Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-20 Thread peter.kourzanov
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 05:41:26PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > Em S?b, 2006-03-18 ?s 23:17 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > > Yes. However, I think that 'setting up buildd' is the least difficult > > of those tasks. It is by far more difficult to produce patches for all > > 'standard debian pack

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-20 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Sáb, 2006-03-18 às 23:17 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > Yes. However, I think that 'setting up buildd' is the least difficult > of those tasks. It is by far more difficult to produce patches for all > 'standard debian packages' that make them first of all, cross-compile > correctly, and (onl

Re: {SPAM} Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-18 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Daniel Ruoso wrote: Em Qui, 2006-03-16 às 15:09 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:46:59PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: Em Seg, 2006-03-13 ?s 17:30 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: Daniel Ruoso wrote: This is a call for help :). If you want to

Re: {SPAM} Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-16 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Qui, 2006-03-16 às 15:09 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:46:59PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > Em Seg, 2006-03-13 ?s 17:30 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > > > Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > > >This is a call for help :). If you want to help, just take over the task >

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-16 Thread peter.kourzanov
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:46:59PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > Em Seg, 2006-03-13 ?s 17:30 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > > Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > >This is a call for help :). If you want to help, just take over the task > > >of setting a uclibc-i386 buildd up. > > What is the need for buildd

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-16 Thread peter.kourzanov
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 03:39:41PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: > > >[2] http://www.emdebian.org/slind.html > > > This one looks dead. > > I understand we live in a gentoo-driven 0-day bleeding edge culture, but > this is quite spectacular deducment. SLIND was published exactly two > weeks ago in F

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 07:02:18PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:38:52AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > >On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > > >>Dpkg maintainer(s), what do you think is the correct procedure f

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:38:52AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > >>Dpkg maintainer(s), what do you think is the correct procedure for > >>additing these things i.e., extra -vendor and -libc fields? I alre

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Seg, 2006-03-13 às 17:30 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > Daniel Ruoso wrote: > >This is a call for help :). If you want to help, just take over the task > >of setting a uclibc-i386 buildd up. > What is the need for buildd? Basically, what is described in http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/se

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Eric Cooper
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > Dpkg maintainer(s), what do you think is the correct procedure for > additing these things i.e., extra -vendor and -libc fields? I already > have a patch for dpkg package which adds-in uclibc variants... I hope toolchain-source mai

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Daniel Ruoso wrote: Em Seg, 2006-03-13 às 15:04 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: Also, looking at http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/?cvsroot=i386-uclibc I see only binutils and gcc. In the other thread "cross-compiling Debian packages" I already mentioned that binutils and gcc

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Seg, 2006-03-13 às 15:04 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > Also, looking at > http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/?cvsroot=i386-uclibc > I see only binutils and gcc. In the other thread "cross-compiling Debian > packages" > I already mentioned that binutils and gcc are trivial to

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Riku Voipio wrote: [2] http://www.emdebian.org/slind.html This one looks dead. I understand we live in a gentoo-driven 0-day bleeding edge culture, but this is quite spectacular deducment. SLIND was published exactly two weeks ago in FOSDEM and it is already dead? ...and

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Riku Voipio
> >[2] http://www.emdebian.org/slind.html > This one looks dead. I understand we live in a gentoo-driven 0-day bleeding edge culture, but this is quite spectacular deducment. SLIND was published exactly two weeks ago in FOSDEM and it is already dead? >> ...and i386-uclibc[3] alioth project, wh

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: [snip] > >>There's also kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}, so why don't you use uclibc-i386? > >> > >> > > > >Actually, I disagree. To me it makes perfect sense the way it > >currently is, namely: > > kernel-arch-libc > > > >kernel and libc c

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Pjotr Kourzanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Riku Voipio wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:49:01PM +0100, Peter Kourzanov wrote: Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 rather that i386-hurd? because dpkg-arc

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Riku Voipio wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:38:52AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: Not being a dpkg maintainer, I find this to be a gratuitous change for no good reason (other than "it looks a bit better"). I don't see what point it would serve. May

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Riku Voipio
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:38:52AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > >Not being a dpkg maintainer, I find this to be a gratuitous change for > >no good reason (other than "it looks a bit better"). I don't see what > >point it would serve. > Maybe the ability to run Debian on

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Pjotr Kourzanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Riku Voipio wrote: > >>On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:49:01PM +0100, Peter Kourzanov wrote: >> >> >>> Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 >>> rather that i386-hurd? >>> >>> >> >>because dpkg-architecture has a line like this:

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: Dpkg maintainer(s), what do you think is the correct procedure for additing these things i.e., extra -vendor and -libc fields? I already have a patch for dpkg package which adds-in uclibc variants...

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > Dpkg maintainer(s), what do you think is the correct procedure for > additing these things i.e., extra -vendor and -libc fields? I already > have a patch for dpkg package which adds-in uclibc variants... Not being a dpkg maintainer

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-13 00:04]: I am adding some additional archs to my local installation like i386-uclibc, which makes hurd-i386 an exception to the rule of having the CPU arch first and the OS name the next. There's also kfr

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-13 00:04]: > > I am adding some additional archs to my local installation like > > i386-uclibc, which makes hurd-i386 an exception to the rule of > > having the CPU arch first and the OS name the next. > There's also kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}, so wh

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Pjotr Kourzanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am adding some additional archs to my local installation like i386-uclibc, > which makes hurd-i386 an exception to the rule of having the CPU arch first > and the OS name the next. There's also kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}, so why don't you use uclibc-i386?

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Riku Voipio wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:49:01PM +0100, Peter Kourzanov wrote: Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 rather that i386-hurd? because dpkg-architecture has a line like this: return "$os-$cpu"; older dpkg (of sarge age) was more flexib

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Lars Wirzenius wrote: su, 2006-03-12 kello 15:49 +0100, Peter Kourzanov kirjoitti: Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 rather that i386-hurd? I guess it just happened to seem like a good name at the time. Why, is there a problem with the name? Does it m

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Florian Ludwig wrote: Peter Kourzanov wrote: Dear DDs, Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 rather that i386-hurd? Is there any rule that says that the OS name should come before CPU name? Is there any rule that says that the architecture should came before

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Riku Voipio
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:49:01PM +0100, Peter Kourzanov wrote: > Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 > rather that i386-hurd? because dpkg-architecture has a line like this: return "$os-$cpu"; older dpkg (of sarge age) was more flexible, so likely the hurd na

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2006-03-12 kello 15:49 +0100, Peter Kourzanov kirjoitti: > Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 > rather that i386-hurd? I guess it just happened to seem like a good name at the time. Why, is there a problem with the name? Does it matter? Debian architecture na

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Florian Ludwig
Peter Kourzanov wrote: Dear DDs, Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 rather that i386-hurd? Is there any rule that says that the OS name should come before CPU name? Is there any rule that says that the architecture should came before the OS name? Pjotr