Ahoy, I am not active in Debian development much but I do observe it closely and must say that Debian needs innovation a lot - not for purpose to innovate but there are so much talented people with great ideas that just need to *explode*. For me, unstable or experimental should be *just do it* and develop it so Debian gains momentum (or some other nice solution to gain that).
DD's should encourage among themselves this kind thing and to pass it on others in Debian project (contributors of any kind - code developers, translators, artist etc.). It would be good to quickly create some base (innovation is quick) like some website with database so everyone could be pointed at and to announce it on Bits, News and every Linux related website/blog such as Distrowatch, Phoronix (we may or may not like those but they have fair audience), LWN, Linux Foundation etc. Btw, maybe we should call/encourage some (for now) non-Debian developers to attend DebConf and Debian IRC channels more frequently? I know we are welcoming but we **suck** at exposing our project to worldwide community because its really hard for average developer to even find about Debian Project on itself (or am I mistaking :p ). Cheers, zlatan On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Paul Tagliamonte <paul...@debian.org>wrote: > Ahoy, fellow developers, > > > Having followed the recent threads, I've been growing concerned - not of > sticking with an old init system, or switching to a new one, or even the > god-aweful tone of every damn post on that thread (srsly guise). > > I'm mostly concerned that we, as a project, have a *hard* time trying > out big, breakey things -- I know, we're Debian, we're stable, I get > that. > > So, given that no one wants to upload something broken to unstable (lots > of users, might end up in stable and have to support it for 5 years), > how can we, as a project, step up innovation in Debian? Where can we > break these things and try out new bits of integration? > > I certenly don't have time to manage setting up infra to manage a "fork" > (or even a private overlay) of Debian, so how can we support these new > bits inside Debian? > > We do have PPAs coming up - we could use those with breaking "NMUs" (PPA > Owner Uploads? POU?) of packages to help with integration, but I fear > there might be project backlash over that. > > > So, what do *you* think? How can we break more of Debian for fun and > profit? > > > Cheers, > Paul > > > -- > .''`. Paul Tagliamonte <paul...@debian.org> > : :' : Proud Debian Developer > `. `'` 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 > `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag > -- Its not the COST, its the VALUE!
