Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-12-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 11:48:09PM +0100, Frank S. Thomas wrote: > On Monday 11 September 2006 11:11, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 09:22:08AM +0200, Thomas Weber wrote: > > > Am Sonntag, den 10.09.2006, 21:22 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > > > For my part, I find it pretty o

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-11-28 Thread Frank S. Thomas
On Monday 11 September 2006 11:11, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 09:22:08AM +0200, Thomas Weber wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 10.09.2006, 21:22 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > > For my part, I find it pretty offensive that a mailing list that's set > > > as the maintainer of a pack

Re: whitelisting @*.debian.org (was: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected)

2006-09-12 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:43:41PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:18:32PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:10:55PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > The whitelist field in mailman accepts regular expressions. This is > > > trivial. > > If

Re: whitelisting @*.debian.org (was: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected)

2006-09-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:18:32PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:10:55PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > The whitelist field in mailman accepts regular expressions. This is > > trivial. > > If you can _find_ the whitelist field. It is very well hidden. Oh, come o

Re: whitelisting @*.debian.org (was: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected)

2006-09-12 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:10:55PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 04:21:54PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: >> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> it's not the first time such a question is raised, I did that >>> recently enough, for a foo-package I don't even remem

Re: whitelisting @*.debian.org (was: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected)

2006-09-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 04:21:54PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > it's not the first time such a question is raised, I did that recently > > enough, for a foo-package I don't even remember (some python messages > > that bounced to me). that is compl

Re: Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Frans Pop wrote: > On Tuesday 12 September 2006 02:11, Charles Plessy wrote: > > It is really unfortunate that the regulation of moderation is hidden > > under a "privacy" menu in Mailman. Maybe the most straightforward mean > > to slove this in the future would be to make the

Re: Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > Unfortunately, I haven't seen much support for my position yet - most > responses are in the line of "if you don't want to be flamed, don't set > the mailinglist to moderated". I remain at "flaming your fellows never > helps the project, making requests

Re: whitelisting @*.debian.org (was: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected)

2006-09-11 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 04:21:54PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> it's not the first time such a question is raised, I did that >> recently enough, for a foo-package I don't even remember (some >> python messages that bounced to me). that is completely i

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 02:11, Charles Plessy wrote: > It is really unfortunate that the regulation of moderation is hidden > under a "privacy" menu in Mailman. Maybe the most straightforward mean > to slove this in the future would be to make the new lists unmoderated > by default? Or ask th

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 09:09:26AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > > Why are you even in a position that such mistakes are > possible? Why is the recipient of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] > moderated at all? > Hi all, It happens because it is the default behaviour when you : - Request t

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 09:14 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Are you saying stupid people can't make honest mistakes? I > would think that these are not mutually exclusive characterizations. > As for determining intelligence of an action, I would much rather > call a spade a spade. It i

whitelisting @*.debian.org (was: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected)

2006-09-11 Thread Frank Küster
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it's not the first time such a question is raised, I did that recently > enough, for a foo-package I don't even remember (some python messages > that bounced to me). that is completely inadequate, and whitelisting > any @bugs.debian.org From address

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:59:35 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 21:22 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 02:26:52PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: >> > On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 11:48 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> > > Any maintainer doing suc

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 14:26:52 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 11:48 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> > has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the >> > following reason for rejecting your request: >> > >> > "No reason given" >> Any maint

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le lun 11 septembre 2006 15:36, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : > * Pierre Habouzit > > | I've already stated it, and I do it again: I do consider ok that > | the Maintainer field of some co-maintained package is a list, that > | really makes sense, but *that* list should never ever use > | sender-based

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Pierre Habouzit | I've already stated it, and I do it again: I do consider ok that the | Maintainer field of some co-maintained package is a list, that really | makes sense, but *that* list should never ever use sender-based | moderation. Does this mean you don't consider using [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le lun 11 septembre 2006 10:59, Thijs Kinkhorst a écrit : > On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 21:22 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 02:26:52PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 11:48 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > > Any maintainer doing such a braindead stupi

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 10:59:35AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > It's your right to have such an opinion, but it's not the question at > hand. The point I raised is: is it appropriate to assume that a fellow > maintainer is "braindead" or "stupid", or rather assume that he made an > honest mistak

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 09:22:08AM +0200, Thomas Weber wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 10.09.2006, 21:22 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > For my part, I find it pretty offensive that a mailing list that's set as > > the maintainer of a package would have mail filters configured this way in > > the first

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 21:22 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 02:26:52PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 11:48 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > Any maintainer doing such a braindead stupid thing - do not wonder if I > > > reject your package without any

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-11 Thread Thomas Weber
Am Sonntag, den 10.09.2006, 21:22 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > For my part, I find it pretty offensive that a mailing list that's set as > the maintainer of a package would have mail filters configured this way in > the first place. For the samba packaging team, for instance, I've taken > pains

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 02:26:52PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 11:48 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the > > > following reason for rejecting your request: > > > "No reason given" > > Any maintainer doing suc

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-10 Thread Andreas Metzler
Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Actually, I was indeed about to say this in this thread ("Reject" > being IIRC the default setting in mailman [...] Not that it matters, just for completeness sake. - The default value is defer. cu andreas -- The 'Galactic Cleaning' policy un

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-10 Thread Christian Perrier
> It would really help if people assumed that their fellow developers are > in good faith, and that something that seems unacceptable is just an > honest mistake until proven otherwise. Like this, or like the "BTS wars" > mails also of today. Actually, I was indeed about to say this in this threa

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-10 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 11:48 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the > > following reason for rejecting your request: > > > > "No reason given" > Any maintainer doing such a braindead stupid thing - do not wonder if I > reject your package wi

Re: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected

2006-09-10 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10770 March 1977, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Your request to the Pkg-qof-maintainers mailing list > > Posting of your message titled "qof_0.7.1-1_i386.changes is NEW" > > has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the > following reason for rejecting your request: > > "No r