On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 12:00:56PM +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 08:14:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > For starters, we'd need a *lot* of hardware to be able to do all these
> > builds. Many of them will fail, because there *will* be people who will
> > neglect to te
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 08:14:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> For starters, we'd need a *lot* of hardware to be able to do all these
> builds. Many of them will fail, because there *will* be people who will
> neglect to test their builds, and they will hog the machine so that
> other people (w
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> - people won't test build their sources before upload anymore
> - all those build failures will overload the buildds
If a developer makes more than N uploads in M days that FTBFS on the
buildds, future uploads go to the end of the queue for M days.
Of course once tha
* Adeodato Sim?? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060717 15:11]:
> But also, I'm really very curious (and would welcome insight from any
> Ubuntu people reading this) how the above mentioned concerns for
> "ensuring a minimum amount of testing" are addressed in Ubuntu.
Actually that "minimum amount of testing
> Hi all,
Hi, I wanted to chip in and share a couple thoughts on the matter,
namely:
(a) why (at the moment) "Debian's buildd network" is not an area
particularly suited to get improved by "looking at what Ubuntu is
doing" (in other words, why little Ubuntu does there can be directly
impo
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 03:42:18PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 08:14:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > For starters, we'd need a *lot* of hardware to be able to do all these
> > builds. Many of them will fail, because there *will* be people who will
> > neglect to tes
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 08:14:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> For starters, we'd need a *lot* of hardware to be able to do all these
> builds. Many of them will fail, because there *will* be people who will
> neglect to test their builds, and they will hog the machine so that
> other people (w
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> An upload request (as I call them) would be a .changes file sent to
> the buildd, which would check it for validity and then start
> fetching the components to assemble the source package. So the
At home I had my buildd setup so I could just dump an u
This one time, at band camp, Wouter Verhelst said:
> All that being said, I'm not convinced doing sourceless uploads is
> actually a good idea. It's been proposed in the past, but I've never
> seen arguments that convinced me it would be a good idea. The difference
> with this idea is that you coul
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 04:47:12PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> At https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoMoreSourcePackages is a description of
> the new world order for Ubuntu packages -- which will simplify making
> changes to Ubuntu packages to a matter of simply committing the change
> to the
also sprach Thijs Kinkhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.16.1521 +0200]:
> But more importantly, I don't think that strictly requiring that a
> package is lintian errors clean is a good idea anyway. Suppose that
> there's a security bug in a package that I want to fix quickly. Lintian
> yields an e
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 14:24 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> While it's easy to conceive such certificates, and easy to add such
> functionality to the checker programmes, it seems impossible to make
> it such that they cannot be faked.
I don't like the certificate idea for two reasons.
First, if
also sprach Anthony Towns [2006.07.16.1320 +0200]:
> > http://blog.madduck.net/debian/2005.08.11-rcs-uploads ...
>
> Wow has it really been that long?
>
> Has any code come of it yet?
Well, for one I have not really gotten any input from people, but
that's also partially my fault. I was also di
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 09:10:20AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Anthony Towns [2006.07.16.0847 +0200]:
> > At https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoMoreSourcePackages is a description of
> > the new world order for Ubuntu packages -- which will simplify making
> > changes to Ubuntu packages to
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 10:12:37AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Will you setup the Debian DAK to allow source only uploads and apply
> patches to wanna-build and buildd for anyone willing to work on this?
No. All the above should be doable without needing any changes to any of
the project
* Anthony Towns [060716 08:48]:
> The idea would be, I guess, to be able to setup pbuilder on a server
> somewhere, have it watch for a build instruction -- and then automatically
> check out the source, run a build with pbuilder, make the build log
> available, and if the build was successful, ma
Anthony Towns writes:
> Hi all,
>
> At https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoMoreSourcePackages is a description of
> the new world order for Ubuntu packages -- which will simplify making
> changes to Ubuntu packages to a matter of simply committing the change
> to the source repository with bzr, and running
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 16:47 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> At https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoMoreSourcePackages is a description of
> the new world order for Ubuntu packages -- which will simplify making
> changes to Ubuntu packages to a matter of simply committing the change
> to the source
also sprach Anthony Towns [2006.07.16.0847 +0200]:
> At https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoMoreSourcePackages is a description of
> the new world order for Ubuntu packages -- which will simplify making
> changes to Ubuntu packages to a matter of simply committing the change
> to the source repository with
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