Em Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:29:31 +0200
Michal Čihař <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 03:59:26 -0700 (PDT)
> Ottavio Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >
> > > That is a *very* bad idea.
> >
> > Even only on a small details, I am please to see a few
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:00:13PM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 August 2006 15:43, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > but that Solaris itself is not
> > particularly well suited to PC-class hardware (because it has less
> > drivers, or whatever).
>
> This is true, but OpenSolaris is getti
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 15:43, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:46:49PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> > hmmm... I don't think a sane seasoned Solaris admin would evaluate a
> > Unix-like operating system for server-class work by installing its
> > 'Desktop' task, perhap
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 03:59:26AM -0700, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > That is a *very* bad idea.
>
> Even only on a small details, I am please to see a few
> people on a Debian mailing list not blindly accepting
> whatever comes from the Ubuntu world.
Well, yeah, but in fa
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:46:49PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> hmmm... I don't think a sane seasoned Solaris admin would evaluate a
> Unix-like operating system for server-class work by installing its
> 'Desktop' task, perhaps?
A seasoned Solaris admin may very well be of the opinion tha
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 03:59:26 -0700 (PDT)
Ottavio Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> > That is a *very* bad idea.
>
> Even only on a small details, I am please to see a few
> people on a Debian mailing list not blindly accepting
> whatever comes from the Ubuntu world.
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> That is a *very* bad idea.
Even only on a small details, I am please to see a few
people on a Debian mailing list not blindly accepting
whatever comes from the Ubuntu world.
Brand me a troll, but lately this looks like the trend
(see debian-project).
Ottavio
Ottavio C
[Sorry for sending the message only to you John =(]
Em Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:03:52 -0500
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> Not if this is their first exposure to Debian. Say you were a
> seasoned Solaris admin, and you installed Debian to play around with.
> You get a prompt saying that
> Please don't mess with gettext this way. You should ask Ubuntu people to
> rewrite the lines so that the 'branding' is removed or, at most, is handled
> by a variable that *is* replaced at runtime (this is what was introduced in
> Debian Installer). If you do string-based replacement you are goin
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> The second feature is quite cool; update-notifier uses hal to detect
> that a new CD/DVD was inserted and tries to figure out whether that is
> a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and to
> avoid mes
Em Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:58:53 +0900
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> Maybe a way to solve the problem would be to make clear in the package
> name, documentation and popup messages that it is not a native Debian
> tool? For instance, it could be called "Ubuntu update notifier for
> D
Le Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 09:03:52PM -0500, John Goerzen a écrit :
>
> Say you were a
> seasoned Solaris admin, and you installed Debian to play around with.
> You get a prompt saying that you have to reboot because zlib or
> something has been upgraded. Are you going to think this is a serious
> o
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> The second feature is quite cool; update-notifier uses hal to detect
> that a new CD/DVD was inserted and tries to figure out whether that is
> a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and to
> avoid mes
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 09:45:02PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> Em Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:26:51 -0500
> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
>
> > To say that any library fixing security problems will require a reboot
> > is outrageous. It is quite possible to restart any impacted ser
Em Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:31:50 +0200
Michal Politowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:29:13 -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> [...]
> > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and
> > to avoid messing with translations, the messages have Ubuntu
> >
Em Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:38:20 +0200
"Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> > update-notifier is a program made by the Ubuntu guys which puts a
> > notification icon in the notification area and warns the user a
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> update-notifier is a program made by the Ubuntu guys which puts a
> notification icon in the notification area and warns the user about
> updates being available, and allowing them to run update-manager (a
> simple upgrade man
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:29:13 -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
[...]
> a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and to
> avoid messing with translations, the messages have Ubuntu replaced by
> Debian in runtime, after the translation is got from gettext if the CD
> that was
Em Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:26:51 -0500
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> I understand that this tool may be aimed at those that don't have a
> great deal of experience, but I think that you are presenting
> misleading information to everyone.
Exactly.
> To say that any library fixing secu
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
>
> The first feature is useful for those packages which are critical, and
> which really want a reboot after upgrade, such as kernel, perhaps libc,
> and any library or package fixing security problems. These simply need
> to
Fellow Debianers,
I'm writing to you all in order to present some new features added to
the Debian Desktop, and to discuss how we could make use of them in
some of our subsystems.
I just uploaded update-notifier 0.42.12-1 to unstable. Unfortunately I
lost dinstall for the day, so we'll only see t
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