> We did not *predict* a release date, we *set* a release *target*. It's true
> that etch won't be released until it's ready, but treating "when it's ready"
> as the only target is a cop-out; the only way a project as large as Debian
> can ever *be* ready is if a sufficiently large fraction of our
On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 08:28:39PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote:
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> >>Debian will get the Etch release out this year. Honest. What
> >>could possibly go wrong? Thereafter, the Debian developers will
> >>go back to arguing abo
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>> Debian will get the Etch release out this year. Honest. What
>> could possibly go wrong? Thereafter, the Debian developers will
>> go back to arguing about firmware in the kernel.
>>
>> Honestly, it was not my intent
Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm boycotting feeding any useful information to LWN anymore until they
>> retract their latest blanket insult of all DD's and stop being so biased.
[...]
> Honestly, I don't see what the problem is here. The text in question is
> (p
On Jan 05, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I read it, there's an implication that all I, as a DD, am good for is
> failing to get Debian releases out and spending all my time in pointless
> discussion. I don't really feel that accurately describes me.
But it accurately describes many pro
On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 04:33:48PM -0700, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm boycotting feeding any useful information to LWN anymore until they
> > retract their latest blanket insult of all DD's and stop being so biased.
>
> Interesting. It's usually the Fe
On Thu, Jan 04, 2007, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Debian will get the Etch release out this year. Honest. What
> could possibly go wrong? Thereafter, the Debian developers will
> go back to arguing about firmware in the kernel.
Perhaps avoiding "the Debian developers" would make it
Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Debian will get the Etch release out this year. Honest. What
> could possibly go wrong? Thereafter, the Debian developers will
> go back to arguing about firmware in the kernel.
>
> Honestly, it was not my intent to insult anybody. I'm sorry if I did.
>
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm boycotting feeding any useful information to LWN anymore until they
> retract their latest blanket insult of all DD's and stop being so biased.
Interesting. It's usually the Fedora folks who complain about bias at
LWN.
Honestly, I don't see what the
On to, 2007-01-04 at 15:23 +, Andrew Saunders wrote:
> On 1/4/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm boycotting feeding any useful information to LWN anymore until they
> > retract their latest blanket insult of all DD's and stop being so biased.
> > YMMV.
>
> Could you pretty please
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 05:47:58 -0800 (PST), Ottavio Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Sebastian Feltel wrote:
>> If you are aware of currently unmentioned events, news or whatever
>> please report [1] them. We (meaning the regular contributors to
> DWN)
>> cannot read every single Debian/Linux/FOS
On 1/4/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> There is a wide spread feeling (if you read LWN.net) that a lot that
> happens in Debian today isn't made public.
I'm boycotting feeding any useful information to LWN anymore until they
retract their latest blanket insult of
Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> I don't think he had a moral imperative to do it, but I can't see why
> he or any others involved shouldn't have done it
I was ill during and afterwards, and didn't have energy to mention it,
although my presentation, such as it was, is up on my wiki[3]. Anyway, I
was not i
Sebastian Feltel wrote:
> If you are aware of currently unmentioned events, news or whatever
> please report [1] them. We (meaning the regular contributors to
DWN)
> cannot read every single Debian/Linux/FOSS-related mailing list or
> website so we need your support.
But _this_ is the point: the e
Kevin Mark wrote:
> Hi Ottavio,
> are you suggesting that Joey(or any DD) should have announced
> his/her
> involvment in this type of event on a Debian mailing list?
> Maybe the event was not open to the public?
> Is there a mailing list where DD's mention events they are
> attending on
> behal
Hello,
Ottavio Caruso schrieb am 03.01.2007 15:35:
> http://www.freestandards.org/en/LSB_face-to-face_%28December_2006%29
>
> Quote:"The goal of the Summit is to bring together the key people in
> the Linux packaging world and ISVs to discuss the future of Linux
> packaging. Topics will include R
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 06:35:02AM -0800, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> http://www.freestandards.org/en/LSB_face-to-face_%28December_2006%29
>
> Quote:"The goal of the Summit is to bring together the key people in
> the Linux packaging world and ISVs to discuss the future of Linux
> packaging. Topics wi
Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Why do we [users] have to learn of these things from external
> sources?
debian is volunteer project[0].
maybe you [user] should support debian when it does not fulfil your
expectations. if you can not contribute[1] personally, also donations[2]
are welcome.
[0] http://ww
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