Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Steve Langasek | > Given I maintain my packages in git, it's quite clear that the preferred | > form for modification of my packages is through git and not debian | > source packages. That we don't have a good way of distributing the | > source of packages is a fault I think we should address

Re: Format 3.0 (git) (was: Re: single-debian-patch (was Re: Bits from dpkg developers - dpkg 1.16.1))

2011-09-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011, Charles Plessy wrote: > If in a large number of cases where one would like to turn off the patch > system > of the 3.0 (quilt) format, the source package is stored in a Git repository, > then one way to move forward would be to make the format 3.0 (git) available > in Debian.

Re: Format 3.0 (git) (was: Re: single-debian-patch (was Re: Bits from dpkg developers - dpkg 1.16.1))

2011-09-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > If in a large number of cases where one would like to turn off the patch > system > of the 3.0 (quilt) format, the source package is stored in a Git repository, > then one way to move forward would be to make the format 3.0 (git) available

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Joey Hess
Bernhard R. Link wrote: > - Debian is about freedom. > - Debian is about giving back. Well! It's very interesting to have work that I have done, in the vain hope of somehow finding another way to make Debian better, elicit push-back like this. I suppose this will influence me some way or other, ca

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] "Bernhard R. Link" | * Tollef Fog Heen [110924 16:16]: | > I find reviewing what's changed between two arbitrary versions in git | > much easier than doing the same with debian source packages, so I think | > it's pretty clear this is a matter of preference. | | But if it is some other versi

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 04:16:21PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | - Debian is about freedom. Freedom in software is about about enabling > | people to "scratch their itch", to modify the software to suite their > | need and what they consider best for them. > Yes, and to continue that threa

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Michael Gilbert
Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Michael Gilbert [110924 20:24]: > > Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > > > > * Tollef Fog Heen [110924 16:16]: > > > > I find reviewing what's changed between two arbitrary versions in git > > > > much easier than doing the same with debian source packages, so I think > > >

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Michael Gilbert [110924 20:24]: > Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > > * Tollef Fog Heen [110924 16:16]: > > > I find reviewing what's changed between two arbitrary versions in git > > > much easier than doing the same with debian source packages, so I think > > > it's pretty clear this is a matter of

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Michael Gilbert
Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Tollef Fog Heen [110924 16:16]: > > I find reviewing what's changed between two arbitrary versions in git > > much easier than doing the same with debian source packages, so I think > > it's pretty clear this is a matter of preference. > > But if it is some other vers

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Tollef Fog Heen [110924 16:16]: > I find reviewing what's changed between two arbitrary versions in git > much easier than doing the same with debian source packages, so I think > it's pretty clear this is a matter of preference. But if it is some other version control system, which is easier t

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Timo Juhani Lindfors [110924 12:17]: > I always just alien --to-tgz the SRPM and then I see each patch as a > separate file. Ever tried to install rpm on a system you do not have root on? Bernhard R. Link -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Format 3.0 (git)"): > I don't put much weight on the «it should be simple to hack on packages > and VCSes make it hard» argument. IME, there are many more people who > know how to drive git than there are people who know how to usefully &

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] "Bernhard R. Link" | * Charles Plessy [110924 08:30]: | > If in a large number of cases where one would like to turn off the patch system | > of the 3.0 (quilt) format, the source package is stored in a Git repository, | > then one way to move forward would be to make the format 3.0 (git) av

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi Bernhard. If I may briefly summarise your objections against the source format 3.0 (git): 1) It increases the risk of distributing non-free files. 2) It reduces our user's freedom to modify the software we redistribute, because they may not be comfortable with git. 3) Compared to 3.0

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Bernhard R. Link" writes: > It has been better at that than rpm where you always look for > another perl script in the net that is able to make a cpio out of > that version of source rpm you run into, so you can actually look at > what they do. I always just alien --to-tgz the SRPM and t

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Charles Plessy [110924 08:30]: > If in a large number of cases where one would like to turn off the patch > system > of the 3.0 (quilt) format, the source package is stored in a Git repository, > then one way to move forward would be to make the format 3.0 (git) available > in Debian. What are