On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 09:06:46AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Thanks for sharing this.
> So, you're frustrated and very disappointed because Ddebian, something
> you cared about deeply has drifted so far away from what you want that
> you can no longer support it?
> 
> I hope that if you decide to fork, you succeed in creating something
> that meets your needs.  I hope that where appropriate we (both the
> Debian community and the broader FLOSS community)  can work together
> where appropriate.
> 
> Again, thanks for being open and sharing how this is affecting you.

I think i made my point that forking will not help the issue. 

I am telling you that by all the technical discussions which of
the systems is superior over the other you forget about your users.

My estimation is that 99% of the users dont care - sysvinit is
sufficient and works. 0.5% think they need this little tiny bit
of feature which only upstart can give them, 0.5% think they need
a feature only systemd can give them.

By following either of the 0.5% "majority" you piss off
50% because their beloved sysvinit which has been doing
what it should for decades is gone.

And i think i made the point that the voice who said "fork debian"
is just telling you in their way that Debian has lost another supporter.


Debian - The Universal operating system whose priority are their users?


The systemd issue has gone out of proportion by far - Its a technical
issue which is getting debated over a lot. But i think the systemd
proponents have made a much broader issue from it which is now about
trust, choice, and taste. You cant win here.


Flo
PS: I talking about Debian as "you" because i dont feel beeing part
of Debian anymore.
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Florian Lohoff                                                 f...@zz.de

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