Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Rob Browning writes ("Re: Shadow problems"): > Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You can ofcourse make the new directory setgid (chmod g+s). All files > > created in that directory will have their gid set to that of the directory.. > &

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-19 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Richard Kaszeta) wrote: > Quick question (which may show some of my ignorance of the current > linux shadow stuff): > > Will inclusion of the 'shadow' package as default interfere with the > use of NIS passwd/group entries? Our installation is fairly dependent > on NIS. NIS and shadow don't

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-19 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Michael Meskes) wrote: > > M> 1) Should we change the login package to be shadow aware? Or should > > shadow > I talked to Guy (login maintainer) about this problem a while ago and treid > to persuade him to use ths shadow login as standard (it works without the > shadow file, too). But he pr

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-19 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Rob Browning) wrote: > Hmm, I often use newgrp when I'm about to do a set of actions where I > want to make sure all the new files get a particular group. For > example, say I'm building a package in my home directory and I want > all the files created to be group src because I'm likely to mo

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Bruce Perens
The "shadow" feature does not preclude use of NIS passwd and group maps. Only users that have "*" as their password field will get their passwords from /etc/shadow or /etc/gshadow (file names may vary). If our NIS package replaces "passwd", etc., with NIS-master-server-aware versions, that package

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Bruce Perens
Please work out with Guy Maor (loginutils maintainer) which login to make standard. I think I will have the set-up script start the system with shadow enabled, and let the user take it out if they must by removing /etc/shadow . Thanks Bruce -- Clinton isn't perfect, but I l

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Richard Kaszeta
>Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org (Debian Development) > >Bruce Perens writes: >> >> Let's plan on having "shadow" be part of the base for 1.2 . We should thus >> have the default "login" be aware of it, etc. > >But the question remains, which login? The standard one patched, or the >shadow one,

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Michael Meskes
Bruce Perens writes: > > Let's plan on having "shadow" be part of the base for 1.2 . We should thus > have the default "login" be aware of it, etc. But the question remains, which login? The standard one patched, or the shadow one, or both and the user decides? Michael -- Michael Meskes

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Michael Meskes
David Frey writes: > M> 1) Should we change the login package to be shadow aware? Or should shadow > M> come with its own login (that works with and without shadow password > files)? > M> Or should we use the shadow login as standard? > > I'd prefer if we would be shadow's login, since it is far

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Michael Meskes
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes: > > Well the login we're using now is from util-linux, and unless you can get > the shadow patches into the upstream source (which wouldn't be a bad idea) > it would be easier to use the login from the shadow package I think. > You can use the Replaces: header for th

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Bruce Perens writes: Bruce> Let's plan on having "shadow" be part of the base for 1.2 . We Bruce> should thus have the default "login" be aware of it, etc. Let's not forget about xdm, please. -- Dirk Eddelb"uttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Bruce Perens
Let's plan on having "shadow" be part of the base for 1.2 . We should thus have the default "login" be aware of it, etc. Thanks Bruce -- Clinton isn't perfect, but I like him a lot more than Dole. Please register to vote, and vote for Democrats. Bruce Perens AB6

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-17 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miquel van Smoorenburg writes: >Which reminds me: RedHat is going to integrate PAM into their next release. >Perhaps now is a good time to look if we should consider using that too, >or if we think that shadow is good enough for now. Someone's already compiled libpa

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-17 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Michael Meskes) wrote: > I'm currently trying to finish the work on the shadow package. However, > there are some decision to make: > > 1) Should we change the login package to be shadow aware? Or should shadow > come with its own login (that works with and without shadow password files)? > O