Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default

2024-12-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Noah Meyerhans (2024-12-19): > I'm not sure it's the case that most of those other systems install > Priority: standard. Debootstrap certainly doesn't by itself, and I > don't think the debuerreotype tool for building OCI images does either. > In any case, your point still stands. I'll re-assign

Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default

2024-12-19 Thread Tianon Gravi
On Thu, Dec 19, 2024, 09:15 Noah Meyerhans wrote: > Control: reassign -1 general > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 04:24:49PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Regarding tasksel vs. Priority, the latter has a potential for a much > > wider impact: lots of Debian system are installed without d-i and/or

Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default

2024-12-19 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 04:28:52PM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 09:53:27PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > > > > In theory, if we don't want to explicitly install the package in d-i, > > > > > another possibility might be to bump it to Priority: standard and let > > >

Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default

2024-12-19 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 09:53:27PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > > > In theory, if we don't want to explicitly install the package in d-i, > > > > another possibility might be to bump it to Priority: standard and let > > > > tasksel install it. I'm not sure what the tradeoffs might be that

Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default

2024-12-19 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 12:12:13PM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote: [..] > > > In theory, if we don't want to explicitly install the package in d-i, > > > another possibility might be to bump it to Priority: standard and let > > > tasksel install it. I'm not sure what the tradeoffs might be that would

Processed: Re: Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default

2024-12-19 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > reassign -1 general Bug #1090811 [src:debian-installer] debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default Bug reassigned from package 'src:debian-installer' to 'general'. No longer marked as found in versions debian-installer/202409

Bug#1050969: ITP: v-i -- An alternative Debian installer using vmdb2 and ansible

2023-08-31 Thread Christopher Obbard
-3 Programming Lang: Python, YAML Description : An alternative Debian installer using vmdb2 and ansible v-i installs a very basic Debian onto a PC. It's entirely non-interactive and unhelpful. The author wrote it so that repeated installations would be less of a chore than using the off

Re: Debian Installer Bookworm RC 1 release

2023-04-03 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Charles Curley (2023-04-03): > Hmm. On https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer, there are two > news items at the top. Both are dated 19 Feb 2023. Is that correct? > > The RC1 release > (https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2023/20230403) is > also dated F

Re: Debian Installer Bookworm RC 1 release

2023-04-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 23:31:42 +0200 Cyril Brulebois wrote: > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first release > candidate of the installer for Debian 12 "Bookworm". Hmm. On https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer, there are two news items at the top. B

Moving netboot debian-installer binaries out of main?

2022-10-05 Thread Sam Hartman
e best place would be the mailing list Steve> (debian-b...@lists.debian.org). If you'd like to help Steve> implement any of these changes, that would be lovely too! So, for each architecture there are packages in main like debian-installer-12-netboot-archname I'm assuming th

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2022-01-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 09:52:42AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > I don't have anything like a design for how that should look in my head > though -- I guess interested parties should get together and come up > with a design _before_ we start trying to implement it :-) This sounds like you need some

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2022-01-18 Thread Philip Hands
n.org/philh/tasksel/-/pipelines/337031 which (via a multi-project pipeline) generates a mini-iso: https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer/-/jobs/2364015/artifacts/file/public/gtk-mini.iso that is configured to use an additional apt repo, which in this case includes a version

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2022-01-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steve, Am Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 11:33:38PM + schrieb Steve McIntyre: > Much as I hate to let you down, I think the best policy now is to be > honest (with myself and you!) and say that I'm not going to find time > to do this any time soon. Sorry. :-( No need to be sorry about this. I highl

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2022-01-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi Andreas! Apologies for keeping you waiting here. For a range of reasons, I've been struggling to find *any* time to look at this. Much as I hate to let you down, I think the best policy now is to be honest (with myself and you!) and say that I'm not going to find time to do this any time soon.

Constraints of tasksek (Was: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer)

2022-01-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 12:56:28PM +0100 schrieb Hendrik Sattler: > Well, entries like "Debian desktop environment" do not have a good > explanation in tasksel either. Unless you look at the apt information or the > debian wiki, there is not much for the user to find out about it. Gnome is > th

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2022-01-12 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am 11. Januar 2022 09:24:28 MEZ schrieb Wouter Verhelst : >On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:51:45AM +, Seth Arnold wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:02:50PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: >> > The only missing bit AFAIK is getting the step where tasksel gets >> > installed into the target system, a

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2022-01-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:51:45AM +, Seth Arnold wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:02:50PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > The only missing bit AFAIK is getting the step where tasksel gets > > installed into the target system, and then run, to be able to grab the > > version of tasksel to use

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2022-01-10 Thread Seth Arnold
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:02:50PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > The only missing bit AFAIK is getting the step where tasksel gets > installed into the target system, and then run, to be able to grab the > version of tasksel to use from an alternative apt repository (which is > already being created

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2022-01-10 Thread Sunil Mohan Adapa
On 1/10/22 11:24, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi Phil, Am Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:02:50PM +0100 schrieb Philip Hands: Fixing that last bit is next on my TODO list. Once done, that should allow us to try things out rather more easily, and thus have a chance to demonstrate that they are ready for a wide

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2022-01-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Phil, Am Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:02:50PM +0100 schrieb Philip Hands: > Fixing that last bit is next on my TODO list. Once done, that should > allow us to try things out rather more easily, and thus have a chance to > demonstrate that they are ready for a wider audience. > > I'll follow up here

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2022-01-10 Thread Philip Hands
Andreas Tille writes: > Hi Steve, > > a new release cycle has started. Do you think it is possible to > implement this long wanted feature for the next release? BTW I've got almost all of the bits in place to allow one to test this just by pushing repos on salsa. The only missing bit AFAIK is

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2022-01-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steve, a new release cycle has started. Do you think it is possible to implement this long wanted feature for the next release? Kind regards and happy new year Andreas. Am Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 04:53:48PM + schrieb Steve McIntyre: > Hey Andreas! > > On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 02:46:52

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2021-11-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steve, Am Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 04:53:48PM + schrieb Steve McIntyre: > > I've made a *small* amount of progress at hacking on debconf (route > #2). But again I've had other things come up, not least another round > of Secure Boot fixes. We're not going to have changes in for > Bullseye. Sor

RE: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-04-23 Thread Brian Thompson
Looks to be fixed now. -Brian  Best regards, Brian Thompson From: Andrew M.A. CaterSent: Friday, April 23, 2021 3:46 AMTo: debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.orgCc: debian-b...@lists.debian.orgSubject: Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release Unfortunately, the website links to media still only

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-04-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Unfortunately, the website links to media still only point to the Alpha-3 release :( All best, Andy C

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2021-03-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hey Andreas! On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 02:46:52PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: >On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 10:23:19AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> Hey Andreas! I hope you're keeping well! >> >> On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 06:08:02PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: >> >> (Overdue!) update: I've been hacking

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2021-03-03 Thread Paul Sutton
On 02/03/2021 13:46, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi Steve, On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 10:23:19AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Hey Andreas! I hope you're keeping well! On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 06:08:02PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: (Overdue!) update: I've been hacking on this for a while, and I hope to

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2021-03-02 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steve, On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 10:23:19AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hey Andreas! I hope you're keeping well! > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 06:08:02PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > >> (Overdue!) update: I've been hacking on this for a while, and I hope > >> to have a prototype for testing up

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye Alpha 3 release

2020-12-31 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Karl-Heinz Künzel wrote: > Downloaded alpha 3 from official source and put the iso on an USB stick. > Disconnected all drives on my PC and connected a fresh SSD. > > Ran graphic and standard installer. No fault, no errors. > > After reboot, grub shows up and after count-down I get a black s

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye Alpha 3 release

2020-12-31 Thread Karl-Heinz Künzel
Hi. I made several (EFI) installation runs yesterday of alpha 3 here on my Buster PC. Downloaded alpha 3 from official source and put the iso on an USB stick. Disconnected all drives on my PC and connected a fresh SSD. Ran graphic and standard installer. No fault, no errors. After reboot, grub

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2020-10-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steve, On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 10:23:19AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hey Andreas! I hope you're keeping well! Thanks, I'm perfectly fine. I hope you as well. > You must be > psychic - I just started picking things up again last weekend. Argh, now you have made my deepest secret public!

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2020-10-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hey Andreas! I hope you're keeping well! On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 06:08:02PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: >On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 07:16:11PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >Not yet, I'm afraid. A little too swamped so far, but you're near the >> >top of my TODO list. I'm hoping to get some time fo

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2020-10-07 Thread Sunil Mohan Adapa
;ve clearly >> missed something! Debugging that now... > > I wonder whether I might have missed some information whether there > is something I could test meanwhile. > > Kind regards and thanks for all your work for the installer Hi Steve and Andreas, I believe getting al

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2020-10-06 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steve, On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 07:16:11PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >Not yet, I'm afraid. A little too swamped so far, but you're near the > >top of my TODO list. I'm hoping to get some time for development on > >this in the next couple of months. > > (Overdue!) update: I've been hacking

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2020-03-23 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steve, On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 07:16:11PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >Not yet, I'm afraid. A little too swamped so far, but you're near the > >top of my TODO list. I'm hoping to get some time for development on > >this in the next couple of months. > > (Overdue!) update: I've been hacking

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2020-03-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:23:08PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >Hey Andreas! > >On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 08:23:39AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: >> >>the first alpha of the installer of Debian 11 is out. As we talked at >>DebConf about better Blends support: Is there anything we can test >>regardi

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2020-01-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hey Andreas! On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 08:23:39AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > >the first alpha of the installer of Debian 11 is out. As we talked at >DebConf about better Blends support: Is there anything we can test >regarding tasksel? Not yet, I'm afraid. A little too swamped so far, but you'

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2019-12-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steve, the first alpha of the installer of Debian 11 is out. As we talked at DebConf about better Blends support: Is there anything we can test regarding tasksel? Kind regards Andreas. On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 10:32:28PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi, > > somehow I've thought I w

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye Alpha 1 release

2019-12-05 Thread Peter Ehlert
Excellent, it works great. Peter Ehlert On December 5, 2019 5:25:58 AM Cyril Brulebois wrote: The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first alpha release of the installer for Debian 11 "Bullseye". It's high time we started doing this: many components were upd

Re: Hierarchical tasksel / Blends support (Was: Debian Installer Buster Alpha 5 release)

2019-02-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Andreas Tille writes ("Re: Hierarchical tasksel / Blends support (Was: Debian Installer Buster Alpha 5 release)"): > That's really relieving for me to hear since I was scared about the need > to learn Perl to a way higher level than the basics I have and I admit > there

Re: Hierarchical tasksel / Blends support (Was: Debian Installer Buster Alpha 5 release)

2019-02-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steve, On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 01:30:08AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Arg. :-( ;-) > I was hoping that (ideally) Phil or (maybe) I would be able to help > with this, as we discussed at DC18. That's not happened, basically due > to lack of time and too many projects. :-( Well, I know that

Re: Hierarchical tasksel / Blends support (Was: Debian Installer Buster Alpha 5 release)

2019-02-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi Andreas, Arg. :-( I was hoping that (ideally) Phil or (maybe) I would be able to help with this, as we discussed at DC18. That's not happened, basically due to lack of time and too many projects. :-( On Tue, Feb 05, 2019 at 09:22:39AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: >Hi Cyril, > >thanks for your

Hierarchical tasksel / Blends support (Was: Debian Installer Buster Alpha 5 release)

2019-02-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Cyril, thanks for your continuous work on the installer and lots of new great features. On Sat, Feb 02, 2019 at 12:45:32PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > We need your help to find bugs and further improve the installer, > so please try it. Sorry for repeating my question[1] but it is not cle

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2018-12-03 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, somehow I've thought I would have pinged about this one and I even somehow remember that Holger liked that I did so but I do not find and trace of this in my outbox nor the mailing list archive. So may be I have dreamed this. It would be a real dream if we could finally realise this 15 year

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2018-08-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Ole, On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 12:23:58PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > Filippo Rusconi writes: > > Also, when I installed debian-science and debichem last time, the process > > downloaded such an amount of software that it almost filled my disk (which > > I was > > not suspecting). Maybe, a ro

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2018-08-16 Thread Ole Streicher
Filippo Rusconi writes: > Also, when I installed debian-science and debichem last time, the process > downloaded such an amount of software that it almost filled my disk (which I > was > not suspecting). Maybe, a rough indication of the used disk space in front of > each blend might be useful, in

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2018-08-16 Thread Filippo Rusconi
Greetings, Andreas, and everybody, On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:34:36AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, to give some status information about how we can make Blends more visible at installer stage: Holger Levsen, Phil Hands, Steve McIntyre and I had some discussion in DebCamp. The conclusion w

Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

2018-08-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, to give some status information about how we can make Blends more visible at installer stage: Holger Levsen, Phil Hands, Steve McIntyre and I had some discussion in DebCamp. The conclusion was that adding Blends to the installer tasksel menu would be perfectly possible if tasksel itself woul

Re: Debian Installer Stretch RC 5 release

2017-06-14 Thread Yanhui He
FYI. Thanks! -- Best Regards, Yanhui GOSV | 9F, Raycom, Beijing | +86-10-5984-6673(Office) | +86-10-59946452 (Fax) On 13/06/2017, 4:19 PM, "Cyril Brulebois" wrote: The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the fifth release candidate of the installer for Debian

Re: xvi patch to generate UDEB for Debian-Installer

2017-06-14 Thread Martin Guy
On 13/06/2017, Jose R R wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Martin Guy wrote: >> On 12/06/2017, Jose R R wrote: >>> If anyone finds it useful, of course, attached please find a patch to >>> generate a small xvi UDEB -- suitable for embedding in d-i. >> >> Just one thought, maybe for a udeb

Re: xvi patch to generate UDEB for Debian-Installer

2017-06-13 Thread Jose R R
t whatever happens to be my current interest. I just hate nano, which is currently embedded by default in debian-installer (d-i). And even though it is unlikely debian maintainer of d-i will change his mind, I think other vi people will find your xvi useful for embedded applications --especially if i

xvi patch to generate UDEB for Debian-Installer

2017-06-12 Thread Jose R R
:42:53 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] Enabled generation of UDEB for Debian-Installer (d-i) --- debian/changelog | 7 +++ debian/control | 9 + debian/rules | 4 +++- 3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog index 293380b..1

Re: Bug#846002: Debian Installer Stretch RC 1 release

2017-01-17 Thread Ole Streicher
Hi Bjørn, Am 17.01.2017 um 10:28 schrieb Bjørn Mork: > To me it looks like a sandbox fight which started with the creative use > of "Priority: important". Now it appears that the party starting the > fight thinks the other party should stop throwing sand until "mommy" > (aka CTTE) decides who is r

Re: Bug#846002: Debian Installer Stretch RC 1 release

2017-01-17 Thread Bjørn Mork
Andreas Tille writes: >> Since this is still an open discussion in #846002, I would have >> preferred if you would not try to force your own preference here before >> the CTTE made its decision. > > While I'm not sure whether its a personal preference or whether some > discussion I might have mis

Re: Bug#846002: Debian Installer Stretch RC 1 release

2017-01-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 02:24:13PM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote: > > Important changes in this release of the installer > > == > > > > * [...] > > * As noted in the Stretch Alpha 6 release announcement, Debian Pure > >Blends appeared in the

Re: Debian Installer Stretch RC 1 release

2017-01-15 Thread Ole Streicher
On 15.01.2017 05:21, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first release > candidate of the installer for Debian 9 "Stretch". > > > Important changes in this

Re: Bug#843073: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-29 Thread Guillem Jover
On Mon, 2016-11-21 at 17:23:19 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Nov 21, Guillem Jover wrote: > > Oh, and forgot to mention, this issue has been known for over 8 > > months, and now there's this need to be pushy and rush things, etc. > > I certainly do not appreciate that. > No, not really: it was

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016, Guillem Jover wrote: > Oh, and forgot to mention, this issue has been known for over 8 > months, and now there's this need to be pushy and rush things, etc. > I certainly do not appreciate that. I have not been involved in this project so I don't know its history but #843073 i

Re: Bug#843073: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 21, Guillem Jover wrote: > Oh, and forgot to mention, this issue has been known for over 8 > months, and now there's this need to be pushy and rush things, etc. > I certainly do not appreciate that. No, not really: it was not clear (e.g. I could never reproduce it) until very recently. -

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-21 Thread Guillem Jover
On Mon, 2016-11-21 at 17:09:50 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Mon, 2016-11-21 at 16:38:07 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > I can offer to upload dpkg 1.18.15.1 to sid with just those patches if > > it relieves you from handling an intermediary upload until you > > release 1.18.16 on your usual s

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-21 Thread Guillem Jover
Just a brief reply. On Mon, 2016-11-21 at 16:38:07 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2016, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Just for the record: I can confirm it fixes the problem in dpkg-shlibdeps. > [...] > > Guillem, it would be great if you can upload a fixed dpkg soon. > > A full week w

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello Guillem, On Mon, 14 Nov 2016, Michael Biebl wrote: > Just for the record: I can confirm it fixes the problem in dpkg-shlibdeps. [...] > Guillem, it would be great if you can upload a fixed dpkg soon. A full week went by already. What's your plan? I can offer to upload dpkg 1.18.15.1 to sid

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-14 Thread James Clarke
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 07:58:33PM +, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 08:55:43PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Am 12.11.2016 um 19:17 schrieb Guillem Jover: > > > Control: severity 843073 important > > > > > Ok, Mattia Rizzolo tells me (thanks!) that it's actually twice per >

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-14 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 14.11.2016 um 12:22 schrieb Raphael Hertzog: > Please find two patches attached. > > I checked that the command below was failing with the current dpkg-dev > and it did no longer fail with the updated one. > > $ sbuild -d sid --add-depends=usrmerge --chroot-setup-commands="sed -i > 's#^/usr#

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-14 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Control: tag -1 + patch Control: severity -1 serious Hi Guillem, On Sun, 13 Nov 2016, Guillem Jover wrote: > > The /usr merge violates core assumptions in dpkg-shlibdeps. The reason > > that amd64 isn't broken is sheer luck. > > /etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu.conf lists /lib before /usr/lib,

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-13 Thread Guillem Jover
Control: clone 843073 -1 Control: reassign -1 debootstrap 1.0.85 Control: retitle -1 debootstrap: Please revert merged-/usr by default as it breaks builds Control: severity -1 serious Control: affects -1 dpkg-dev Control: severity 843073 wishlist Control: block 810499 by 843073 Control: severity 8

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marco d'Itri, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 12:04:07 +0100, wrote: > On Nov 13, Helmut Grohne wrote: > > Thus I think that debootstrap should revert to unmerged /usr until > > dpkg-shlibdeps has been fixed. Fixing is non-trivial and likely requires > > an archive rebuild on several architectures. > Not reall

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 13, Helmut Grohne wrote: > Thus I think that debootstrap should revert to unmerged /usr until > dpkg-shlibdeps has been fixed. Fixing is non-trivial and likely requires > an archive rebuild on several architectures. Not really: dpkg-shlibdeps just needs to be fixed to search for libraries

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-12 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 08:55:43PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Is this really so for all buildds? > See #843433, the sparc64 buildds apparently do use a merged-usr chroot. The issue depends on the loader path of the architecture. Although I do not understand why, it seems that /lib64 is less pro

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-12 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 08:55:43PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 12.11.2016 um 19:17 schrieb Guillem Jover: > > Control: severity 843073 important > > > Ok, Mattia Rizzolo tells me (thanks!) that it's actually twice per > > week, and that the debootstrap used is from jessie > > Is this really

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-12 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 12.11.2016 um 19:17 schrieb Guillem Jover: > Control: severity 843073 important > Ok, Mattia Rizzolo tells me (thanks!) that it's actually twice per > week, and that the debootstrap used is from jessie Is this really so for all buildds? See #843433, the sparc64 buildds apparently do use a mer

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-12 Thread Guillem Jover
Control: severity 843073 important On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 18:37:52 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 16:24:32 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Important change in this release of the installer > > = > > > > * debootstrap now defau

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-12 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 16:24:32 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Important change in this release of the installer > = > > * debootstrap now defaults to merged-/usr, that is with /bin, /sbin, >/lib* being symlinks to their counterpart in /usr

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-10-22 Thread Bart Schouten
Wouter Verhelst schreef op 22-10-2016 21:39: On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 02:43:13PM +0200, Bart Schouten wrote: I have no problem with what Debian is today, Actually, you do. You seem to be advocating against systemd; but systemd *is* what Debian is today. Jessie has been released with systemd a

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-10-22 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 02:43:13PM +0200, Bart Schouten wrote: > I have no problem with what Debian is today, Actually, you do. You seem to be advocating against systemd; but systemd *is* what Debian is today. Jessie has been released with systemd as its default init system, and there are no plans

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-10-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Wouter Verhelst writes ("Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]"): > I think that claiming that "Debian is not for lay users", and acting in > that manner, makes us eliti

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-10-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 10:24:06AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 07:17:15PM +0200, Bart Schouten wrote: > > I just mean is that you shouldn't try to expand the scope of your userbase > > beyond what is reasonable possible because it is not possible anyway > > That is a fa

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-10-22 Thread Bart Schouten
Wouter Verhelst schreef op 22-10-2016 10:12: A lay user may find Debian is best used if they have someone nearby who can help them sort out any problems. We can hope that the are minor and we try to remove, where possible, barriers to fixing them. I agree with the general gist of what you wro

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-10-22 Thread Bart Schouten
You say I am defeatist but you are defending against loss... Wouter Verhelst schreef op 22-10-2016 10:24: I think that that is a feature, and that we should try to avoid losing it. I don't think so. Making something difficult is the best way to avoid getting more users. Not getting more us

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-10-22 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 07:17:15PM +0200, Bart Schouten wrote: > I just mean is that you shouldn't try to expand the scope of your userbase > beyond what is reasonable possible because it is not possible anyway That is a fairly defeatist attitude. > and you should recognise that you *are* a techn

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-10-22 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Ian, On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 04:26:49PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes ("Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: > Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max > RAM...]"): > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-10-21 Thread Bart Schouten
Ian Jackson schreef op 21-10-2016 17:26: Wouter Verhelst writes ("Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]"): On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:41:11PM +0200, Bart Schouten wrote: > I don&#

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-10-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Wouter Verhelst writes ("Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]"): > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:41:11PM +0200, Bart Schouten wrote: > > I don't think Debian is for lay use

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-10-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:41:11PM +0200, Bart Schouten wrote: > I don't think Debian is for lay users Why? -- < ron> I mean, the main *practical* problem with C++, is there's like a dozen people in the world who think they really understand all of its rules, and pretty much all of

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-09-30 Thread Bart Schouten
Nicholas D Steeves schreef op 30-09-2016 0:18: Page title or section heading of "I've upgraded my RAM and my swap partition/LV is no longer big enough to hibernate". I don't think Debian is for lay users, but yeah. 7. There would also need to be a section on reinitialising encrypted swap.

Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

2016-09-29 Thread Nicholas D Steeves
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 02:51:24PM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > 2016-09-29 14:15 GMT+03:00 Ben Hutchings : > > On Wed, 2016-09-28 at 16:20 +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > > [...] > >> The thing is, right now, the user has two choices: > >> > >> 1) Trust d-i to make the right choices once,

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release

2016-05-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 17:13:17 From: Cyril Brulebois Reply-To: debian-b...@lists.debian.org To: debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-b...@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the sixth alpha release o

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release

2016-05-22 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, One thing that would be nice to add in the next version of the debian-installer is brief descriptions of what tasks do for example in the alpha 6 screen select and install software lots of selections exists and as some are very good by their names like DebianMultimedia other ones are not

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 release

2016-01-10 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 07:41:10AM +0300, Adam Wilson wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:39:35 +0100 > Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the fifth alpha > > release of the installer for Debian 9 "Stretch". > > > >

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 release

2016-01-10 Thread Adam Wilson
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:39:35 +0100 Cyril Brulebois wrote: > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the fifth alpha > release of the installer for Debian 9 "Stretch". > > > Important change in this

Re: Debian Installer Jessie RC 3 release

2015-05-25 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, Christian PERRIER (2015-05-25): > Quoting Hideki Yamane (henr...@debian.or.jp): > > Hi, > > > > On Sun Apr 19, 2015 at 16:25:30 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > > Improvements in this release of the installer > > > = > > > > > > * apt-setup: > >

Re: Debian Installer Jessie RC 3 release

2015-05-24 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Hideki Yamane (henr...@debian.or.jp): > Hi, > > On Sun Apr 19, 2015 at 16:25:30 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Improvements in this release of the installer > > = > > > > * apt-setup: > > - Stop enabling backports by default (#764982). >

Re: Debian Installer Jessie RC 3 release

2015-05-24 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, On Sun Apr 19, 2015 at 16:25:30 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Improvements in this release of the installer > = > > * apt-setup: > - Stop enabling backports by default (#764982). I've sent a patch to re-enabled it but comment out by default

Re: Debian Installer Jessie RC 3 release

2015-04-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Martin Zobel-Helas writes ("Re: Debian Installer Jessie RC 3 release"): > Can you please explain why you are doing thins now instead of earlier > releases? This BR has been open since October! Also i expect mininal > changes in an RC3, not such massive functional changes. Th

Re: Debian Installer Jessie RC 3 release

2015-04-19 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sun Apr 19, 2015 at 16:25:30 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Improvements in this release of the installer > = > > * apt-setup: > - Stop enabling backports by default (#764982). (i have read the BR) I consider this this 'last minute' chan

Re: Debian Installer Jessie RC 2 release

2015-03-29 Thread Fabrice Aeschbacher
>> > 3. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer Cheers, Fabrice 2015-03-29 16:30 GMT+02:00 Paul E Condon : > Where do I find check-sums to verify my download? > > Where do I find the .iso so that I can use wget, as recommended for years and > years at www.debian.org?

Re: Debian Installer Jessie RC 2 release

2015-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
elease...how do I update from RC1? > > Thanks > On Mar 27, 2015 7:01 PM, "Cyril Brulebois" wrote: > > > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the second release > > candidate of the installer for Debian 8 "Jessie". > &g

Re: Debian Installer Jessie RC 2 release

2015-03-27 Thread Wouter Verhelst
This is really a question for -user, but... On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 07:13:49PM -0500, kongo sec wrote: > This may sound completely n00b. But this is my first time trying out Debian > RC  > release...how do I update from RC1? This is an RC of the _installer_, not Debian as a whole, so unless you'

Re: Debian Installer Jessie RC 2 release

2015-03-27 Thread kongo sec
This may sound completely n00b. But this is my first time trying out Debian RC release...how do I update from RC1? Thanks On Mar 27, 2015 7:01 PM, "Cyril Brulebois" wrote: > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the second release > candidate of the installer for

Re: debian installer, install listofpackages.txt in CD root dir after end install?

2014-11-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Michael Ole, Quoting Michael Ole Olsen (2014-11-14 00:19:36) > It would be very cool if the debian installer had a listofpackages.txt > > and that listofpackages.txt could be edited by the user > > then we would be getting customized debian installs A list of _all_ packag

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