Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On 2013-05-09 22:55:33 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > And I seriously wished it wasn't the case, and that upstream > understood better what the distribution requirements are. [...] Actually, in this case (OpenStack) from what I've seen the upstream community understands the distribut

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On 05/07/2013 03:34 PM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > While there are certainly use cases that will stay in a PPA forever > (Thomas described one) And I seriously wished it wasn't the case, and that upstream understood better what the distribution requirements are. This should be considered as the last

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On 2013-05-09 15:58:02 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 05/07/2013 10:34 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > > > Also, the rules in backports is that packages should be > > > already migrated to testing. The point is, if I had PPAs, I > >

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On 05/07/2013 04:12 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > Providing backports doesn't free you from the burden of making sure > upgrades work. Thomas is facing a very large chunk of work to make sure > upgrades from the no-longer-supported E release to whatever might be in > jessie, since upstream breaks A

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On 05/07/2013 10:34 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> Debian backports offers me *one* repository. I need 3 of them: > I don't see why. The combination of suites we have now should be > enough. Here is what I would do... > >> - stable -1 (currently O

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On 07/05/13 15:34, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Debian backports offers me *one* repository. I need 3 of them: >> - stable -1 (currently OpenStack Folsom) > > Ignore, is there any reason why an old version is interesting? Because Debian testing has

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Debian backports offers me *one* repository. I need 3 of them: I don't see why. The combination of suites we have now should be enough. Here is what I would do... > - stable -1 (currently OpenStack Folsom) Ignore, is there any reason why

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

Paul Wise debian.org> writes: > I think you may have misunderstood the Debian PPA proposal. It will > not be like the Ubuntu PPA system where anyone can upload a package to Call it DPA then? Debianprojectmember Personal Archive bye, //mirabilos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On 05/07/2013 03:11 PM, Brian May wrote: > On 7 May 2013 17:03, Thomas Goirand > wrote: > > Now, if I had PPA, then I could follow upstream release cycles. > Every 6 > months, I would destroy the PPA for OpenStack stable -2, and create a > new stable PPA. I

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

]] Brian May > On 7 May 2013 17:03, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > > Now, if I had PPA, then I could follow upstream release cycles. Every 6 > > months, I would destroy the PPA for OpenStack stable -2, and create a > > new stable PPA. I could put all the backport software I need in there. > > No nee

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On 13204 March 1977, Adrian Alves wrote: > Why I vote NO for ppa in Debian, Unless someone runs a GR, its not a vote. Im happy for changes/improvements, but it will come, so a "no" isn't the way. > Something that everybody loves about debian is you have everything in one > repo for stable testin

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On 7 May 2013 17:03, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Now, if I had PPA, then I could follow upstream release cycles. Every 6 > months, I would destroy the PPA for OpenStack stable -2, and create a > new stable PPA. I could put all the backport software I need in there. > No need to worry anymore about th

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On 05/07/2013 12:23 PM, Adrian Alves wrote: > Why I vote NO for ppa in Debian, > > Something that everybody loves about debian is you have everything in > one repo for stable testing or development, the use of PPA it couse > things like happens in ubuntu when u need something important you need > t

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Adrian Alves wrote: > well as u explain it has logic but whats happens if that never happens on > that way? and packages that deserve to be in Debian repos never reach it > because it never be pushed into? or how you gonna look into all the PPA's > looking for somet

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Brian May wrote: > On 7 May 2013 14:23, Adrian Alves wrote: > >> am not saying PPA is bad just worried about not to lose the magic of >> debian who has everything in one place. >> > > This is already the case. Not everything I package deserves to go into > Debian m

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

On 7 May 2013 14:23, Adrian Alves wrote: > am not saying PPA is bad just worried about not to lose the magic of > debian who has everything in one place. > This is already the case. Not everything I package deserves to go into Debian main. e.g. because it is specific to a problem I am solving an