Re: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf

2007-07-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 24, Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, you have proposed that all superserver packages provide their own > update-inetd implementation, which is fine and simple enough, except that > it's not clear how the configuration would be transferred when one > superserver is rep

Re: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf

2007-07-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Perhaps not, but the possibility to just drop a configuration snippet in > a ".d" directory, instead of having to mess with a single configuration > file, is appealing IMHO. Russ: May I ask why you don't like xinetd? A bad taste left over from Red Hat

Re: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf

2007-07-24 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 23 July 2007 18:47, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jul 23, Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Packages containing servers that can be started from inetd should all > > provide an xinetd configuration file in /etc/xinetd.d. They will > > instantly work with > > Way too much work, and

Re: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf

2007-07-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 05:45:31PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > A legitimate question is whether the xinetd configuration format is a good > format. Are there, or will there be, even more "extended" inetd:s? apt-cache search shows at least: inetutils-inetd - Internet super server micro-inet

Re: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf

2007-07-23 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
> However, even more importantly than the discussion of possible solutions, > we need an implementation. If you have a solution, please *implement* it > (and in a way that doesn't make large parts of Debian buggy, which means > being backwardly compatible) and I bet you'll be able to build a cons

Re: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf

2007-07-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 23, Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Packages containing servers that can be started from inetd should all provide > an xinetd configuration file in /etc/xinetd.d. They will instantly work with Way too much work, and "better support for xinetd" is not something important enoug

Re: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf

2007-07-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Boy, what an old bug! > This has been discussed some times[1], but no conclusion reached. I'd > like to suggest (again, probably) the following: As near as I can tell, the reason why no conclusion has been reached is because no one has written the co

Re: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf

2007-07-23 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Boy, what an old bug! This has been discussed some times[1], but no conclusion reached. I'd like to suggest (again, probably) the following: Packages containing servers that can be started from inetd should all provide an xinetd configuration file in /etc/xinetd.d. They will instantly work with

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 10:21:35PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > > * should packages disable inetd config entries on removal and in > > > > preparation for upgrade, and then reenable the entries af

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 10:21:35PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > * should packages disable inetd config entries on removal and in > > > preparation for upgrade, and then reenable the entries after upgrade > > > is complete? > > No, they shouldn't

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-14 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, Am Sa den 13. Jan 2007 um 1:18 schrieb Roger Leigh: > > c) update-inetd should default to creating none unless explicitly told > >to. This has the advantage of staying secure if a dau admin install a > >package accidentally. > > This wou

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-14 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 13, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this has a rather simple solution (for lenny?). It does not, since there are multiple inet superserver daemons with incompatible configuration file formats. Now that I finally have been allowed to split update-inetd from netbase

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 01:40:21PM +1100, Brian May wrote: >> We really need a constant way of dealing with this in package updates. > >> Currently I have two very opposing views, and not entirely convinced >> in either of them. > >> http://lists.debian

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-13 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > > * should packages disable inetd config entries on removal and in > > preparation for upgrade, and then reenable the entries after upgrade > > is complete? > > No, they shouldn't, because this loses local modifications to the inetd.conf > line. Actua

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 01:40:21PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > We really need a constant way of dealing with this in package updates. > Currently I have two very opposing views, and not entirely convinced > in either of them. > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/12/msg00279.html > vs > htt

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-12 Thread Roger Leigh
Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a another: > > Am Do den 11. Jan 2007 um 23:14 schrieb Roger Leigh: >> a) Every package calling update-inetd should call it twice; once for >>IPv4, and again for IPv6. This would require all packages to be >>updated. >> b) update-inetd sho

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-12 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a another: Am Do den 11. Jan 2007 um 23:14 schrieb Roger Leigh: > a) Every package calling update-inetd should call it twice; once for >IPv4, and again for IPv6. This would require all packages to be >updated. > b) update-inetd should

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 11, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The solution to this could be > a) Every package calling update-inetd should call it twice; once for >IPv4, and again for IPv6. This would require all packages to be >updated. > b) update-inetd should default to creating both unless expl

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-12 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 13:40:21 +1100, Brian May wrote: > > We really need a constant way of dealing with this in package updates. > > > > It seems to boil down to: > > > > * should packages disable inetd config entries on removal and in > > pr

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-11 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 13:40:21 +1100, Brian May wrote: > We really need a constant way of dealing with this in package updates. > > It seems to boil down to: > > * should packages disable inetd config entries on removal and in > preparation for upgrade, and then reenable the entries after up

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-11 Thread Roger Leigh
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I used to have proftpd in inetd.conf but with a increase connection > limit value and on every update the update-inetd would complain that > the entry it expects differs from the one found. > > That should be fixed if it isn't already. Another is

Re: update-inetd

2007-01-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We really need a constant way of dealing with this in package updates. > > Currently I have two very opposing views, and not entirely convinced > in either of them. > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/12/msg00279.html > > vs > > http://bugs.debian.

Re: update-inetd

2006-12-11 Thread Brian May
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Andreas" == Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: OBAndreas> I don't think one needs to touch inetd.conf at all (or Andreas> any other service description) during upgrades, at least Andreas> not as long as not changes to

Re: update-inetd

2006-12-11 Thread Brian May
> "Andreas" == Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andreas> I don't think one needs to touch inetd.conf at all (or Andreas> any other service description) during upgrades, at least Andreas> not as long as not changes to the service are Andreas> necessary. I would rather r

Re: update-inetd

2006-12-11 Thread Andreas Barth
* Brian May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061211 15:54]: > I strongly suspect the problem is the code (I copied elsewhere) that > disables the service on upgrades and then re-enables it again after > the upgrade is finished (hmmm seems broken just thinking about > it). > > Anyway, in this case, the ser

Re: update-inetd and xinetd

2006-02-14 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 08:37:26AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > I realise that update-inetd needs to be more flexible than just servicing > xinetd and netkit-inetd style configurations though... What do you mean by "more flexible"? IMHO update-inetd should implement just the minimum needed for

Re: update-inetd and xinetd

2006-02-14 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 13, Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been wanting to see netkit-inetd gone from base for many many years > now. Once, aj told me what needed to be done, and I think I even wrote it > down. Somewhere. I just have to find it again... This follows the usual pattern: I explain w

Re: update-inetd and xinetd

2006-02-13 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:09:32PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 13, Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > However it whould be great if update-inetd could create a file in > Many new features in update-inetd would be great, but nobody ever > finished implementing them. > I've been

Re: update-inetd and xinetd

2006-02-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 13, Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However it whould be great if update-inetd could create a file in Many new features in update-inetd would be great, but nobody ever finished implementing them. - -- ciao, Marco -BEGIN PGP SIGN