Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-03-26 Thread Guido Günther
Hi, On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 06:10:35PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > [ Adding Guido in copy, replying to an old mail ] > > Hello Gregor, > > On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, gregor herrmann wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 12:00:27 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > > Given that the "upstream" branch nam

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-03-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, sorry for replying to an old thread. On Tue, 07 Jan 2025, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Maybe before moving it to ACCEPTED, it would be useful to design a > dashboard of some kind to track adoption, not just in tooling, but in > actual packages? I agree with that. Furthermore with multiple recent

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-03-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
[ Adding Guido in copy, replying to an old mail ] Hello Gregor, On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 12:00:27 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > Given that the "upstream" branch name cames from the git-buildpackage and > > that it's git-buildpackage which introduced

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-02-12 Thread Julien Plissonneau Duquène
Good morning, Le 2025-01-07 09:41, Julien Plissonneau Duquène a écrit : The MR above has additional links and descriptions of current practices. I do not have a strong preference for a choice yet so feedback would be appreciated. I've updated the merge request at [1] to replace the initial

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-11 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 12:00:27 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Given that the "upstream" branch name cames from the git-buildpackage and > that it's git-buildpackage which introduced "upstreamvcs", it seems fair > to me to standardize on this name. In theory, yes. In pratice, quoting myself: | As

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-11 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Tue, 07 Jan 2025, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Like many others, this looks like a gratuitous change for change's sake. > Countless packages have been using "upstream" for years, but apparently > it is not perfect enough and somebody had to invent a new name. It's difficult to have figures for t

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-08 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 07 Jan 2025 11:29:59 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jan 07, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > This change basically adds the recommendation to use "upstreamvcs" as the > > name of the "git remote" to access the upstream repository and it also > Like many others, this looks like a gratuitous cha

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-08 Thread Gioele Barabucci
On 08/01/25 06:31, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: This change basically adds the recommendation to use "upstreamvcs" as the name of the "git remote" to access the upstream repository and it also documents the possibility to merge the upstream commits in the "upstream/latest" branch (as proposed by gbp im

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-07 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi, > > > This change basically adds the recommendation to use "upstreamvcs" as the > > > name of the "git remote" to access the upstream repository and it also > > > documents the possibility to merge the upstream commits in the > > > "upstream/latest" branch (as proposed by gbp import-orig > > >

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-07 Thread Xiyue Deng
Julien Plissonneau Duquène writes: > > [..snip..] > > Could you please give us a few examples of projects where that already > works out-of-the-box, ie the package is built and uploaded to the > archive exactly as provided by upstream, debian/changelog and all? > I'm not Marco, but I happen to

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 07, Julien Plissonneau Duquène wrote: > You are free to join or discuss it here. That DEP has been online for some > years now, it's not exactly happening in the hiding. Nobody mentioned hiding anything, but it's still just a few people chatting in a gitlab issue. > > WTF? I say instead

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-07 Thread Julien Plissonneau Duquène
Le 2025-01-07 12:59, Andrey Rakhmatullin a écrit : Tags in git are not prefixed with the remote name or anything else. A tag named upstream/1.2.3 is never from the upstream. A tag named 1.2.3 should always be from the upstream. Branches, on the other hand, indeed clash between "upstream/foo br

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-07 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 12:46:46PM +0100, Julien Plissonneau Duquène wrote: > > > This change basically adds the recommendation to use "upstreamvcs" > > > as the > > > name of the "git remote" to access the upstream repository and it also > > Like many others, this looks like a gratuitous change fo

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-07 Thread Julien Plissonneau Duquène
Le 2025-01-07 11:29, Marco d'Itri a écrit : On Jan 07, Raphael Hertzog wrote: This change basically adds the recommendation to use "upstreamvcs" as the name of the "git remote" to access the upstream repository and it also Like many others, this looks like a gratuitous change for change's sa

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-07 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 07/01/25 at 11:53 +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > * Raphael Hertzog [250107 08:39]: > > 1/ https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/9 > > (see mr9.patch attached if you don't want to look up on the web) > > > > We had a couple of revisions already and it seems fine to me to m

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-07 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Raphael Hertzog [250107 08:39]: > 1/ https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/9 > (see mr9.patch attached if you don't want to look up on the web) > > We had a couple of revisions already and it seems fine to me to merge > this, if anyone has valid objections (i.e. with good rati

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 07, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > This change basically adds the recommendation to use "upstreamvcs" as the > name of the "git remote" to access the upstream repository and it also Like many others, this looks like a gratuitous change for change's sake. Countless packages have been using "upstr

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-07 Thread Julien Plissonneau Duquène
Le 2025-01-07 08:38, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : 2/ https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/16 To expand a bit on this, proposals so far for naming versioned branches are: 1. // e.g. debian/6.12/trixie which (I think) matches what the kernel team is already doing [1] 2. // e.g

Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, DEP-14 is 10 years old and while it's far from being ubiquitous, it seems to have gained enough traction (in particular in git-buildpackage thanks to the work of Otto Kekäläinen, and in quite some packaging teams thanks to the respective team members) that it would be worth marking it as AC