> We did not *predict* a release date, we *set* a release *target*. It's true
> that etch won't be released until it's ready, but treating "when it's ready"
> as the only target is a cop-out; the only way a project as large as Debian
> can ever *be* ready is if a sufficiently large fraction of our
On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 08:28:39PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote:
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> >>Debian will get the Etch release out this year. Honest. What
> >>could possibly go wrong? Thereafter, the Debian developers will
> >>go back to arguing abo
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>> Debian will get the Etch release out this year. Honest. What
>> could possibly go wrong? Thereafter, the Debian developers will
>> go back to arguing about firmware in the kernel.
>>
>> Honestly, it was not my intent
Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm boycotting feeding any useful information to LWN anymore until they
>> retract their latest blanket insult of all DD's and stop being so biased.
[...]
> Honestly, I don't see what the problem is here. The text in question is
> (p
On Jan 05, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I read it, there's an implication that all I, as a DD, am good for is
> failing to get Debian releases out and spending all my time in pointless
> discussion. I don't really feel that accurately describes me.
But it accurately describes many pro
On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 04:33:48PM -0700, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm boycotting feeding any useful information to LWN anymore until they
> > retract their latest blanket insult of all DD's and stop being so biased.
>
> Interesting. It's usually the Fe
On Thu, Jan 04, 2007, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Debian will get the Etch release out this year. Honest. What
> could possibly go wrong? Thereafter, the Debian developers will
> go back to arguing about firmware in the kernel.
Perhaps avoiding "the Debian developers" would make it
Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Debian will get the Etch release out this year. Honest. What
> could possibly go wrong? Thereafter, the Debian developers will
> go back to arguing about firmware in the kernel.
>
> Honestly, it was not my intent to insult anybody. I'm sorry if I did.
>
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm boycotting feeding any useful information to LWN anymore until they
> retract their latest blanket insult of all DD's and stop being so biased.
Interesting. It's usually the Fedora folks who complain about bias at
LWN.
Honestly, I don't see what the
On to, 2007-01-04 at 15:23 +, Andrew Saunders wrote:
> On 1/4/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm boycotting feeding any useful information to LWN anymore until they
> > retract their latest blanket insult of all DD's and stop being so biased.
> > YMMV.
>
> Could you pretty please
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 05:47:58 -0800 (PST), Ottavio Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Sebastian Feltel wrote:
>> If you are aware of currently unmentioned events, news or whatever
>> please report [1] them. We (meaning the regular contributors to
> DWN)
>> cannot read every single Debian/Linux/FOS
On 1/4/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> There is a wide spread feeling (if you read LWN.net) that a lot that
> happens in Debian today isn't made public.
I'm boycotting feeding any useful information to LWN anymore until they
retract their latest blanket insult of
Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> I don't think he had a moral imperative to do it, but I can't see why
> he or any others involved shouldn't have done it
I was ill during and afterwards, and didn't have energy to mention it,
although my presentation, such as it was, is up on my wiki[3]. Anyway, I
was not i
Sebastian Feltel wrote:
> If you are aware of currently unmentioned events, news or whatever
> please report [1] them. We (meaning the regular contributors to
DWN)
> cannot read every single Debian/Linux/FOSS-related mailing list or
> website so we need your support.
But _this_ is the point: the e
Kevin Mark wrote:
> Hi Ottavio,
> are you suggesting that Joey(or any DD) should have announced
> his/her
> involvment in this type of event on a Debian mailing list?
> Maybe the event was not open to the public?
> Is there a mailing list where DD's mention events they are
> attending on
> behal
Hello,
Ottavio Caruso schrieb am 03.01.2007 15:35:
> http://www.freestandards.org/en/LSB_face-to-face_%28December_2006%29
>
> Quote:"The goal of the Summit is to bring together the key people in
> the Linux packaging world and ISVs to discuss the future of Linux
> packaging. Topics will include R
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 06:35:02AM -0800, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> http://www.freestandards.org/en/LSB_face-to-face_%28December_2006%29
>
> Quote:"The goal of the Summit is to bring together the key people in
> the Linux packaging world and ISVs to discuss the future of Linux
> packaging. Topics wi
Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Why do we [users] have to learn of these things from external
> sources?
debian is volunteer project[0].
maybe you [user] should support debian when it does not fulfil your
expectations. if you can not contribute[1] personally, also donations[2]
are welcome.
[0] http://ww
http://www.freestandards.org/en/LSB_face-to-face_%28December_2006%29
Quote:"The goal of the Summit is to bring together the key people in
the Linux packaging world and ISVs to discuss the future of Linux
packaging. Topics will include RPM, the role of other packaging
technologies (dpkg, APT, yum,
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