Avery Pennarun wrote:
> I think we should play a simple game of numbers, and I think FTP statistics
> are a good place to get those numbers :)
> Since this script will only really be useful to CD-makers, this project
> would be mostly independent of dpkg-multicd or whatever.
But not independent o
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 06:18:09AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > How do we determine what's important, and what's optional ?
>
> Some people already mentioned that we need to distinguish between
> certain packgages.
>
> I propose:
[...]
I think we should play a simple game of numbers, and I
Hi,
just a short remark on the version I uploaded today. The methods
don't require the regular `Packages' files but use their own ones
which are named `Packages.cd' or `Packages.cd.gz' resp.
This makes other methods of dselect still work with the new cds.
However this requires two sets of `Packa
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 09:10:20PM +1000, Tyson Dowd wrote:
: On 16-Oct-1998, Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 02:39:38PM +1000, Tyson Dowd wrote:
: > :
: > : There is no reason why the X-Media field has to be in the Packages
: > : files on the CD -- that
On 16-Oct-1998, Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 02:39:38PM +1000, Tyson Dowd wrote:
> :
> : There is no reason why the X-Media field has to be in the Packages
> : files on the CD -- that information could be stored by the multi-cd
> : method when it reads i
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 02:39:38PM +1000, Tyson Dowd wrote:
:
: There is no reason why the X-Media field has to be in the Packages
: files on the CD -- that information could be stored by the multi-cd
: method when it reads in the CD info.
... but not, if the first CD contains all packages files
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>
> On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Tyson Dowd wrote:
>
> > There is no reason why the X-Media field has to be in the Packages
> > files on the CD -- that information could be stored by the multi-cd
> > method when it reads in the CD info.
>
> Indeed, why don't we do that instead of
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Tyson Dowd wrote:
> There is no reason why the X-Media field has to be in the Packages
> files on the CD -- that information could be stored by the multi-cd
> method when it reads in the CD info.
Indeed, why don't we do that instead of complicating the CD making
process with
On 16-Oct-1998, Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > I don't much care for the notion of a single master package file on the
> > first CD.. I rather was intending APT to read the package files from each
> > CD and use that to determine what is on which CD. (This fi
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > I don't much care for the notion of a single master package file on the
> > first CD.. I rather was intending APT to read the package files from each
> > CD and use that to determine what is on which CD. (This fits with the URI
>
> Please implement
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>
> On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote:
>
> > > Heiko Schlittermann has written a new dselect installation method
> > > that supports multiple cds.[1] The reason why he hasn't uploaded
> > > it yet is that it depends on a hax0red version of dpkg-scanpackages
> > > t
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > Heiko Schlittermann has written a new dselect installation method
> > that supports multiple cds.[1] The reason why he hasn't uploaded
> > it yet is that it depends on a hax0red version of dpkg-scanpackages
> > to support a new field for each packag
Philip Hands wrote:
> > So, slink is more than 760 Megabytes big for i386 machines. This
> > does not fit on one single CD. This means that even without contrib,
> > non-free, non-US etc. we already need two cds.
> >
> > This needs to be addressed quick!
> >
> > Heiko Schlittermann has written
All I can say, Joey and Heiko, is congratulations. :) Debian's needed
this for a long time, and now we've got it! :)
Ben
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Martin Schulze wrote:
> I brought it up already but nobody jumped on.
Great, this time people were sensitively watching.
> Slink currently cannot be installed on a single-cd system using cd images.
Everybody agrees?
> Heiko Schlittermann has written a new dselect installation method
> that supp
Avery Pennarun wrote:
> I can whip up something like that if someone can feed me the FTP statistics.
One set of stats is available at
http://www.lh.umu.se/~bjorn/linux/debian/toplist.packagesnoversion.txt
that's only for one ftp mirror, though.
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Avery Pennarun wrote:
> That said, multi-CD support in APT would make me an extremely happy
> camper...
This is being worked on, it's a bit of a tricky problem and got caught up
in the Big Rewrite :< So it will take a bit to arrive, maybe before
release, depending how long t
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 11:39:28AM -0700, David Welton wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:31:59PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> >
> > "What would you like to see on the first CD"?
>
> Why don't we look at what the most popular downloads have been? Some
> Perl/Python type person ought to be abl
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 06:48:24PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Enrique Zanardi wrote:
> > Are we going to include "apt" in the base system? Its package
> > ordering feature (and a few others) obsoletes the other methods, but
> > currently apt doesn't work with mountable media. A "multi-cdrom-ap
On 15 Oct 1998, Andy Mortimer wrote:
> Also, another data point (and BTW, please don't think I'm being
> defensive) is that last time I looked at it, apt still required a
> fairly clean system to start with. Hopefully this has changed while
> I've been out of touch.
Try -f
Jason
Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If there's a way of making multi CD installs work, then I'm all for it.
>
> One thing: Do people think it's important to keep the possibility of doing a
> one CD install, and still ending up with a useful system ?
"Useful" as in "boots", yes! But you
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, David Welton wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:31:59PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > "What would you like to see on the first CD"?
>
> Why don't we look at what the most popular downloads have been? [...]
Good idea!
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On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:31:59PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
>
> "What would you like to see on the first CD"?
Why don't we look at what the most popular downloads have been? Some
Perl/Python type person ought to be able to parse them nicely, include
information about relative sizes of things,
On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Philip Hands wrote:
> Is something like ``Anything with a priority of extra gets put on the second
> CD'' a reasonable guess ?
Only in part.
Some packages should definitely be on the first CD even if they are extra,
namely the ones that are extra because they conflict with
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:56:42PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> Is something like ``Anything with a priority of extra gets put on the second
> CD'' a reasonable guess ? or should we make a list of stuff to go on the
> second CD based on some sensible criteria (if anyone can think of some
> wit
Can apt handle a situation where there is not enough room in the /var
partition for a complete download? Last time I check, about a month
ago, it could not handle this case. The ftp method can handle too
small /var.
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Apt has a builtin ftp metho
If main is split into two cd's then no packages in main1 should depend
on any in main2. (packages in main2 could depend on main1, then you
would be told to go back and install them from main1?)
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On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 10:37:07PM +0200, Bart Schuller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:33:12PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
> > Are we going to include "apt" in the base system? Its package
> > ordering feature (and a few others) obsoletes the other methods, but
> > currently apt doesn't work
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:33:12PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
> Are we going to include "apt" in the base system? Its package
> ordering feature (and a few others) obsoletes the other methods, but
> currently apt doesn't work with mountable media. A "multi-cdrom-apt"
> method should be added qui
Hi,
>>"Martin" == Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> Enrique Zanardi wrote:
>> Are we going to include "apt" in the base system? Its package
>> ordering feature (and a few others) obsoletes the other methods, but
>> currently apt doesn't work with mountable media. A "multi-cdro
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:33:12PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
> Are we going to include "apt" in the base system? Its package
> ordering feature (and a few others) obsoletes the other methods, but
> currently apt doesn't work with mountable media. A "multi-cdrom-apt"
> method should be added qui
> So, slink is more than 760 Megabytes big for i386 machines. This
> does not fit on one single CD. This means that even without contrib,
> non-free, non-US etc. we already need two cds.
>
> This needs to be addressed quick!
>
> Heiko Schlittermann has written a new dselect installation method
Enrique Zanardi wrote:
> Are we going to include "apt" in the base system? Its package
> ordering feature (and a few others) obsoletes the other methods, but
> currently apt doesn't work with mountable media. A "multi-cdrom-apt"
> method should be added quick.
NO! It does not _obsolete_ other met
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 02:32:31PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I brought it up already but nobody jumped on.
>
> Slink currently cannot be installed on a single-cd system using cd images.
[...]
> So, slink is more than 760 Megabytes big for i386 machines. This
> does not fit on one si
Hi,
I brought it up already but nobody jumped on.
Slink currently cannot be installed on a single-cd system using cd images.
finlandia!joey(tty11):~> grep '^Size:'
/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/Packages|awk '{sum+=$2} END{print sum
/ 1024 / 1024}'
764.438
finlandia!joey(tty11):~> gr
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