Re: Hyper-V support on Debian (Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2016-01-24 Thread Joshua R. Poulson
In progress! :) Thanks, --jrp On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Hideki Yamane wrote: > On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 05:57:48 -0700 > "Joshua R. Poulson" wrote: > > I will certainly update that page when the time comes. We're looking > > forward to it. > > Yeah, now Debian8.3 includes hyperv-daemons pac

Hyper-V support on Debian (Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2016-01-23 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 05:57:48 -0700 "Joshua R. Poulson" wrote: > I will certainly update that page when the time comes. We're looking > forward to it. Yeah, now Debian8.3 includes hyperv-daemons package :) Please look into it. -- Regards, Hideki Yamane henrich @ debian.or.jp/org http:/

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-12-21 Thread Arto Jantunen
On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 18:45:57 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > On Fri Dec 04, 2015 at 16:27:17 +0800, Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars) wrote: > >My friend from Microsoft shared > >[1]https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/debian-images-now-available-o > >n-azure/ to me. > >Maybe the prob

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-12-04 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Fri Dec 04, 2015 at 16:27:17 +0800, Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars) wrote: >My friend from Microsoft shared >[1]https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/debian-images-now-available-o >n-azure/ to me. >Maybe the problem is fixed now. Yes, we released the first version of the Azur

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-12-04 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 13:41 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > So naturally my client is concerned that by choosing Debian they > won't have > benefits of SLA like they would have if they choose Ubuntu because > the latter > is "endorsed". > > I'm not sure what can be done about this. Personally I'm

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-12-04 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars)
My friend from Microsoft shared https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/debian-images-now-available-on-azure/ to me. Maybe the problem is fixed now. $4 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm struggling to convince a client of mine to use Debian. They alrea

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-11-23 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 13:09 -0800, Joshua R. Poulson wrote: > Sorry, I assume you meant binary-only in context. It was certainly not > our intent to ask for something like that. Ah. I'm assuming that there's been a confusion of terminology here. A binary package in this context is a package that a

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-11-23 Thread Joshua R. Poulson
Sorry, I assume you meant binary-only in context. It was certainly not our intent to ask for something like that. Sorry again, --jrp On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 12:43 -0800, Joshua R. Poulson wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Adam

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-11-23 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 12:43 -0800, Joshua R. Poulson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Adam D. > Barratt wrote: > I assumed that there would have been a discussion - if only > because > adding a binary package to stable is a reasonably exceptional > circums

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-11-23 Thread Joshua R. Poulson
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > I assumed that there would have been a discussion - if only because > adding a binary package to stable is a reasonably exceptional > circumstance - but couldn't find one. Why would there be a binary-only package for the hyper-v driver

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-11-23 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 21:53 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 21:34 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 20:45 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > On Sun, 2015-10-18 at 12:35 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:54:51 +0100 > > > > Ben Hutchi

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-11-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 21:34 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 20:45 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sun, 2015-10-18 at 12:35 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:54:51 +0100 > > > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > > It would be built from the linux-tools source

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-11-22 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 20:45 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2015-10-18 at 12:35 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:54:51 +0100 > > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > It would be built from the linux-tools source package. We could > > > cherry-pick more recent changes in tools/hv

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-11-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2015-10-18 at 12:35 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:54:51 +0100 > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > It would be built from the linux-tools source package.  We could > > cherry-pick more recent changes in tools/hv/ if necessary. > >  Please! :) I've uploaded this to jessie-pro

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-10-17 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:54:51 +0100 Ben Hutchings wrote: > It would be built from the linux-tools source package.  We could > cherry-pick more recent changes in tools/hv/ if necessary. Please! :) -- Regards, Hideki Yamane henrich @ debian.or.jp/org http://wiki.debian.org/HidekiYamane

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-10-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2015-10-17 at 13:43 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Hideki Yamane: > > >  So I thinks we should care such situations, and try to improve it > >  by adding hyperv-daemons package to stable (it means for > > production > >  system). > > Sure.  The first step is to determine if we want to b

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-10-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Hideki Yamane: > So I thinks we should care such situations, and try to improve it > by adding hyperv-daemons package to stable (it means for production > system). Sure. The first step is to determine if we want to build this from the kernel source package (as a new binary package), or if w

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-10-16 Thread Joshua R. Poulson
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Hideki Yamane wrote: > If we can add it to stable, then I'll ask microsoft to update their > documents > https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn614985.aspx I will certainly update that page when the time comes. We're looking forward to it. Thanks, --j

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-10-16 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:58:24 +0200 Ben Hutchings wrote: > > I glad to hear hyperv-daemons package would be backported to Jessie :) > > And what is needed to do so? Of course, I would help if I can. > > I don't know that it will, but if it's critical enough for running > properly on Hyper-V

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-22 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 08/16/2015 01:22 PM, Michael Meskes wrote: >> Interesting, thanks. As for "The Microsoft Azure Linux Agent" [1], it is >> Apache-2.0 licensed and should be trivially package-able... >> >> [1]: https://github.com/Azure/WALinuxAgent > > It's been in Debian for years. Recently it was updated to

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 21:49 +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote: > On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:43:17 +0200 > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > They are now packaged in unstable (hyperv-daemons built from linux > > -tools source), and could possible be backported to jessie if they are > > that important. However, I thin

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-17 Thread Marcin Kulisz
On 2015-08-16 04:45:46, Joshua R. Poulson wrote: > Specifically, due to the efforts of Credativ, Debian will soon become an > "endorsed" distribution available from the image gallery on Azure. There will > be a DebConf 15 Q&A tomorrow on this topic. You can also chat us up at DebConf > this week.

RE: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-17 Thread Jose Miguel Parrella Romero
Hello, > Dmitry Smirnov dijo [Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:41:40PM +1000]: >> I found it very disappointing that I had to defend Debian against Ubuntu >> which is stealing our audience by somehow arranging more favourable hosting >> conditions on Azure. I'm not talking about availability of OS imag

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-17 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Dmitry Smirnov dijo [Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:41:40PM +1000]: > Hi everyone, > > I'm struggling to convince a client of mine to use Debian. They already had > enough troubles with RHEL/CentOS to they are open to the idea -- that's a > good thing. The bad thing is that they want to use Microsoft A

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:43:17 +0200 Ben Hutchings wrote: > They are now packaged in unstable (hyperv-daemons built from linux > -tools source), and could possible be backported to jessie if they are > that important. However, I think some more work is needed to integrate > them properly. I glad

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 11:18:55 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:35:37 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > > > Maybe someone could draft a press release to draw attention to the > > > problem, > > > if we should be concerned? > > > > Or maybe we should just

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, at 05:43, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 13:41 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > [...] > > I found it very disappointing that I had to defend Debian against Ubuntu > > which is stealing our audience by somehow arranging more favourable hosting > > conditions on A

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Sunday 16 August 2015 04:45:46 Joshua R. Poulson wrote: > Specifically, due to the efforts of Credativ, Debian will soon become an > "endorsed" distribution available from the image gallery on Azure. This will be a good news. I'm looking forward to see it happen. Thank you, Joshua. -- Regards

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Joshua R. Poulson
Specifically, due to the efforts of Credativ, Debian will soon become an "endorsed" distribution available from the image gallery on Azure. There will be a DebConf 15 Q&A tomorrow on this topic. You can also chat us up at DebConf this week. --jrp Linux Integration Services Program Manager, Open So

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Michael Meskes
> I hope Debian have some future on Azure however blog mention only native > Debian images (that shouldn't be too hard to prepare anyway) but not SLA... I'm pretty sure there'll be some SLA offering. Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org)

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Michael Meskes
> Interesting, thanks. As for "The Microsoft Azure Linux Agent" [1], it is > Apache-2.0 licensed and should be trivially package-able... > > [1]: https://github.com/Azure/WALinuxAgent It's been in Debian for years. Recently it was updated to the latest version. Please check https://packages.qa.d

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 16, Russ Allbery wrote: > This is sadly very typical of any sort of vendor support. I see this all > the time for complex software stacks with support contracts (you can only > ask them for support if you run it all on some OS that they "support") or > for anything that requires hardware

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Sunday 16 August 2015 09:35:37 Michael Meskes wrote: > Or maybe we should just wait a little bit longer until the problem is > fixed. As it happens work is already underway as you can see here: > http://www.credativ.de/blog/debian-images-f%C3%BCr-microsoft-azure I hope Debian have some future

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Sunday 16 August 2015 10:43:17 Ben Hutchings wrote: > No stable release of Debian includes the Hyper-V guest agents, which I > believe are strongly recommended. > > They are now packaged in unstable (hyperv-daemons built from linux > -tools source), and could possible be backported to jessie if

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Saturday 15 August 2015 21:52:19 Russ Allbery wrote: > It's possible, I suppose, that money has changed hands to get Microsoft to > endorse Ubuntu, but I think it's equally likely that they just looked at > the "enterprise" Linux space to see what the most popular distributions > commercial are,

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:35:37 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > > Maybe someone could draft a press release to draw attention to the problem, > > if we should be concerned? > > Or maybe we should just wait a little bit longer until the problem is > fixed. As it happens work is already underw

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 13:41 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: [...] > I found it very disappointing that I had to defend Debian against Ubuntu > which is stealing our audience by somehow arranging more favourable hosting > conditions on Azure. I'm not talking about availability of OS images. > Accor

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Michael Meskes
> Maybe someone could draft a press release to draw attention to the problem, > if we should be concerned? Or maybe we should just wait a little bit longer until the problem is fixed. As it happens work is already underway as you can see here: http://www.credativ.de/blog/debian-images-f%C3%BCr-mi

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Dmitry Smirnov writes: > I found it very disappointing that I had to defend Debian against Ubuntu > which is stealing our audience by somehow arranging more favourable hosting > conditions on Azure. I'm not talking about availability of OS images. > According to "Information for Non-Endorsed

Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-15 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Hi everyone, I'm struggling to convince a client of mine to use Debian. They already had enough troubles with RHEL/CentOS to they are open to the idea -- that's a good thing. The bad thing is that they want to use Microsoft Azure (please don't ask me why people in the right mind would ever cons