Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Michael Hanke
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 07:52:11AM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Michael Hanke wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 12:52:53PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > >> Was you aware about dpkg-vendor at the time of writing this script? > > > > Yes, but AFAIK it was neither

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Michael Hanke wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 12:52:53PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 11:17:44AM +0100, Michael Hanke wrote: >> > >> > Not exactly the same thing, but for backporting for various releases we >> > (NeuroDebian) quite often h

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/07/2012 05:34 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > Not within Debian uploads and buildd's, true, but there are good reasons > for this to remain technically possible for derivatives. The ability for > someone downstream of Debian to patch debian/control[.in] Our policy doesn't apply to derivatives (th

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/07/2012 07:15 PM, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > Whether it might make sense for derivatives to mangle upstream with > packaging changes in other files might be a matter of opinion > (I'm personally quite happy that is no longer possible), but > debian/control should really be something you should

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Gergely Nagy
Thomas Goirand writes: > On 03/07/2012 06:33 PM, Neil Williams wrote: >> Even with such calls, I don't see how to remove a single line from >> a .install file using dpkg-vendor. (Typically this is necessary when >> the line in question contains a wildcard but the modified build means >> that no f

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/07/2012 06:33 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > Even with such calls, I don't see how to remove a single line from > a .install file using dpkg-vendor. (Typically this is necessary when > the line in question contains a wildcard but the modified build means > that no files can exist which match said

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Michael Hanke
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 12:52:53PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 11:17:44AM +0100, Michael Hanke wrote: > > > > Not exactly the same thing, but for backporting for various releases we > > (NeuroDebian) quite often have to adjust the Debian packaging itself, > > but still wa

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 11:17:44AM +0100, Michael Hanke wrote: > > Not exactly the same thing, but for backporting for various releases we > (NeuroDebian) quite often have to adjust the Debian packaging itself, > but still want to have everything stored in a single source package. > And we do stor

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:27:27 + Simon McVittie wrote: > On 07/03/12 09:34, Neil Williams wrote: > > Turn the problem around - if someone (me) comes to you about one > > of your packages with a set of changes which are necessary to be > > able to rebuild your package, say, without perl or witho

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Neil Williams [120307 10:35]: > Not within Debian uploads and buildd's, true, but there are good reasons > for this to remain technically possible for derivatives. The ability for > someone downstream of Debian to patch debian/control[.in] and [...] On the other hand that is also a very good re

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, Neil Williams wrote: > Quick question, therefore, what is the method of using dpkg-vendor to > modify a postinst which uses a grep option which is not supported by > busybox? > > Or a method for removing a single line from a .install file? Like you want. One possible approach

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I've just seen an (ugly) instance of many quilt patches in > debian/patches that are patching things inside the debian/ folder. I am > wondering if it would be wise to forbid this entirely, and write about > it in the policy (maybe it is ther

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Raphael Hertzog writes: > Hi, > > On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> I've just seen an (ugly) instance of many quilt patches in >> debian/patches that are patching things inside the debian/ folder. I am >> wondering if it would be wise to forbid this entirely, and write about >> it in

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:52:57 +0100 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > I've just seen an (ugly) instance of many quilt patches in > > debian/patches that are patching things inside the debian/ folder. I am > > wondering if it would be wise to forbid this entirel

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Simon McVittie
On 07/03/12 09:34, Neil Williams wrote: > Turn the problem around - if someone (me) comes to you about one > of your packages with a set of changes which are necessary to be > able to rebuild your package, say, without perl or without SSL or > without LDAP support - how would you prefer that to be

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Michael Hanke
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 10:52:57AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > It's already caught by lintian as an error: > http://lintian.debian.org/tags/patch-modifying-debian-files.html > > In any case it's definitely not a good idea and it breaks when you use 3.0 > (quilt). > > I don't know of any valid

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I've just seen an (ugly) instance of many quilt patches in > debian/patches that are patching things inside the debian/ folder. I am > wondering if it would be wise to forbid this entirely, and write about > it in the policy (maybe it is there alrea

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 16:53:00 +0800 Thomas Goirand wrote: > I've just seen an (ugly) instance of many quilt patches in > debian/patches that are patching things inside the debian/ folder. I am > wondering if it would be wise to forbid this entirely, and write about > it in the policy (maybe it is

Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, I've just seen an (ugly) instance of many quilt patches in debian/patches that are patching things inside the debian/ folder. I am wondering if it would be wise to forbid this entirely, and write about it in the policy (maybe it is there already?). There's no sane reason why this would happen: