Re: [Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-22 Thread Roger Leigh
[please don't top-post] On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 02:31:16PM +0700, Muhammad H Hilman wrote: > Wow, it's work > > but, must I change the code on my application that needed filelock? > because, filelock code on that application stated as ubuntu command (just > filelock) > as far as I know debian com

Re: [Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-21 Thread Muhammad H Hilman
Wow, it's work but, must I change the code on my application that needed filelock? because, filelock code on that application stated as ubuntu command (just filelock) as far as I know debian command on filelock is (filelock-create) can you tel me what's the different between (filelock-create) com

Re: [Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:16:02PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > maybe > apt-get install liblockfile1 Possibly, but lockf() and fcntl() are usually better, and are present in libc. -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `'

Re: [Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, maybe apt-get install liblockfile1 Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Lin

Re: [Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-16 Thread Steve Langasek
[Please note that this question is more appropriate for debian-user, not debian-devel.] On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:51:39AM +0700, Muhammad H Hilman wrote: > Dear Debian developers > I run DOVIS 2.0 (docking application) in cluster server using Debian Sarge > Then I got *"Can not

[Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-16 Thread Muhammad H Hilman
Dear Debian developers I run DOVIS 2.0 (docking application) in cluster server using Debian Sarge Then I got *"Can not get init lock!"* notification here is the screenshoot [image: http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7643/35869453.png] I already asked the developers about this problem

Bug#273413: marked as done (Debian 'sarge' - apt-get destroyed hard disks)

2008-08-27 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:48:37 +0200 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line closing has caused the Debian Bug report #273413, regarding Debian 'sarge' - apt-get destroyed hard disks to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-28 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tuesday 26 July 2005 07:24 am, Frederico Rodrigues Abraham wrote: > Hi. I am trying to install the development files for motif but i get this: > > porter:~# apt-get install libmotif-dev What do you get if you chase dependencies by hand by running: apt-get install libmotif-dev xlibs-dev Da

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-27 Thread Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
endency Tree... Done > The following extra packages will be installed: > [] > > Works no problem. And for completeness my sources.list: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sarge main > deb-src h

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-27 Thread Alexander Wirt
Andrew Vaughan schrieb am Donnerstag, den 28. Juli 2005: [...] > libmotif-dev is in non-free. So what: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# apt-get install libmotif-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-27 Thread Andreas Metzler
ackage, installing lesstif instead] > Works no problem. And for completeness my sources.list: >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sarge main > deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sarge main >deb

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-27 Thread Andrew Vaughan
IL PROTECTED]:/# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sarge main > deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sarge main > deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main libmotif-dev is in non-free. > > So you should really check your sources list

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-27 Thread Alexander Wirt
ollowing extra packages will be installed: [] Works no problem. And for completeness my sources.list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sarge main deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sarge main

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-27 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
[fixed top-posting in quote] Frederico Rodrigues Abraham wrote: > On 7/27/05, Alexander Wirt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Frederico Rodrigues Abraham schrieb am Dienstag, den 26. Juli 2005: >> >> > Hi. I am trying to install the development files for motif but i get this: >> [..] >> >> Welcome

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-27 Thread Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
i am using debian stable... (sarge) i sent this mail to debiandevel ... should i have done it? is this the place for bug reports on debian stable? thanks -- Fred On 7/27/05, Alexander Wirt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frederico Rodrigues Abraham schrieb am Dienstag, den 26. Juli 2005: > > > Hi. I

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-27 Thread Alexander Wirt
Frederico Rodrigues Abraham schrieb am Dienstag, den 26. Juli 2005: > Hi. I am trying to install the development files for motif but i get this: [..] Welcome to unstable and the c++ and x.org transition. You have to wait until the transiton is finished or fix the correspondent packages on your ow

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-27 Thread Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
I had the same happen when trying to install the nvidia development packages: porter:~# apt-get install nvidia-glx-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are us

problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-26 Thread Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
Hi. I am trying to install the development files for motif but i get this: porter:~# apt-get install libmotif-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using t

Re: Compiling and using glibc-2.2 under Debian Sarge

2005-06-27 Thread Bob Proulx
Magik wrote: > > I think the typical answer will be to compile in a woody chroot. > > There are several different packages to help such as pbuilder and > > dchroot. This works quite well for C programs because gcc is very > > mature and the woody default gcc compiler is sufficient for most > > tas

RE: Compiling and using glibc-2.2 under Debian Sarge

2005-06-27 Thread Magik
> A side comment. Not having heard of omni-bot I went to that web site > and looked for something that would tell me about it. I may be blind > but after looking I still don't know what it is. It's an AI framework for variuos games/mods. Currently mainly supporting the Enemy Territory engine but

Re: Compiling and using glibc-2.2 under Debian Sarge

2005-06-26 Thread Bob Proulx
ted our stuff to Linux and everything works fine so > far. We're using Debian Sarge to compile our stuff. Sounds good. Except for your problem. > Here comes the problem: > It seems there are still a lot of users out there running glibc-2.2 based > systems. It is interesting t

Compiling and using glibc-2.2 under Debian Sarge

2005-06-26 Thread Magik
Hi. I'm one of the developers of Omni-bot (www.omni-bot.com). We recently ported our stuff to Linux and everything works fine so far. We're using Debian Sarge to compile our stuff. Here comes the problem: It seems there are still a lot of users out there running glibc-2.2 based systems

Re: Upgrading to Debian sarge

2005-06-15 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:59:16AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > Hello, > I am attempting to upgrade a powerpc based system to sarge. It was > previously on testing, but hasn't been updated for months. > Then again, maybe the entire archive *is* corrupt! > Failed to fetch > http://mirror.pacific.ne

Re: Upgrading to Debian sarge

2005-06-12 Thread Brian May
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache show libc6 | grep MD5sum MD5sum: Brian> ab0895ee6d8d2cf3b6906eb5228e5c25 Brian> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# md5sum Brian> /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.2.ds1-20_powerpc.deb Brian> 6930111

Upgrading to Debian sarge

2005-06-11 Thread Brian May
Hello, I am attempting to upgrade a powerpc based system to sarge. It was previously on testing, but hasn't been updated for months. I left the download going overnight (over 600Meg downloads according to aptitude), but it doesn't seem to like anything it downloads. No errors, no warnings, but no

Re: Debian Sarge

2005-06-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Eddy Veenstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >   Dear Debian team, ... > The installation asked for my video-card (Nvidia GeForce 5700LE)and > my monitor ( CTX S962 19'' LCD ). I selected the correct driver (NV) > and gave the horizontal and vertical frequencies ( 30-80 hor, 59-75 > vert ) for my m

Re: Debian Sarge

2005-05-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
e proper drivers > installed, except for my wireless network card (RT2500) which had to be done > manually. Even my TV-card was recognized and installed. > > What I don't like about Mandrake and Suze is that they decide which packages > are to be installed; they do a lot behind m

Debian Sarge

2005-05-22 Thread Eddy Veenstra
which had to be done manually. Even my TV-card was recognized and installed. What I don't like about Mandrake and Suze is that they decide which packages are to be installed; they do a lot behind my back and that's what I don't like. Now I've downloaded Debian Sarge DVD

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-13 Thread benjamin azan
We should pay attention. the sarge is very expected release and it's late has already generated enough noise about the debian release management. i think we should just release sarge and try to reduce the noise around sarge. 2005/5/13, Alien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > hello. > > Considering

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-13 Thread Alien
hello.   Considering the most important emprovements introduced in Sarge respect Woody, I suggest you to call the prox stable release Sarge 4.0. Best regards. Alien

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:02:32AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Kevin Mark] > > that would suggest that its the RM who has decided such issues in the > > past unilaterilly. > > Conventional wisdom is that release management involves so much > drudgery and so little recognition that the *lea

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:02:32AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [Kevin Mark] > > that would suggest that its the RM who has decided such issues in the > > past unilaterilly. > Conventional wisdom is that release management involves so much > drudgery and so little recognition that the *least*

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Kevin Mark] > that would suggest that its the RM who has decided such issues in the > past unilaterilly. Conventional wisdom is that release management involves so much drudgery and so little recognition that the *least* we can do is let the release manager decide on codenames and version number

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-08 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 01:10:41AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Andrea Mennucc] > > me, I do my part of the work in Debian > > > > and nobody ever contacted me regarding the choice of the number > > What that...? Why on earth would you think you should be contacted > before this sort of d

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-08 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > FWIW, I've noticed that "3.1" is already used in quite a lot of > documentation and on websites with articles relating to Debian. It > was announced quite some time ago, and so it would be rather > inconsiderate [gross understatement] to change it at this

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jaldhar H. Vyas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050506 20:00]: > On Fri, 6 May 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > > Their fault for releasing a book about unreleased software which is > > bound to be outdated the day that sarge will actually release. > Uh-uh and when will that day be? And don't give me any of t

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Andrea Mennucc] > me, I do my part of the work in Debian > > and nobody ever contacted me regarding the choice of the number What that...? Why on earth would you think you should be contacted before this sort of decision is made? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-07 Thread Joey Hess
Marc Haber wrote: > The actual decisions are made in the background without even trying to > talk to the body of developers. For example, the exim 4 maintainers > were not even contacted by whoever made the decision to move the > "default MTA" property from exim to exim4. We just found our package

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-07 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrea Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: >> On Fri, 6 May 2005, Marc Haber wrote: >> >> >>>Their fault for releasing a book about unreleased software which is >>>bound to be outdated the day that sarge will actually releas

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-07 Thread Andrea Mennucc
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > > >>Their fault for releasing a book about unreleased software which is >>bound to be outdated the day that sarge will actually release. > > > Uh-uh and when will that day be? And don't give me any of that "when it > is ready"

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-06 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 6 May 2005 13:54:29 -0400 (EDT), "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The problem isn't a concern for quality, it is people like you and Andrea >who don't follow process, who don't contribute when the actual decisions >are being made, but who come out of the woodwork at the last mi

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-06 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Fri, 6 May 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > Their fault for releasing a book about unreleased software which is > bound to be outdated the day that sarge will actually release. Uh-uh and when will that day be? And don't give me any of that "when it is ready" nonsense. The release version number was

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-06 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:15:13AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, 5 May 2005 10:30:36 -0400 (EDT), "Jaldhar H. Vyas" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Thu, 5 May 2005, Andrea Mennucc wrote: > >> I dont see it as a big stopper. You are saying that the number "3.1" > >> appears /etc/debian_versi

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 5 May 2005 10:30:36 -0400 (EDT), "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 5 May 2005, Andrea Mennucc wrote: >> I dont see it as a big stopper. You are saying that the number "3.1" >> appears /etc/debian_version (that lives in package "base-files") >> and in 3 documents (and tra

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Andrea Mennucc
hi I see that some people are opposing using "4.0", so I give up. I just write this e-mail to better understand why Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 01:17:45AM +0200, Andrea Mennucc wrote: > >>So I would much prefer if sarge would be called "Debian 4" >> >>Do you agree? >

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Joey Hess
Andrea Mennucc wrote: > > see shy jo, who argued for 4.0 at the appropriate time to discuss the > >version number to use > > That is puzzling me. In 2003, in the thread starting at > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/01/msg00337.html > most people were agreeing with calling sar

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > Now that sarge is frozen we have /etc/debian_version, the installation > manual, the release notes, and the website all containing the version > number 3.1. I've probably forgotten a few other things. Updating all > these things to change a version number kinda misses the point o

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thursday 05 May 2005 10:38 am, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Release numbers, like release code names, are up to the release managers > to decide. Since neither is particularly important, there's really not > much point in discussing them at length: if the release managers want > 3.1, then 3.1 is what

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2005-05-05 kello 15:52 +0200, Andrea Mennucc kirjoitti: > So why nobody did actually change the number then? Release numbers, like release code names, are up to the release managers to decide. Since neither is particularly important, there's really not much point in discussing them at length:

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Thu, 5 May 2005, Andrea Mennucc wrote: > I dont see it as a big stopper. You are saying that the number "3.1" > appears /etc/debian_version (that lives in package "base-files") > and in 3 documents (and translations). ...and Debian 3.1 Bible whose publisher will be highly annoyed if they are f

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 03:52:55PM +0200, Andrea Mennucc wrote: > I would bet 10$ that during the freeze more than 300 packages will be > admitted into Sarge. > And I would bet another 5$ that "base-files" will be one of them. even considering that base-files has been frozen for, what, half a yea

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Andrea Mennucc
Joey Hess wrote: > Andrea Mennucc wrote: > >>now that sarge is frozen, I would like to start a discussion >>on the number to associate to Sarge release. > > Now that sarge is frozen we have /etc/debian_version, the installation > manual, the release notes, and the website all containing the versi

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Thu, 5 May 2005, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > * Several new architectures > > Such as? > negative sparc negative alpha negative mips negative mipsel ... in fact we addded -8 architectures altogether. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
> "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> * Several new architectures > Such as? Sorry, my mistake. I forgot that woody was released on 11 architectures. Ganesan -- Ganesan Rajagopal (rganesan at debian.org) | GPG Key: 1024D/5D8C12EA Web: http://employees.org/~rganesan

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 03:12:12PM +0530, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote: > > "Bartosz" == Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I would prefer to be maintainer of the well known distribution which > > *doesn't* bump versions only for the fun of it. > > Exactly. This time I thin

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 11:53:45AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > I would prefer to be maintainer of the well known distribution which > > *doesn't* bump versions only for the fun of it. > > > > I know that for most people numbers have some magic meaning, but please can > > we try to provide stable

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
> "Bartosz" == Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would prefer to be maintainer of the well known distribution which > *doesn't* bump versions only for the fun of it. Exactly. This time I think it would have been justified. Consider * A new installer * Linux Kernel 2.6

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Bartosz, * Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-05 11:40]: > On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 01:17:45AM +0200, Andrea Mennucc wrote: > > Considering that woody was released 19 Jul 2002, it took us > > ~3 years to release; in the meantime, all most important > > components changed co

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 01:17:45AM +0200, Andrea Mennucc wrote: > Considering that woody was released 19 Jul 2002, it took us > ~3 years to release; in the meantime, all most important > components changed completely; and we did a lot of work > in Sarge, that I do not want to see numerically > repr

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-05 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 08:38:17PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > see shy jo, who argued for 4.0 at the appropriate time to discuss the > version number to use :-) right -- Francesco P. Lovergine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-04 Thread Joey Hess
Andrea Mennucc wrote: > now that sarge is frozen, I would like to start a discussion > on the number to associate to Sarge release. Now that sarge is frozen we have /etc/debian_version, the installation manual, the release notes, and the website all containing the version number 3.1. I've probably

Re: debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-04 Thread Frederik Dannemare
On Thursday 05 May 2005 01:17, Andrea Mennucc wrote: [ ... ] > Considering that woody was released 19 Jul 2002, it took us > ~3 years to release; in the meantime, all most important > components changed completely; and we did a lot of work > in Sarge, that I do not want to see numerically > represe

debian sarge is 3.2 or 4 ?

2005-05-04 Thread Andrea Mennucc
hi everybody now that sarge is frozen, I would like to start a discussion on the number to associate to Sarge release. According to http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/sarge/index.en.html Sarge may be released as "Debian 3.1" In 2003, Scott James Remnant proposed in http://lists.debian.org/debian

Re: free accounts on a Debian "sarge" server

2005-04-26 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
>>>>> "Sam" == Sam Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We are offering free accounts on a Debian "sarge" server, including > ssh, vnc/X11, web, email, rsync, svn, darcs, ultra-fast internet access > and many more services to come - basically w

free accounts on a Debian "sarge" server

2005-04-26 Thread Sam Watkins
Hi, Debian people, We are offering free accounts on a Debian "sarge" server, including ssh, vnc/X11, web, email, rsync, svn, darcs, ultra-fast internet access and many more services to come - basically we're happy to set up whatever services you might want. We also offer s

Problem mod aix7xxx Debian Sarge!!!

2005-03-16 Thread Daniel O. Silva
Hello,       Please verify mod aic7xxx SCSI Host Adapter, i find problem install Debian Sarge...   Debian sarge ---> Failed Debian Woody ---> Sucess ( Drivers Red Hat this OK )   I sorry my english   Daniel - Brasil

Re: Debian "Sarge" Support

2005-02-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:47:18PM -0800, Hans Reiser wrote: > Can you folks at Debian tell me whether we are supported in Sarge? The stock kernels support Reiser3, but not Reiser4. Reiser4 support packages are available, however. -- EARTH smog | bricks AIR -- mud -- FIRE so

Re: Debian "Sarge" Support

2005-02-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
As far as I can see - Debian "Sarge" / Debian "testing" / Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 - now has support both for Reiserfs [?? 3.6.19??] and Reiser4 [?? 1.0.3 ??]. There is a kernel patch against version 2.6.8 for Reiser4. Hope this helps - everyone feel free to correct me if I'

Re: Debian "Sarge" Support

2005-02-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 28 fÃvrier 2005 Ã 13:47 -0800, Hans Reiser a Ãcrit : > Can you folks at Debian tell me whether we are supported in Sarge? As far as I know, there is no reiser4 support in the Debian stock kernel. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' : [EMAIL PROTECTED] `. `'

Re: Debian "Sarge" Support

2005-02-28 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
6 not 4. Things could have changed of course, but I don't really expect so. Hope this helps Floris > Ben Pont wrote: > > >I am preparing to install Debian "Sarge" on my > >computer and am debating whether to partition > >Reiser4 or Ext3. > > > >I

Re: Debian "Sarge" Support

2005-02-28 Thread Hans Reiser
Can you folks at Debian tell me whether we are supported in Sarge? Thanks, Hans Ben Pont wrote: I am preparing to install Debian "Sarge" on my computer and am debating whether to partition Reiser4 or Ext3. I know Lindows supports Reiser4, Lindows being Debian based, but do you kno

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-08-07 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Joey Hess] > Probably making the print server task install it instead of lpr, which > would have a side effect of making sure it's on CD#1 if it's not > already. Probably also demoting the lpr package to optional and moving > cups from there to standard. Possibly making lsb depend on part of cups

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-08-03 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 01:44, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 02:51:53AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > For the vast majority of situations, it's incredibly easier to configure, > > and usually more reliable about output, than lprng. > > Implying that there are circumstances where CUP

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-08-03 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 02:51:53AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > For the vast majority of situations, it's incredibly easier to configure, > and usually more reliable about output, than lprng. Implying that there are circumstances where CUPS will produce valid output, and lprng will not? I'm inte

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-08-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Joe Wreschnig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030802 10:05]: > CUPS is configurable via ordinary text configuration files like most > Unix programs, a web interface (which is what I use), GNOME or KDE > frontends, probably a number of miscelleaneous toolkit frontends, too... > > Personally, I'm surprised t

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-08-02 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 23:31, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:52:04PM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: > > However, I am biased, as I package the GNOME CUPS packages... :) > > And as a random comment, it's really sad that a printing system would have > any sort of dependency whatsoever on

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-08-01 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:52:04PM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: > As a random reply... > However, I am biased, as I package the GNOME CUPS packages... :) And as a random comment, it's really sad that a printing system would have any sort of dependency whatsoever on Gnome (or KDE, for that matter).

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-08-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 09:44:17AM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > The last time I tried to use CUPS, I found it to be so user friendly > that I couldn't get it to do anything useful. Very pretty, less > functional; and the documentation was entirely inadequate. > > On the other hand, whi

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-08-01 Thread Joey Hess
Keegan Quinn wrote: > FWIW, I've had very good experiences with the CUPS in unstable, so > I'd not object to this. OTOH, installing it without it being 'default' > is already quite trivial. What would this change entail, exactly? Probably making the print server task install it instead of lpr, w

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-08-01 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:49:59PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Do we actually need a default print service at all? Mail is much more > fundamental, for example, but lots of computers these days don't have a > printer attached at all. We needn't install a print service by default but if someone

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-08-01 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On pe, 2003-08-01 at 12:32, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: > It is a good solution for any user level with most common printers/needs, > thus it > should be the default (IMHO). Do we actually need a default print service at all? Mail is much more fundamental, for example, but lots of compu

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-08-01 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:35:13AM -0700, Keegan Quinn wrote: > FWIW, I've had very good experiences with the CUPS in unstable, so > I'd not object to this. OTOH, installing it without it being 'default' > is already quite trivial. What would this change entail, exactly? So i had/have either in

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Alan Shutko
Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So am I. To bad it isn't lpr compatible at all (at least not > lprng-lpr). Well, lprng isn't lpr... but if there are clienty things you want, you could probably use lprng's clients with CUPS's lpr server. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Cyrille! You wrote: > I'm mostly using its lpr-compatible command-line interface. So am I. To bad it isn't lpr compatible at all (at least not lprng-lpr). -- Kind regards, ++ | Bas Zoetekouw | GPG key: 0644fab

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 03:38:55PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I believe it would be a good idea if the default print system in the > next release of Debian (Sarge) is changed to CUPS. CUPS is a more > complete, more userfriendly and RFC complient printing system. FWIW, I&#x

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Cyrille Chepelov
Le Thu, Jul 31, 2003, à 03:09:15PM +0100, Ross Burton a écrit: > On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 15:00, Cyrille Chepelov wrote: > > if only gnome-cups-manager wasn't leaking memory like a CPU leaks > > heat...) > > Terribly sorry about this. It's only gnome-cups-icon which leaks like > mad, so you can kill

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 15:00, Cyrille Chepelov wrote: > if only gnome-cups-manager wasn't leaking memory like a CPU leaks > heat...) Terribly sorry about this. It's only gnome-cups-icon which leaks like mad, so you can kill that and use eggcups instead (looks almost identical). I'll be removing e

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:52:04PM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: > On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 14:44, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > The last time I tried to use CUPS, I found it to be so user friendly > > that I couldn't get it to do anything useful. Very pretty, less > > functional; and the documentation wa

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Antony Gelberg
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 03:38:55PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > > > I believe it would be a good idea if the default print system in the > > next release of Debian (Sarge) is changed to CUPS. CUPS is a more > > complete, more userfriendly and RF

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Cyrille Chepelov
Le Thu, Jul 31, 2003, à 09:44:17AM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz a écrit: > The last time I tried to use CUPS, I found it to be so user friendly > that I couldn't get it to do anything useful. Very pretty, less > functional; and the documentation was entirely inadequate. Well, while what you describe

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 14:44, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > The last time I tried to use CUPS, I found it to be so user friendly > that I couldn't get it to do anything useful. Very pretty, less > functional; and the documentation was entirely inadequate. > > On the other hand, while lprng was anythi

Re: CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 03:38:55PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > I believe it would be a good idea if the default print system in the > next release of Debian (Sarge) is changed to CUPS. CUPS is a more > complete, more userfriendly and RFC complient printing system.

CUPS should be the default print service in Debian/Sarge

2003-07-31 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
I believe it would be a good idea if the default print system in the next release of Debian (Sarge) is changed to CUPS. CUPS is a more complete, more userfriendly and RFC complient printing system. http://www.cups.org> Any reason not to change the default?