Re: Bug#264069: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-02 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Pascal Hakim wrote: I've just created the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. You can subscribe from http://lists.debian.org/debian-webapps/ And you can join the live discussions on #debian-webapps on irc.oftc.net :) Let's have a nice collaborative work fellow developers! -- Alexis Sukrieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#264069: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-02 Thread Pascal Hakim
I've just created the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. You can subscribe from http://lists.debian.org/debian-webapps/ Cheers, Pasc On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 13:50 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:21:30AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > > It really seems that such a list is need

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-02 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:21:30AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > It really seems that such a list is needed, a lot of webapp maintainers > would be happy to have a common place to talk about that. Definitely. > Here is the name that sounds to be the good one, according to this thread: > >

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-02 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 11:54:07AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > Neil McGovern wrote: > >As per the list creation guidelines, I'll suggest the following, unless > >anyone can improve on it: > > Ok, thanks. > > I sent your report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and retitled the bug. > Thanks, saves me hav

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-02 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Neil McGovern wrote: As per the list creation guidelines, I'll suggest the following, unless anyone can improve on it: Ok, thanks. I sent your report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and retitled the bug. Cheers. -- Alexis Sukrieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-02 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:21:30AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > >>>If interested people would think a l.d.o list > >>>is better, that could also be nice. > >> > >>Once you've got me convinced the list is a good idea, it usually doesn't > >>take too long to creat

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-02 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: If interested people would think a l.d.o list is better, that could also be nice. Once you've got me convinced the list is a good idea, it usually doesn't take too long to create it. It really seems that such a list is needed, a lot of webapp maintainers would be h

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
> So, I'm not sure such kind of list > will be useful for a long period. Of course, we could discuss about > the meaning of 'long' in Debian metrics... I disagree with that. A lot of people use webapps (through their browser) a lot more than all the others. I already explained my PoV about weba

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2005-05-01 kello 21:41 +0100, Neil McGovern kirjoitti: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I keep thinking that it should be in plural: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
sean finney a écrit : On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 04:34:17PM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: I agree. That cannot hurt to have a working area. I also vote for a SVN account. i didn't think you could do svn on alioth. can you? Well not it depends on what you mean by "on alioth". I know that you can reque

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:24:53PM +1000, Pascal Hakim wrote: > > I think a suitable section in debian policy would be appropriate. And > > mere technical discussions about the policy contents are also > > appropriate in d-policy. All other technical discussions should go > > in an alioth list. My

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:01:42AM -0400, sean finney wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 01:33:08PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > Eh, because you believe a new lists.d.o list could take a bit of delay, > > an alioth list is better? > > > > Sorry, but I don't agree with the reasoning -- lis

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 03:38:51PM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > If I understand well, those two names could be interesting: > > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I find the first one a little bit ugly (the "webapp" word is not that > clean for a mailing list I think) and I also

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread sean finney
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 04:34:17PM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > I agree. That cannot hurt to have a working area. > I also vote for a SVN account. i didn't think you could do svn on alioth. can you? > >so, that said, i'm going to go ahead and apply for an alioth project > >for the packaging re

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
sean finney a écrit : well, given that there will most likely result a package or two from the discussion, as well as a policy (hopefully :), and both of which will need some kind of working repository to which we all have access, it would make sense to start up an alioth project anyway. I agree.

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread sean finney
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 01:33:08PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Eh, because you believe a new lists.d.o list could take a bit of delay, > an alioth list is better? > > Sorry, but I don't agree with the reasoning -- lists.debian.org is for > general discussion lists, while alioth is more f

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
If I understand well, those two names could be interesting: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I find the first one a little bit ugly (the "webapp" word is not that clean for a mailing list I think) and I also find the second problematic because of the word "packages". This leads me to

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Pascal Hakim a Ãcrit : - debian-www@lists.debian.org err... you're kidding right? Hmmm.. he he :) Sorry for that stupid mistake! -- Alexis Sukrieh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Pascal Hakim
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 12:08 +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:56:47AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > > Pascal Hakim wrote: > > >Speaking as a listmaster, I believe that a list that would be used to > > >provide people with a place to discuss the packaging of web-a

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 02:28:00PM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > So let's find a name, here are some ideas I have "on the fly", feel free > to comment on it: > >- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ugly name IMHO. But then again, who am I to say you shouldn't be using an ugly name? ;-) >- debian-www@li

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Pascal Hakim
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 14:28 +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > Jeroen van Wolffelaar a Ãcrit : > > I'm strongly in favour of a lists.debian.org, and I'm sure it'll be > > created swiftly when we choose a sane name for it. > > If possible, I also think that a lists.debian.org is better, and will > und

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Jeroen van Wolffelaar a écrit : I'm strongly in favour of a lists.debian.org, and I'm sure it'll be created swiftly when we choose a sane name for it. If possible, I also think that a lists.debian.org is better, and will underline the fact that a real coordination is needed around webapp packages

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 12:08:01PM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:56:47AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > > Pascal Hakim wrote: > > >Speaking as a listmaster, I believe that a list that would be used to > > >provide people with a place to discuss the packaging o

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:56:47AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > Pascal Hakim wrote: > >Speaking as a listmaster, I believe that a list that would be used to > >provide people with a place to discuss the packaging of web-apps, as > >well as standard things associated with it is a great idea. It's

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Pascal Hakim wrote: Speaking as a listmaster, I believe that a list that would be used to provide people with a place to discuss the packaging of web-apps, as well as standard things associated with it is a great idea. It's better than debian-apache (after all, there's other web servers out there),

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Pascal Hakim
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 10:14 +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 07:28:48PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > > I've lurked for a while in [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoping that that would > > be the right place for such discussions, and, when they happen, the > > subscribers are

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 07:28:48PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > I've lurked for a while in [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoping that that would > be the right place for such discussions, and, when they happen, the > subscribers are usually pretty clued-in and interested. Perhaps it is > the natural place to

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
I've lurked for a while in [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoping that that would be the right place for such discussions, and, when they happen, the subscribers are usually pretty clued-in and interested. Perhaps it is the natural place to discuss web-apps? At least until traffic is sufficient that the Debian A

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-04-30 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Alexis Sukrieh said: > Neil McGovern a écrit : > > >To do this, it would be a good idea IMO to have a maining list. This has > >already been suggested[1][2], and I agree that a debian-webapp list > >should be created. > > I also think this is a good idea. Several time

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-04-30 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Neil McGovern a écrit : To do this, it would be a good idea IMO to have a maining list. This has already been suggested[1][2], and I agree that a debian-webapp list should be created. I also think this is a good idea. Several times in the past I'd loved to mail such a mailing list when I faced web

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-04-30 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 01:00:18PM -0400, sean finney wrote: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 05:32:35PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > There's been a bit of discussion[0] recently on the debian-security list > > with regards to how include()ed files should be handled. > > and this for the most part is

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-04-30 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 05:32:35PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > There's been a bit of discussion[0] recently on the debian-security list > with regards to how include()ed files should be handled. and this for the most part is a good practice. if the file does not need to be directly accessed by

PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-04-30 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi all, There's been a bit of discussion[0] recently on the debian-security list with regards to how include()ed files should be handled. I think that, due to the large number of packages that are webapps, a policy shoudl be created on how we handle these. To do this, it would be a good idea IMO