Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:00:13PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Tuesday 15 August 2006 15:43, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > but that Solaris itself is not > > particularly well suited to PC-class hardware (because it has less > > drivers, or whatever). > > This is true, but OpenSolaris is getti

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-17 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 15:43, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:46:49PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > > hmmm... I don't think a sane seasoned Solaris admin would evaluate a > > Unix-like operating system for server-class work by installing its > > 'Desktop' task, perhap

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:46:49PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > hmmm... I don't think a sane seasoned Solaris admin would evaluate a > Unix-like operating system for server-class work by installing its > 'Desktop' task, perhaps? A seasoned Solaris admin may very well be of the opinion tha

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
[Sorry for sending the message only to you John =(] Em Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:03:52 -0500 John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Not if this is their first exposure to Debian. Say you were a > seasoned Solaris admin, and you installed Debian to play around with. > You get a prompt saying that

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> Please don't mess with gettext this way. You should ask Ubuntu people to > rewrite the lines so that the 'branding' is removed or, at most, is handled > by a variable that *is* replaced at runtime (this is what was introduced in > Debian Installer). If you do string-based replacement you are goin

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > The second feature is quite cool; update-notifier uses hal to detect > that a new CD/DVD was inserted and tries to figure out whether that is > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and to > avoid mes

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:58:53 +0900 Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Maybe a way to solve the problem would be to make clear in the package > name, documentation and popup messages that it is not a native Debian > tool? For instance, it could be called "Ubuntu update notifier for > D

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 09:03:52PM -0500, John Goerzen a écrit : > > Say you were a > seasoned Solaris admin, and you installed Debian to play around with. > You get a prompt saying that you have to reboot because zlib or > something has been upgraded. Are you going to think this is a serious > o

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > The second feature is quite cool; update-notifier uses hal to detect > that a new CD/DVD was inserted and tries to figure out whether that is > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and to > avoid mes

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-13 Thread John Goerzen
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 09:45:02PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > Em Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:26:51 -0500 > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > > To say that any library fixing security problems will require a reboot > > is outrageous. It is quite possible to restart any impacted ser

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-13 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:31:50 +0200 Michal Politowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:29:13 -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > [...] > > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and > > to avoid messing with translations, the messages have Ubuntu > >

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-13 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:38:20 +0200 "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > > update-notifier is a program made by the Ubuntu guys which puts a > > notification icon in the notification area and warns the user a

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-13 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > update-notifier is a program made by the Ubuntu guys which puts a > notification icon in the notification area and warns the user about > updates being available, and allowing them to run update-manager (a > simple upgrade man

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-13 Thread Michal Politowski
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:29:13 -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: [...] > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and to > avoid messing with translations, the messages have Ubuntu replaced by > Debian in runtime, after the translation is got from gettext if the CD > that was

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-12 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:26:51 -0500 John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > I understand that this tool may be aimed at those that don't have a > great deal of experience, but I think that you are presenting > misleading information to everyone. Exactly. > To say that any library fixing secu

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-12 Thread John Goerzen
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > > The first feature is useful for those packages which are critical, and > which really want a reboot after upgrade, such as kernel, perhaps libc, > and any library or package fixing security problems. These simply need > to