'd have sections placed there by the individual packages. For example: The only advantage to the monoli

Linking (ld) problem with package.

1997-12-04 Thread Rob Browning
I'm trying to improve some stuff in the rscheme package, and I have several shared libraries (for rscheme internal use only), that I need to glom together into one big shared library -- i.e. I want the collected library to contain all the code from the sub-libraries -- no dynamic links to any of t

Re: (fwd) cutils version 1.5.2 - C language miscellaneous utilities

1997-12-04 Thread Yann Dirson
Hamish Moffatt writes: > ctangle and cweave - simple literate C programming tools These are already part of the "cweb" package. If there're different, you may use alternatives ? -- Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Stop making M$-Bill richer & richer, alt-email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Will dump work with disks over 2Gb?

1997-12-04 Thread Oliver Elphick
With the latest version of dump, I tried to backup my new 4.5Gb disk to DAT tape: linda# /sbin/dump 0nufB /dev/st0 1365000 /usr1 DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Thu Dec 4 22:46:30 1997 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/sdb1 (/usr1) to /dev/st0 DUMP: mapping (P