Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-24 Thread Yann Dirson
Enrique Zanardi writes: > As elf.h is unrelated to libelf in Linux systems (I don't know > about it in SVR4 or Solaris, from where that library was ported), > this test is broken for Linux. Don't know about these systems, but HP-UX 9.x had a similar problem, having a efl.h file, without neces

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-17 Thread Behan Webster
Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote: > > If you think about it, there's really no reason to select a shared > > library package by hand; if you want a binary that uses it, it'll > > depend on it; if you want to build against it, you install the -dev > > package (which depends on it). The only time you

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-17 Thread Martin Alonso Soto Jacome
Charles Briscoe-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a suggestion for libraries: most users don't want or need to > know about shared libraries when installing and upgrading their system, > or when adding an app etc. I totally agree here. The Debian package format includes enough informatio

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-17 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
Santiago Vila Doncel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think libraries should not need priorities (or they need them much less >than ordinary program packages). So if they have more or less priority, I >really don't mind. Go ahead. I have a suggestion for libraries: most users don't want or need to

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-16 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > So IMHO you should have added to your initial list of packages the ones on > > which they depend, until all dependencies are satisfied. dselect does this > > automatically. If you don't like it, it is supposed to be done by hand. > > If this is true then ther

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-16 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > > On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > Two packages in the list of "important" refused to install because they > > > declared (correctly) their dep

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > Two packages in the list of "important" refused to install because they > > declared (correctly) their dependence upon packages of lower priority. > > > > at

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-16 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: > Two packages in the list of "important" refused to install because they > declared (correctly) their dependence upon packages of lower priority. > > at depends on libelf0 priority: optional >

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-16 Thread joost witteveen
> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > [snip] > > It seems to me that packages of any priority level should not be dependent > > upon packages of lower priority. > > I totally agree to this. Yes, I noticed this myself too (in libg++272). I didn't quite know what to do with it at the time

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-16 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: [snip] > It seems to me that packages of any priority level should not be dependent > upon packages of lower priority. I totally agree to this. AFAIK, the reason for the "priorities" is that the users get "good defaults" in dselect. Thus, if someone wants

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-16 Thread Clint Adams
> I don't see your point, and you seem to have missed mine. My point is that there's no need for a package with no user-level functionality of its own, such as a library, to have a priority of its own. If an Important package such as 'at' depends on libelf0 for whatever dubious reason, libelf0 mi

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-15 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > >Two packages in the list of "important" refused to install because they > > >declared (correctly) their dependence upon packages of lower priority. > > > > > > at depends on libelf0 priority: optional > > > > This dependency isn't

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-15 Thread Thomas Koenig
Dale Scheetz wrote: >> >at depends on libelf0 priority: optional >> >> This dependency isn't needed... hmm... >> >> For some reason, the configure script created by autoconf always >> looks for -lelf and, if it can find it, adds it to the list of >> searched libraries. >> >

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-15 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Clint Adams wrote: > > > Does this make sense to anyone but me? > > It seems unnecessary for shared libraries to have priorities if they're > useless without programs which depend upon them. > I don't see your point, and you seem to have missed mine. I was trying to point

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-15 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Thomas Koenig wrote: > Dale Scheetz wrote: > > >Two packages in the list of "important" refused to install because they > >declared (correctly) their dependence upon packages of lower priority. > > > > at depends on libelf0 priority: optional > > This d

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-15 Thread Thomas Koenig
Dale Scheetz wrote: >Two packages in the list of "important" refused to install because they >declared (correctly) their dependence upon packages of lower priority. > > at depends on libelf0 priority: optional This dependency isn't needed... hmm... For some reason, the co

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-15 Thread Clint Adams
> Does this make sense to anyone but me? It seems unnecessary for shared libraries to have priorities if they're useless without programs which depend upon them. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Package priorities and dependencies.

1997-06-15 Thread Dale Scheetz
I have been working on a prototype of a system to allow "Custom Systems" that can be installed "simply" with dselect. The approach has been to make a subdirectory, containing links into the archive for the packages that are needed by the "Custom System". The technique is working out fine, but I hav