Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-07-03 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 05:17:18PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 à 18:41 -0500, Adam Heath a écrit : > > > > I agree. A java policy should talk about how java packages should > > > > interact > > > > once installed.

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-11 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:35:41 -0500 (CDT), Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > >> Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:38:13 -0500 (CDT), >> Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-06 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:38:13 -0500 (CDT), > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > >> > > >> > 3 Future > >> > > >> > * fix the

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-06 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:38:13 -0500 (CDT), Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: >> > >> > 3 Future >> > >> > * fix the Debian Java Policy; >> > * update the Debian Java FAQ; >

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 01:06:44PM -0400, sean finney wrote: > instead of trying to force people to do things "your way", i would suggest > that you come up with an infrastructure for making these packages that > really is easier and consistant, and then say something like "packages > built with ja

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 23:49:17 +0200, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 à 18:41 -0500, Adam Heath a écrit : >> > I agree. A java policy should talk about how java packages >> > should interact once installed. But stay the hell away from how >> > they are built.

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-04 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 à 18:41 -0500, Adam Heath a écrit : > > > I agree. A java policy should talk about how java packages should > > > interact > > > once installed. But stay the hell away from how they are built. > > > > As an example, debhelpe

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 à 18:41 -0500, Adam Heath a écrit : > > I agree. A java policy should talk about how java packages should interact > > once installed. But stay the hell away from how they are built. > > As an example, debhelper, while being very useful for maintainers, is not > mandated

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-04 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 07:13:57PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Hard to tell, I haven't spend time looking. But I can give an example > of a person unable to discover that I didn't suggest forcing anyone to > do anything. I formulated a 'recommend and not require' suggestion in > my mail.

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Sean Finney] > can you give an example of anywhere else in debian where developers > are forced to use a specific build tool/system for their packages? Hard to tell, I haven't spend time looking. But I can give an example of a person unable to discover that I didn't suggest forcing anyone to do

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-04 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 08:59:30AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I disagree. It should give recommodations on how they should be > built, to make it easier for the java developers to maintain the java > packages. Consistency reduce the work maintaining packages, and using > a common system

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-04 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 08:59:30AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Adam Heath] > > I agree. A java policy should talk about how java packages should > > interact once installed. But stay the hell away from how they are > > built. > > I disagree. It should give recommodations on how they sh

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Adam Heath] > I agree. A java policy should talk about how java packages should > interact once installed. But stay the hell away from how they are > built. I disagree. It should give recommodations on how they should be built, to make it easier for the java developers to maintain the java pac

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-03 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Adam Heath wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > > > > > 3 Future > > > > > > * fix the Debian Java Policy; > > > * update the Debian Java FAQ; > > > * more packages to pkg-ja

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-03 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > > > 3 Future > > > > * fix the Debian Java Policy; > > * update the Debian Java FAQ; > > * more packages to pkg-java; > > * every packages to cdbs; > > > Why cdbs?

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-03 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:16:47 -0400, "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: >> >> 3 Future >> >> * fix the Debian Java Policy; >> * update the Debian Java FAQ; >> * more packages to pkg-java; >> * every packa

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-03 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:47:42 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Javier, > On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > (..) >> 3 Future >> > (..) >> * update the Debian Java FAQ; > > Can you pl

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-03 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > 3 Future > > * fix the Debian Java Policy; > * update the Debian Java FAQ; > * more packages to pkg-java; > * every packages to cdbs; Why cdbs? I was under the impression that many people disliked/wer uncomfort

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-03 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:39:33PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: (..) > 3 Future > (..) > * update the Debian Java FAQ; Can you please provide the information in this mail as a patch to the Debian Java FAQ? I would like to see that updated and have offered the document to the debian-java tea