2013/7/22 Raphael Hertzog :
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
>> I want the process to be something like:
>>
>> - New PPAMAIN
>> - Upload new package
>> - "NMU" packages to work with the new stuff (this needs to be
>> something that the project is OK with) inside the
Hi,
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> I want the process to be something like:
>
> - New PPAMAIN
> - Upload new package
> - "NMU" packages to work with the new stuff (this needs to be
> something that the project is OK with) inside the PPA
> - Fiddle
> - Push it back up
to become a complete
free-for-all, even only amongst those who have upload rights. All
developers need to work with others to make changes and that's where
all the arguments start, especially if someone wants to change the
default something to something else.
No developer is an island.
Innovatio
Heyya, Michael,
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 05:42:35PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
>
> I do see that some innovative ideas cause breakage. And sometimes breaking
> things may result in progress. All I was saying is that innovation and
> breaking
> things are not the same.
Granted. I 100% agree.
Hi Paul, hi all,
> Ahoy, fellow developers,
>
>
> Having followed the recent threads, I've been growing concerned - not of
> sticking with an old init system, or switching to a new one, or even the
> god-aweful tone of every damn post on that thread (srsly guise).
>
> I'm mostly concerned that
oken to unstable (lots
> of users, might end up in stable and have to support it for 5 years),
> how can we, as a project, step up innovation in Debian? Where can we
> break these things and try out new bits of integration?
>
> I certenly don't have time to manage setting u
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 04:39:54PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > I feel the subject of this thread is not very well aligned with your
> > reasoning -
> > I don't think innovation==breaking things!? At least for myself the init
> > system
>
> I very much disagree.
>
>
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 04:39:54PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
> [...]
>
> I feel the subject of this thread is not very well aligned with your
> reasoning -
> I don't think innovation==breaking things!? At least for myself the init
> system
I very much disagree.
"Without deviation fro
ve a *hard* time trying
out big, breakey things -- I know, we're Debian, we're stable, I get
that.
So, given that no one wants to upload something broken to unstable (lots
of users, might end up in stable and have to support it for 5 years),
how can we, as a project, step up innovation in
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