Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-07 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 7 May 2014 01:19, Charles Plessy wrote: > Hi Matthias, > > your answer exemplifies very well what I mean with “pressed by the machine”… > > I will reply on one point only. > > Le Wed, May 07, 2014 at 01:46:32AM +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : >> Am 06.05.2014 03:05, schrieb Charles Plessy: >> >

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi Matthias, your answer exemplifies very well what I mean with “pressed by the machine”… I will reply on one point only. Le Wed, May 07, 2014 at 01:46:32AM +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : > Am 06.05.2014 03:05, schrieb Charles Plessy: > > > > When the first mass rebuilds with GCC and porting i

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-06 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 06.05.2014 03:05, schrieb Charles Plessy: > Le Mon, May 05, 2014 at 08:56:48PM +0200, Bas Wijnen a écrit : >> >> I'm happy to see that there is consensus anyway that forwarding bugs upstream >> is the task of the maintainer. > > Hi all, > > being a package maintainer, I am always uncomfortable

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-05 Thread Cameron Norman
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Mon, May 05, 2014 at 08:56:48PM +0200, Bas Wijnen a écrit : >> >> I'm happy to see that there is consensus anyway that forwarding bugs upstream >> is the task of the maintainer. > > Hi all, > > being a package maintainer, I am always uncom

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-05 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, May 05, 2014 at 08:56:48PM +0200, Bas Wijnen a écrit : > > I'm happy to see that there is consensus anyway that forwarding bugs upstream > is the task of the maintainer. Hi all, being a package maintainer, I am always uncomfortable when I have the impression that I am considered like a h

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-05 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Bas Wijnen contributed: > Which means that if the maintainer is unable to do that, the response "please > forward this upstream" should be interpreted (and perhaps more clearly > written) > as "sorry I don't have time, this is how you can try to make things happen > yourse

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-05 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 05:36:53PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > I cannot imagine *any* example of a bug reported reported according to > guidelines being a waste of time. > > Can you provide examples of that kind of response? I remember it happening only once, and it was quite a while ago.

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 4 May 2014 16:33:08 +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: >On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 09:14:50AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> >I don't think this is very clear from the guidelines, and I have had mixed >> >responses from maintainers when reporting upstream bugs, varying from >> >"thanks, >> >I'll report i

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Bas Wijnen (2014-05-04 16:33:08) > On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 09:14:50AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >>>I don't think this is very clear from the guidelines, and I have had >>>mixed responses from maintainers when reporting upstream bugs, >>>varying from "thanks, I'll report it upstream for you

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/03/2014 03:21 AM, Svante Signell wrote: > Hi, > > Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to > report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package > maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the > packages)? The first one

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 09:14:50AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > >I don't think this is very clear from the guidelines, and I have had mixed > >responses from maintainers when reporting upstream bugs, varying from > >"thanks, > >I'll report it upstream for you" to "stop wasting my time, report it ups

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Matthias Urlichs dixit: >Thorsten Glaser: >> Did you *read* how upstream answered the one thing I *did* forward >> myself? >> >For the benefit of the other readers here, would you please supply a >reference URL? Sure: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=728053 >> exceptions: a tru

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Thorsten Glaser: > Did you *read* how upstream answered the one thing I *did* forward > myself? > For the benefit of the other readers here, would you please supply a reference URL? > exceptions: a truly awful implementation of quite a nice idea. > just about the worst way you could do som

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 11:48 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:21 AM, Svante Signell wrote: > > > Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to > > report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package > > maintainers responsibility (in additi

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 2 May 2014 21:29:34 +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: >On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 09:21:15PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: >> Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to >> report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package >> maintainers responsibility (in a

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Sune Vuorela dixit: >On 2014-05-03, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> This does not, of course, prevent people like the Mesa maintainers >> from refusing to do it. I’ve got no idea how to enforce DevRef on >Thank you for volunteering to help forwarding bug reports for the mesa Did you *read* how upstre

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-03 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-05-03, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > This does not, of course, prevent people like the Mesa maintainers > from refusing to do it. I’ve got no idea how to enforce DevRef on > them, though. Thank you for volunteering to help forwarding bug reports for the mesa package. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 12:02 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Russ Allbery dixit: > > >Svante Signell writes: > > > >> Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to > >> report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package > >> maintainers responsibility (in

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Russ Allbery dixit: >Svante Signell writes: > >> Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to >> report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package >> maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the >> packages)? > >I don't think

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org): > That said, the process of forwarding bugs along is sort of annoying in > many cases and may not be a very appealing place for volunteers to spend > their time, so I think it tends to be one of the first things that stops > happening when maintainer teams a

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:21 AM, Svante Signell wrote: > Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to > report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package > maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the > packages)? Is this in re

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 02.05.2014 21:21, schrieb Svante Signell: > Hi, > > Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to > report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package > maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the > packages)? For any essent

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Svante Signell writes: > Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to > report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package > maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the > packages)? I don't think we have a clear guideline on

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 09:21:15PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to > report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package > maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the > packages)? I do

A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Svante Signell
Hi, Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the packages)? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debi