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and subject line Re: Bug#994904: general: Wayland-Gnome-freeze in VMware when
automatic ungrab while scrolling
has caused the Debian Bug report #994904,
regarding general: Wayland-Gnome-freeze in VMware when automatic ungrab
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and subject line RE: Bug#1108643: Trixie Keyboard Shortcut Issues within VMWare
has caused the Debian Bug report #1108643,
regarding in VMware with open-vm-tools-desktop, XFCE becomes unresponsive after
repeated copy/paste
to be
On 2025-07-16 10:49, Simon McVittie wrote:
I don't use VMware myself (most Debian developers probably do not) so
this will probably have to be investigated further by someone who does.
If the log has evidence of a problem with open-vm-tools, then this bug
can/should be assigned to
2 installed.
I then purge 'open-vm-tools' and 'open-vm-tools-desktop' and reboot Trixie to
see if they are causing the issue and once again I can break the desktop. This
maybe suggests it's not a VMWare tools issue but hard to know as the logs
aren't giving me much
Hi,
* don't install vmware tools and open-vm-tools at the same time, they
are the same thing.
* did you install open-vm-tools-desktop? if not, do it.
A quick look into the open-vm-tools code shows that wayland doesn't seem
to be properly supported, it should not do anything then
Okay I removed VMware tools as requested too. I thought we had it cracked then
as the Ctrl-C took a lot more of them, maybe 30 then it froze again. The crash
happened at 10:45 before the gap in the logs below. Not sure they provide much
info which is annoying.
david@debian:~$ sudo journalctl
these logs in a text file or something else let me know and I
will try your vmware tools removal test at some point too.
Cheers
david@debian:~$ sudo journalctl -f
[sudo] password for david:
Jul 16 10:06:12 debian systemd[1]: user-106.slice: Consumed 2.224s CPU time,
101.9M memory peak.
Jul 1
Control: retitle -1 in VMware with open-vm-tools-desktop, XFCE becomes
unresponsive after repeated copy/paste
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 08:13:03 +, David Kennedy wrote:
after a few Ctrl-C keystrokes it crashes something and I can't use my mouse or
keyboard, and worth noting that these
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> retitle -1 in VMware with open-vm-tools-desktop, XFCE becomes unresponsive
> after repeated copy/paste
Bug #1108643 [general] Trixie Keyboard Shortcut Issues within VMWare
Changed Bug title to 'in VMware with open-vm-tools-desktop, XFCE becomes
unrespo
hich Cyril seems to
have found they do in this message:
Seen in hw-detect's hw-detect.finish-install.d/08hw-detect:
case "$(detect_virt)" in
vmware)
if detect_desktop; then
apt-install --with-recommends open-vm-tools-desktop
Simon McVittie (2025-07-15):
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 at 18:27:46 +, David Kennedy wrote:
> > I am finding that it is consistently easy to crash [a VMWare VM] just
> > doing Ctrl-C many time
>
> Does this VM have some sort of VMware "guest agent" installed, li
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 at 18:27:46 +, David Kennedy wrote:
I am finding that it is consistently easy to crash [a VMWare VM] just
doing Ctrl-C many time
Does this VM have some sort of VMware "guest agent" installed, like a
VMware equivalent of the functionality of qemu-guest
could still see those CRON notifications appear as I was tailing journalctl
even though I couldn’t access the desktop anymore with my keyboard or mouse on
my VMWare virtual machine.
Jul 15 19:06:24 debian dunst[2354]: WARNING: Icon 'dialog-information' not
found in themes
Jul 15 19:04:38
t: RE: Bug#1108643: Trixie Keyboard Shortcut Issues within VMWare
Just attaching the logs for what happened at exactly the time it crashed.
Hopefully ii might help you reassign it to a package or a person who knows this
area. It is a VM so I can go back to the intial snapshot and try
ect: Re: Bug#1108643: Trixie Keyboard Shortcut Issues within VMWare
On 7/2/25 09:34, David Kennedy wrote:
> Package: general
>
> Version: Unknown
>
>
>
> I am not sure about the package I’m afraid and I did email debian-user
> for advice as per this “If you are unable t
user mailing list <mailto:debian-u...@lists.debian.org> asking
for advice.” but wasn’t informed so will leave it as ‘general’ I think.
I've installed Trixie RC1 a few times over the past week in VMWare
Workstation Pro and noticed a recurring issue.
I noticed that it sometimes struggle
ilto:debian-u...@lists.debian.org> asking for advice." but wasn't
informed so will leave it as 'general' I think.
I've installed Trixie RC1 a few times over the past week in VMWare Workstation
Pro and noticed a recurring issue.
I noticed that it sometimes struggles with what I
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Dear Maintainer,
I installed Debian 11 in VMware Player 16.1.2 build-17966106 running on Windows
10. Most things are fine, tools are automatically
installed. While working I discovered random freezes of the gnome
ot let me install vmware tools)
This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report
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On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 12:32:52PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> If it were just the VMware issue, then my inclination would be to leave
> OpenSSH as it is: it's proprietary software and the only leverage we
> have to get them to fix it is to have their customers complaining.
A V
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 12:27:47PM +0200, Christian Ehrhardt wrote:
> This is related, but not the same as [1] and about the new defaults in
> regard to QoS.
> Due to upstream change [2] the new defaults now mean that ssh is
> broken if connecting to (or through) a system runni
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Would you be interested in acquiring VMware contact list for marketing or
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We can segment Industry List & Technology Users List by C-level, VP-level,
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> reassign 711477 gstreamer0.10
Bug #711477 [general] general: Videos are not visible in VMware Workstation
Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'gstreamer0.10'.
Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #71
t;
cause by running as a VMware client
On Freitag, 7. Juni 2013, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Package: general
> Severity: normal
>
> Dear Maintainer,
>
> I've installed Debian 7 as a guest OS in VMware 9.0.2, which is running in
> a Gentoo Linux AMD64 host. Trying t
Control: tag -1 + moreinfo
What is your x server ?
Le 7 juin 2013 09:15, "Nikos Chantziaras" a écrit :
> Package: general
> Severity: normal
>
> Dear Maintainer,
>
> I've installed Debian 7 as a guest OS in VMware 9.0.2, which is running in
> a
> Gentoo
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Bug #711477 [general] general: Videos are not visible in VMware Workstation
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Dear Maintainer,
I've installed Debian 7 as a guest OS in VMware 9.0.2, which is running in a
Gentoo Linux AMD64 host. Trying to play videos in any software that uses
GStreamer results in the audio being played normally, but the video is not
visible. Inste
On Wed, February 15, 2012 16:40, Piotrek P wrote:
> Dear All,
> Please be aware that VMware ESX 3.5 is NOT supporting any of Debian as
> Guest OS.
> Please be aware that VMware ESXi 4.1 IS supporting Debian 4.0, 5.0 as
> Guest OS.
> Please be aware that VMware ESX 5.0 IS supporti
Le 15 février 2012 16:40, Piotrek P a écrit :
> Dear All,
Hi,
> Please be aware that VMware ESX 3.5 is NOT supporting any of Debian as Guest
> OS.
> Please be aware that VMware ESXi 4.1 IS supporting Debian 4.0, 5.0 as Guest
> OS.
> Please be aware that VMware ESX 5.0 IS sup
Hello,
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:40:03 +0100
Piotrek P wrote:
> Dear All,
> Please be aware that VMware ESX 3.5 is NOT supporting any of Debian
> as Guest OS. Please be aware that VMware ESXi 4.1 IS supporting
> Debian 4.0, 5.0 as Guest OS. Please be aware that VMware ESX 5.0 IS
Dear All,
Please be aware that VMware ESX 3.5 is NOT supporting any of Debian as Guest OS.
Please be aware that VMware ESXi 4.1 IS supporting Debian 4.0, 5.0 as Guest OS.
Please be aware that VMware ESX 5.0 IS supporting Debian 4.0, 5.0, 6.0
as Guest OS.
I would like to ask:
- What does it means
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On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 09:04:44PM -0400, Tong Sun wrote:
> > > Thanks a lot, that's already good enough for me. Please tell me,
> > ...but please don't tell debian-devel. (MFT set)
> Sorry, but I really can't get it.
He means that this has nothing to do with Debian development, so the
appropria
On 10/10/2010 08:04 PM, Tong Sun wrote:
> > Thanks a lot, that's already good enough for me. Please tell me,
>
> ...but please don't tell debian-devel. (MFT set)
Sorry, but I really can't get it. All over the web, people from other
distros are sharing how they can beat it, but I just can't fi
> > Thanks a lot, that's already good enough for me. Please tell me,
>
> ...but please don't tell debian-devel. (MFT set)
Sorry, but I really can't get it. All over the web, people from other
distros are sharing how they can beat it, but I just can't find a single
post from Debian people how they
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:02:45AM -0400, Tong Sun wrote:
> Thanks a lot, that's already good enough for me. Please tell me,
...but please don't tell debian-devel. (MFT set)
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> . . . If anyone can get VmWare-Workstation 7 installed on
> Debian (Testing/Sid), I would very much like to hear your story.
>
> I installed it last week, v7.1.2. I had no trouble, worked like a
> charm. Just invoked the installer. I did invoke it as root. I
> really can
If anyone can get VmWare-Workstation 7 installed on
Debian (Testing/Sid), I would very much like to hear your story.
Thanks a lot.
I installed it last week, v7.1.2. I had no trouble, worked like a
charm. Just invoked the installer. I did invoke it as root. I really
can't be
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> I'm having difficulties installing Vmware v71 under Debian Testing.
>> I always get
>>
>> gcc and kernel headers must be installed
>>
>> while doing "vmware-modconfig --console --install-all"
[4th attempt, trying to play with keywords to circumvent the spam filter]
Hi,
I'm having difficulties installing Vmware v71 under Debian Testing.
I always get
gcc and kernel headers must be installed
while doing "vmware-modconfig --console --install-all", even though
I got both
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On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 10:14:45AM +0100, Hans Kratz wrote:
> >No, it can build vmware-player .debs as well. I'll fix the wrong
>
> Ah, I see. I will take a look at vmware-package. Do you plan on
> supporting VMware Server as well?
As it is documented in the package docs,
Hi!
No, it can build vmware-player .debs as well. I'll fix the wrong
Ah, I see. I will take a look at vmware-package. Do you plan on
supporting VMware Server as well?
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On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 06:46:18PM +0100, Hans Kratz wrote:
> Sure. I wasn't aware of that package. AFAICS that package handles only
> the VMware kernel modules right now.
No, it can build vmware-player .debs as well. I'll fix the wrong
description in svn.
Hi!
HK> After repeatedly seeing interest in VMware Player packages for
HK> Debian I decided to post my work on packaging VMware Player. It
HK> should work fine on sarge and sid. Currently only i386 is
HK> supported, support for x86-64 is on my TODO list.
That was supposed t
Twas brillig at 12:27:07 when Hans Kratz did gyre and gimble:
HK> After repeatedly seeing interest in VMware Player packages for
HK> Debian I decided to post my work on packaging VMware Player. It
HK> should work fine on sarge and sid. Currently only i386 is
HK> supported, suppor
Hi!
After repeatedly seeing interest in VMware Player packages for Debian
I decided to post my work on packaging VMware Player. It should work
fine on sarge and sid. Currently only i386 is supported, support for
x86-64 is on my TODO list.
Licensing and distribution:
The VMware Player EULA does
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* Uwe Hermann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 01:36:35PM +0300, Linas ??virblis wrote:
> > Oh come one guys. So instead of providing QEMU + QEMU Acclerator, a
> > partially free solution, we just go for totally non-free one? VMware was
> &g
Hi,
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 01:36:35PM +0300, Linas ??virblis wrote:
> Oh come one guys. So instead of providing QEMU + QEMU Acclerator, a
> partially free solution, we just go for totally non-free one? VMware was
> not an option when there actually was no alternative to it, so why i
Marc Haber wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:03:31 +0200, Bernd Schubert
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Ubuntu already has vmware kernel module packages
>
> Yes, but adapting them to Debian seems to be nontrivial. I have not
> yet been able to get them build on Debi
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:03:31 +0200, Bernd Schubert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ubuntu already has vmware kernel module packages
Yes, but adapting them to Debian seems to be nontrivial. I have not
yet been able to get them build on Debian.
Greet
Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:06:59 +0100, Peter Collingbourne
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
>>repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create
>>a tool that will build
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:06:59 +0100, Peter Collingbourne
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
>repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create
>a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-ser
On Sunday 13 August 2006 09:18, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > * using snapshots and clones based off them are quite useful
>
> Lvm snapshots work just fine.
You've obviously never run VMware if you think that an LVM snapshot is a
replacement for a VMWare snapshot. It lea
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 01:59:57AM +0100, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:25:59AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit :
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I found there were no VMw
At 1155469573 past the epoch, martin f krafft wrote:
> Why don't those that want to work with QEMU do that, and
> those who want to work with VMware worry about its
> packaging?
>
> I can't believe we're having this discussion anyway.
It would make sense for each te
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, [UTF-8] Linas Žvirblis wrote:
maybe not with a so nice UI than vmware, but that is definitely
writeable IMHO.
That is being worked on as I type this.
OT, but does anybody know whether I can operate on VMs in
VMware without this fancy UI? I just want to turn on two VMs
On Aug 13, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you aren't running windows then xen is your free alternative. If
> you need windows then you need a recent cpu for xen+windows.
I always love when somebody knows what I need...
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Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>> Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit :
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
>
also sprach Sebastian Harl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.1658 +0100]:
> There is vim available from Debian repositories as well as emacs.
Yes, but emacs will be removed.
(this is a reply-to experiment)
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Hi,
> > vmware
>
> QEMU:
I really don't get this (type of) discussion...
Some people prefer qemu, some others vmware, still others prefer foo.
There is vim available from Debian repositories as well as emacs. You can
install KDE as well as Gnome, fvwm, ... why not provid
Peter Collingbourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
> repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create
> a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server
> and vmware-modules-sou
Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> maybe not with a so nice UI than vmware, but that is definitely
> writeable IMHO.
That is being worked on as I type this.
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Le dim 13 août 2006 15:24, Adrian von Bidder a écrit :
> On Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit :
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the offic
Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> vmware
QEMU:
> * is quite fast
Quite fast with the accelerator module. There is also full
virtualization mode, that can be used with certain operating systems.
> * does suspend/resume quite beautifully
It can save memory state and load it later o
On Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit :
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
> > repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create
also sprach Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.1236 +0200]:
> I know that QEMU Accelerator is not distributable, but providing a sort
> of an installer (or even asking an author for a permission to
> distribute) should not be any harder than providing an installer for
Alle Sunday 13 August 2006 04:06, Goswin von Brederlow ha scritto:
> What you mean is vserver and even more so xen. I hear with the latest
> versions you can even run windows in xen.
You can do that only if your CPU is enabled with VT/Pacifica
virtualization technology.
Regards,
Francesco
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Loïc Minier wrote:
> Would be nice if we could go as far as shipping binary packages for
> e.g. vmware-player, as Ubuntu does:
Oh come one guys. So instead of providing QEMU + QEMU Acclerator, a
partially free solution, we just go for totally non-free one? VMware was
not an option when
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
> I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
> repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create
> a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server
> and vmware-modules-source pa
also sprach Peter Collingbourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.0106 +0100]:
> I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
> repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to
> create a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server)
> vmware
also sprach Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.0125 +0100]:
> > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
> > repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create
> > a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmwa
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit :
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
>> repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create
>&
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:25:59AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit :
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
> > repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propos
Alle Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit ha scritto:
> Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit :
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
> > repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:25:59AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit :
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
> > repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propos
Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit :
> Dear all,
>
> I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
> repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create
> a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server
>
Dear all,
I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create
a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server
and vmware-modules-source packages based on an installation tarball
(a la java-package
* Jeroen Dekkers
| Software always used to be free. That changed, but RMS didn't
| change. I don't what software he used to write parts of GNU, but it
| could have been free, there was enough free software at time. Oh, and
| 1) the Hurd isn't a kernel 2) RMS has never written anything of
| it AFA
Jeroen [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Tue, 9 Apr 2002 19:29:14 +0200:
> What is wrong with telling him that the kind of problems he's having
> is normal with non-free software and say that there are 2 free
> alternatives in Debian which would probably not have those problems?
>
The problem with those solut
Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:25:53 +0200:
> * Jeroen Dekkers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20020409 20:45]:
> > You don't have to tell me how glibc works, I develop it.
> Yeah, and Daniel Stone is a Linux kernel developer.
>
Heheheheh
But watch out, Jeroen == Hurd developer.. (Ohyes
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 06:33:34PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:43:22AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > If there are only proprietary programs that do a specific job, and it
> > is desired to have a free program for this job, then we are forced to
> > reinvent th
en RMS used
> > > commercial software when the GNU software for it was not yet written.
>
> > You mean proprietary software. There is no conflict between the GPL
> > and commerciality (even if Microsoft is trying to implant another
> > opinion in people's mind). And yes
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:46:12AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:33:16PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
>
> > Oh, and 1) the Hurd isn't a kernel
>
> Wonderful news! Does this mean that we can expect the
> '-the-linux-kernel-packages-should-all-have-linux-in-the-name-'
>
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:33:16PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> > That's fine with me. At least I'll have a lot more leisure when using
> > an available product instead of re-inventing the wheel. Even RMS used
> > commercial software when the GNU software for it was not yet written.
> > With you
t is trying to implant another
> opinion in people's mind). And yes, he did so because this was the
> fastest way to achieve the goal of an entirely free operating system.
> This goal has by now been achieved. You will not find RMS using vmware
> for pure convenience.
Okay, right,
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:33:16PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> Oh, and 1) the Hurd isn't a kernel
Wonderful news! Does this mean that we can expect the
'-the-linux-kernel-packages-should-all-have-linux-in-the-name-'
thread to not repeat itself?
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer
pgp1zKoq
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 03:13:57PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 01:02:54PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
>
> > > In such cases I sometimes decide to run the non-free tool if it saves
> > > me some time. After all I want to get my job done and I want to have
> > > som
PL
> and commerciality (even if Microsoft is trying to implant another
> opinion in people's mind). And yes, he did so because this was the
> fastest way to achieve the goal of an entirely free operating system.
> This goal has by now been achieved. You will not find RMS usin
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