Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Do libpam-umask ought to be "base" ? > > The discussion is here: http://bugs.debian.org/314539 And enforcing the use of libpam-umask is actually the direction we're taking.. First step probably : comment UMASK in login.defs in answer to #314539

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alban Browaeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.20.1911 +0200]: > pam umask should be used ... though this was adde to debian without much > integration. The setting in /etc/login.defs should be move to the end of > this file (settings obsolete by pam) and all /etc/pam.d files upgraded. >

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-20 Thread Alban Browaeys
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 00:33 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, martin f krafft wrote: > > > If one is faced with the task to set the umask globally for all > > users and shells, this turns out to be a job of redundancy: every > > shell uses its own file in /etc, and you end up maki

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0658 +0200]: > So, to summarize, the rationale here is : don't set umask in the > default login.defs and leave this to shells and/or pam_umask. > Right? Yes. > I have to keep some kind of explanation for the default login.defs > file,

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread Christian Perrier
> Filing a bug against login... (shadow maintainer hat on) bugger...:-) I was reading this thread and just told to self : dude, this will end up in a BR against shadow/login:-) So, to summarize, the rationale here is : don't set umask in the default login.defs and leave this to shells and/o

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0208 +0200]: > And unless they know about the completely non-standard /etc/umask.conf, > they'll still edit multiple files. True enough... unless files like /etc/profile include some magic code for umask (rather than the umask call itself

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Jun-05, 17:23 (CDT), martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any point in following through with the /etc/umask.conf > proposal? libpam-umask is optional after all, and unless people know > about it, they'll edit multiple files wrt umask, and we *could* > unify this with relati

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0103 +0200]: > > /etc/login.defs is only read for console logins, not for e.g. SSH > > logins. > Then maybe the umask setting should be removed from there? r agree. Since any login session these days will invoke a shell, there is no point in

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 17, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0033 +0200]: > > There is already an umask setting in /etc/login.defs. If it makes people > > happy, I will happily drop the umask setting from /etc/profile, so > > that people do not

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 17, Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is already an umask setting in /etc/login.defs. If it makes people > happy, I will happily drop the umask setting from /etc/profile, so > that people do not have to decide between login.defs and profile > when trying to set an umask globa

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0033 +0200]: > There is already an umask setting in /etc/login.defs. If it makes people > happy, I will happily drop the umask setting from /etc/profile, so > that people do not have to decide between login.defs and profile > when trying to

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, martin f krafft wrote: > If one is faced with the task to set the umask globally for all > users and shells, this turns out to be a job of redundancy: every > shell uses its own file in /etc, and you end up making changes to > 5 files or more (depending on the number of instal

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.17.0011 +0200]: > > 1. gather comments. > > apt-cache show libpam-umask Very nice. I almost feel silly now. Is there any point in following through with the /etc/umask.conf proposal? libpam-umask is optional after all, and unless people

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread Adeodato Simó
* martin f krafft [Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:05:08 +0200]: > 1. gather comments. apt-cache show libpam-umask -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple. -- Oscar Wilde -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [