> On 11 Feb 2014, at 16:40, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
>
> (a) please tell us which feature is only available with upstart.
Please don't.
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Quoting John Paul Adrian Glaubitz (glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de):
> On 02/11/2014 04:18 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> > FWIW, disagree - I rarely set up a machine (little laptop or server or
> > container) where I don't need to do one thing or another custom at boot.
> > Throttle back cpus to prevent o
On 02/11/2014 04:18 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> FWIW, disagree - I rarely set up a machine (little laptop or server or
> container) where I don't need to do one thing or another custom at boot.
> Throttle back cpus to prevent overheating, register dynamic dns,
> whatever.
All of that is possible or
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On 02/11/2014 04:21 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> You're hardly an average user (and I do mean this fondly) :)
Reminds me of this, bro:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmPKDeo9Oow#t=3251
"Do you see how many people are using alternative window ma
previously on this list Matthias Urlichs contributed:
> For instance, a daemon which fails to start under sysvinit will
> not even prevent the services which depend on it from starting up.
> How terminally stupid is that?
Perhaps you should rethink that whilst considering the complexi
Hi,
Florian Lohoff:
> My estimation is that 99% of the users dont care - sysvinit is
> sufficient and works. 0.5% think they need this little tiny bit
> of feature which only upstart can give them, 0.5% think they need
> a feature only systemd can give them.
(a) please tell us which feature is on
Quoting Paul Tagliamonte (paul...@debian.org):
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 03:39:49PM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> > I am telling you that by all the technical discussions which of
> > the systems is superior over the other you forget about your users.
>
> Our users shouldn't care what init system
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 09:18:48AM -0600, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> FWIW, disagree - I rarely set up a machine (little laptop or server or
> container) where I don't need to do one thing or another custom at boot.
> Throttle back cpus to prevent overheating, register dynamic dns,
> whatever.
You're ha
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 07:02:19PM +0400, vita...@yourcmc.ru wrote:
> >Our users shouldn't care what init system we use. It's an
> >implementation -- and purely technical -- detail of the OS.
>
> Sorry to interfere with your discussion, but it really sounds like
> some kind of proprietary software
On 11/02/2014 15:39, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 09:06:46AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing this.
>> So, you're frustrated and very disappointed because Ddebian, something
>> you cared about deeply has drifted so far away from what you want that
>> you can no lon
Our users shouldn't care what init system we use. It's an
implementation -- and purely technical -- detail of the OS.
Sorry to interfere with your discussion, but it really sounds like some
kind of proprietary software idea :)
I'm sure a big percent of GNU/Linux (and especially Debian GNU/Lin
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 03:39:49PM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> I am telling you that by all the technical discussions which of
> the systems is superior over the other you forget about your users.
Our users shouldn't care what init system we use. It's an
implementation -- and purely technical -
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 09:06:46AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Thanks for sharing this.
> So, you're frustrated and very disappointed because Ddebian, something
> you cared about deeply has drifted so far away from what you want that
> you can no longer support it?
>
> I hope that if you decide to
Thanks for sharing this.
So, you're frustrated and very disappointed because Ddebian, something
you cared about deeply has drifted so far away from what you want that
you can no longer support it?
I hope that if you decide to fork, you succeed in creating something
that meets your needs. I hope t
Le mardi, 11 février 2014, 11.12:24 Florian Lohoff a écrit :
> Debian is not as useful as it was a couple years back. I started with
> debian because of m68k and later contributed the first mips and mipsel
> packages and hosted the first buildds for mips and mipsel.
Cool, thanks!
> Debian has los
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 01:29:47AM +, Sam Hartman wrote:
> In all seriousness.
> Forking, or creating a Debian downstream because you'd like a different
> boot approach sounds like exactly the sort of constructive approach that
> will help you solve your problems and get an operating syste
Excerpts from Sam Hartman's message of 2014-02-10 17:29:47 -0800:
> > "debianfan" == debianfan writes:
>
> debianfan>I would like to propose forking Debian if the ctte
> debianfan> committee selects systemd
>
> It's with great hesitation that I jump in here, and I know what I'm
> "debianfan" == debianfan writes:
debianfan>I would like to propose forking Debian if the ctte
debianfan> committee selects systemd
It's with great hesitation that I jump in here, and I know what I'm
doing is wrong.
I hope I've earned enough credibility over the years in the
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