Re: Troubleshooting experimental build - how to replicate the sbuild?

2025-04-21 Thread Santiago Vila
dpkg-buildpackage -B Note: I tried that (once) and unfortunately it built ok for me, so maybe it's a makefile bug. You might want to try GNUMAKEFLAGS=--shuffle, which sometimes amplifies the probability that an existing makefile bug manifests itself. If it's a makefile bug, dh --no-parallel mig

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-21 Thread Santiago Vila
El 21/4/25 a las 15:39, G. Branden Robinson escribió: original-awk's man page admits to one area of POSIX-nonconformance: BUGS ... POSIX‐standard interval expressions in regular expressions are not supported. ...which I think weakens the case for your proposal helping us to have AWK

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-21 Thread Santiago Vila
El 21/4/25 a las 14:02, Chris Hofstaedtler escribió: I would suggest you hit up some of the current maintainers of Essential: yes packages, and leave the naysayers on d-devel to themselves. Note that there might be some overlap in those two sets of people. The set of currently essential packa

Re: Troubleshooting experimental build - how to replicate the sbuild?

2025-04-21 Thread Santiago Vila
Hi. Given that the buildds are able to build the Arch:all packages but not the arch:amd64 packages, the way to reproduce this would be to do this in a regular directory chroot: dpkg-buildpackage -B In particular, I see that debian/rules does different things depending on the type of build: ove

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-20 Thread Santiago Vila
El 20/4/25 a las 13:56, Adrian Bunk escribió: The former without the latter is just a lot of wasted work without any benefits. I also agree that removing awk in the normal Debian distribution is a waste of time. If somebody wants to create a minimal container based on Debian, static in nature,

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-18 Thread Santiago Vila
El 17/4/25 a las 21:03, Colin Watson escribió: On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 08:40:42PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: Installed size of mawk is 263 MB which is really small for today's standards. KB rather than MB, thankfully! Big oops! I wonder how small they want images to be to consider 2

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-17 Thread Santiago Vila
El 17/4/25 a las 20:27, Russ Allbery escribió: Simon Josefsson writes: I noticed that Fedora 42 was released and their docker images lack a 'awk' tool. Debian trixie images ship with 'mawk' pre-installed right now. While I'm not convinced the removal game is necessarily a good one, I can see

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-17 Thread Santiago Vila
El 17/4/25 a las 9:21, Paul Gevers escribió: Hi, On 16-04-2025 19:59, Santiago Vila wrote: I wish reproducible-builds people would activate DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck for the second build, I think it would help. I don't think anybody will use that as an excuse to file more RC bugs.

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-16 Thread Santiago Vila
Simon wrote: it would be better if future bug reporting for this scenario didn't encourage maintainers to implement nocheck incorrectly. You are absolutely right and I apologize for my mistake. Not just future but also *present*, so I've now added a clarification note to all the bugs I reported

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-16 Thread Santiago Vila
El 16/4/25 a las 18:52, Simon McVittie escribió: the bug template should be more like     The contents of the resulting package are meant to be identical to     the package produced by a normal build, but this was not checked     during this particular mass-rebuild or something along those l

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-16 Thread Santiago Vila
El 13/4/25 a las 15:22, Simon McVittie escribió: I think there are two subtly different things that you could mean by "with nocheck": 1. DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck, but no special build profiles     - therefore build-dependencies are still installed 2. DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck DEB_BUILD_PROFI

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-13 Thread Santiago Vila
El 13/4/25 a las 15:22, Simon McVittie escribió: On a personal note, I consider those bugs interesting to fix because I think there should be a safe procedure to build all packages in the archive in a way which minimizes build failures as much as possible. If that's what you want, I think sce

MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-13 Thread Santiago Vila
Hello. After building all the archive (trixie/sid) with nocheck, I only found 33 new packages which fail to build with nocheck that were not reported before. Admittedly a little bit more than I expected, but certainly not "hundreds" as some people feared. (The main reason there are not so many

Re: Proposal: drop libcrypt-dev dependency from libc6-dev

2025-04-10 Thread Santiago Vila
[ Thanks for this. Awesome work! ] El 10/4/25 a las 11:43, Helmut Grohne escribió: My thinking here was to reduce the annoyance for users by degrading the dependency softly. I was told that some users expect to be able to build perl extensions without installing libperl-dev (which is why libperl

Re: key packages RC bugs of the month April

2025-04-05 Thread Santiago Vila
El 5/4/25 a las 8:44, Paul Gevers escribió: Remember, if you really think a bug shouldn't be RC (particularly if you are the maintainer), downgrade it with an explanation. Does this include the case where a Release Manager previously raised the severity from important to serious? Thanks.

Bug#1101365: RFH: ifupdown -- high level tools to configure network interfaces

2025-03-26 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
it would be great to solve in the meantime. Please, don't hesiteate to jump in to help maintaining it! Cheers, -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-03-20 Thread Santiago Vila
El 20/3/25 a las 15:29, Jeremy Bícha escribió: Thank you for this wonderful project and for raising the severity to serious since it's clearly easier to fix the bugs in Unstable now rather than as Stable Updates later. Thanks go to the Release Managers, more specifically Paul Gevers, who allowe

Bug#1098424: ITP: python-packageurl -- Package URL (purl) spec Python implementation

2025-02-20 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Santiago Ruano Rincón X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 1089...@bugs.debian.org * Package name: python-packageurl Version : 0.16.0 Upstream Contact: https://gitter.im/package-url/Lobby * URL : https://github.com

Re: GCC-15 mass bug filing.

2025-02-19 Thread Santiago Vila
El 19/2/25 a las 12:42, Holger Levsen escribió: On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 06:19:45PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: that looks useful: $ curl http://qa-logs.debian.net/2025/02/16/00res.amd64exp | grep "multiple definition of \`QtPrivate::IsFloatType_v<_Float16>'" qa-logs.debian.net! never heard

Re: Packages with a history of security issues and whose packaged version is not up to date

2025-02-17 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 16/02/25 a las 21:15, Marco d'Itri escribió: > On Feb 14, Colin Watson wrote: > > > But it doesn't. Santiago's using the data from the security tracker to > > determine whether CVEs are open. > And in the case of one of my own packages these CVEs have not yet been > fixed upstream, not even

Re: Packages with a history of security issues and whose packaged version is not up to date

2025-02-17 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
ts who just compare version numbers and > > > flag our stable versions as vulnerable regardless whether we have > > > patched vulnerabilities or not. > > > > But it doesn't. Santiago's using the data from the security tracker to > > determine whether CVEs

Re: Packages with a history of security issues and whose packaged version is not up to date

2025-02-17 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 13/02/25 a las 21:57, Paul Gevers escribió: > Hi, > > On 13-02-2025 20:21, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote: > > Any thoughts? > > > You might also want to somehow take activity on the package into account. > E.g. cacti (that I am nearly the only uploader for) has seen

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-02-15 Thread Santiago Vila
El 15/2/25 a las 10:44, Paul Gevers escribió: Can the Release Managers suggest a calendar for raising those bugs, first to important, then to serious? What I had in mind was that you'd file the bugs and after some time (say, one or two months) raised them, giving maintainers a bit more time th

Packages with a history of security issues and whose packaged version is not up to date

2025-02-13 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
now there could be "false positives", such as nginx or openjdk*, but please take this as a draft list (and a draft script). Attached you can find the script that produces this list. Any thoughts? Cheers, -- Santiago 975 newer packages available num of open CVEs in sid, num of historic

Re: Canonical way for a package to set an environment variable

2025-01-16 Thread Santiago Vila
El 16/1/25 a las 21:01, Soren Stoutner escribió: Is there a canonical way for a package to set an environment variable? You should try to find another way, because Debian Policy 9.9 says this: Programs installed on the system PATH (/bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, or similar directories) must

Re: gettext 0.23.x

2025-01-06 Thread Santiago Vila
Hi. Since this is standard procedure, I've just filed the bugs: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=debian...@lists.debian.org;tag=gettext-0.23 but with the caveat that I don't know when I will able to do the upload for unstable. At this moment I don't want to think about NMUs ye

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
[ moving technical discussion to -devel, as -release was just to ask RM for a calendar to raise severities ] [ Bcc to Holger on this one ] El 5/1/25 a las 23:59, Holger Levsen escribió: so what did you use? I still change the system clock. So, the same you did.

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
El 5/1/25 a las 21:07, Otto Kekäläinen escribió: This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/05/msg00414.html I did another test rebuild and found 11 new packages failing in the not-so-distant future. I also found another package for which

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Em 5 de janeiro de 2025 15:28:24 GMT-05:00, Santiago Vila escreveu: >El 5/1/25 a las 21:07, Otto Kekäläinen escribió: >>> This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: >>> >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/05/msg00414.html >>> &

Re: gettext 0.23.x

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
El 5/1/25 a las 19:15, Guillem Jover escribió: I think this indicates a problem in the upstream autotools support, and it might be better to try to fix that instead of adding what seems like a workaround that might end up causing problems too due to the (silenced) version mismatch. I already di

Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
Hello. This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/05/msg00414.html I did another test rebuild and found 11 new packages failing in the not-so-distant future. I also found another package for which the fix was lost and the bug had to reope

gettext 0.23.x

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
Greetings. I've just uploaded gettext 0.23.1-0.1 for experimental. [ This is preliminary, don't worry for the changelog, there will be a proper one in unstable. Also please don't close any bugs yet, I want to close them in unstable ]. There is a list of upstream changes here: https://savannah.

Re: Barriers between packages and other people

2024-12-21 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Em 20 de dezembro de 2024 23:11:55 GMT-03:00, Sean Whitton escreveu: >Hello, > >On Thu 12 Dec 2024 at 10:43am +01, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > >> an alternative that I was thinking of, is making this "everybody is onboard" >> policy more explicit by having a special email to use for the Maintain

Re: Fixing src:ucf environmnent variable insecurity in [old]stable

2024-12-19 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
all > uses of eval have been removed. > > Thanks > > Mark > > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/1086847 > > [2] https://bugs.debian.org/1089015 > There are not point releases for the LTS release, so if this warrants an fix, it should be done via a DLA. Emilio, since

Bug#1089918: ITP: py-serializable -- Python library for {de,}serializing classes to and from JSON and XML.

2024-12-14 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Santiago Ruano Rincón X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: py-serializable Version : 1.1.2 Upstream Contact: https://github.com/madpah/serializable/issues * URL : https://py-serializable.readthedocs.io

Bug#1089871: ITP: cyclonedx-python-lib -- Python library for CycloneDX

2024-12-14 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Santiago Ruano Rincón X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: cyclonedx-python-lib Version : 8.5.0 Upstream Contact: https://github.com/CycloneDX/cyclonedx-python-lib/issues * URL : https://github.com

Bug#1088705: ITP: python-spdx-tools -- Python library to parse, validate and create SPDX documents

2024-11-29 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Santiago Ruano Rincón X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, team+freex...@tracker.debian.org, team+pyt...@tracker.debian.org * Package name: python-spdx-tools Version : 0.8.3 Upstream Contact: https://github.com/spdx/tools-python

Re: [MBF]: Proposing `Rules-Requires-Root: no` being the new default

2024-11-29 Thread Santiago Vila
This is awesome work! I hope you can start the MBF soon. One minor comment: * 862 failures - Of these 217 failed with an error related to this change - The remaining failed for other reasons (including running out of memory on the host, etc.) I'd like to look at those "remaini

Potential MBF: Migration from twitter-bootstrap{3,4} to bootstrap-html (v5)

2024-11-20 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
p 5 is not just a drop-in replacement, and some work on the upstream side may be needed. https://getbootstrap.com/docs/5.3/migration/ https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.6/migration/ Please, consider migrating to bootstrap 5. --- Cheers, -- Santiago fonts-glyphicons-halflings Reverse Depends: knot-resolve

Bug#1083198: ITP: opentelemetry-proto -- OpenTelemetry protocol specification and proto files

2024-10-02 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Santiago Ruano Rincón X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, team+freex...@tracker.debian.org * Package name: opentelemetry-proto Version : 1.3.2 Upstream Contact: https://github.com/open-telemetry/opentelemetry-proto/issues * URL

Re: ifupdown maintenance

2024-09-13 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Adding team+network...@tracker.debian.org to the loop. El 13/09/24 a las 12:31, Martin-Éric Racine escribió: > pe 13. syysk. 2024 klo 12.16 Sean Whitton (spwhit...@spwhitton.name) > kirjoitti: > > Hello Santiago, > > > > What are your current intentions in this area?

Re: Network stack for Trixie

2024-09-08 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
tion. > > --- 8< --- > > On 20.08.24 12:58, Lukas Märdian wrote: > > Hi network maintainers! > > > > After our [Networking BoF] at DebConf24 in Busan I had the impression that > > Santiago is primarily interested in sunsetting classic ifupdown while > &g

Re: DEP18 follow-up: What would be the best path to have all top-150 packages use Salsa CI?

2024-08-23 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
x27;t appear there is because of my preferred way to configure the pipeline in a package is adding the debian/salsa-ci.yml file. The Gitlab setting makes customisations more difficult, and more difficult for others that don't have read access to those settings. (Yes, this is not wh

Re: default network management tools (was: ifupdown maintenance)

2024-07-11 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
ebian bubble, sharing the responsibility for their continued existence > among *considerably* more people. ACK. This is a sound argument. Thanks. -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: ifupdown maintenance

2024-07-11 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 09/07/24 a las 11:25, Daniel Gröber escribió: > Hi Santiago, > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 12:23:16PM -0300, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote: > > > > Santiago, how do you feel about ifupdown's future maintainability and > > > > feature development? I honestl

Re: ifupdown maintenance

2024-07-08 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 07/07/24 a las 18:02, Martin-Éric Racine escribió: > su 7. heinäk. 2024 klo 16.56 Daniel Gröber (d...@darkboxed.org) kirjoitti: > > On Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 12:38:34PM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > > > While discussing pending issues with Santiago (ifupdown's de-fact

Bug#1074242: ITP: opentelemetry -- C++ OpenTelemetry client

2024-06-24 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Santiago Ruano Rincón X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, team+freex...@tracker.debian.org * Package name: opentelemetry Version : 1.16.0 Upstream Contact: https://github.com/open-telemetry/opentelemetry-cpp/issues * URL

MBF: Building packages in the (not so distant) future

2024-05-26 Thread Santiago Vila
Greetings. After we make a stable release, there is usually a constant flow of packages which start to FTBFS due to "time bombs", i.e. expired SSL certificates used in tests and other similar reasons. This is not fun for anybody trying to keep stable free of FTBFS bugs, but fortunately we can do

Bug#1070494: ITP: linux-livepatching -- linux livepatching module for Debian

2024-05-06 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emmanuel Arias , Santiago Ruano Rincón X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, t...@security.debian.org, debian-ker...@lists.debian.org, debian-...@lists.debian.org, eam...@debian.org * Package name: linux-livepatching Version

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-30 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 31/03/24 a las 00:53, Christian Kastner escribió: > On 2024-03-30 22:59, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote: > > The backdoor was discovered by someone using the compromised xz-utils *in > > their own machines*. So we are lucky we have people eating our own sid > > stuff before

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-30 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Em 30 de março de 2024 13:00:26 GMT-03:00, Marco d'Itri escreveu: >On Mar 30, Jonathan Carter wrote: > >> Another big question for me is whether I should really still >> package/upload/etc from an unstable machine. It seems that it may be prudent >If we do not use unstable for development the

Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2024-03-10 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
; On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 12:55 PM Martin-Éric Racine > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 3:06 AM Santiago Ruano Rincón > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > El 22/06/23 a las 09:57, Santiago Ruano Rincón e

Re: Limited security support for Go/Rust? Re ssh3

2024-01-16 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 16/01/24 a las 17:43, Simon Josefsson escribió: > Bastian Blank writes: > > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 10:59:30AM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> Rebuilding a bit more than what is strictly needed sounds fine as a > >> first solution to me. > > > > Building maybe. But how do you want to pub

Re: Bits from the Release Team: Cambridge sprint update

2023-12-18 Thread Santiago Vila
El 17/12/23 a las 22:40, Steven Robbins escribió: On Saturday, December 16, 2023 12:23:46 P.M. CST Paul Gevers wrote: Another topic we covered is the volume and purpose of our mail list (debian-devel@lists.debian.org). We recognize that that list mostly just mirrors BTS traffic. The BTS already

Re: mutt removed from testing while the bug was closed (fixed)

2023-10-25 Thread Santiago Vila
El 26/10/23 a las 2:11, Vincent Lefevre escribió: This seems to be due to a bug in the BTS [...] Hello. This is a bug or a feature depending on how you look at it. Reopening a bug is known to clear the version on which it was closed (I think this normally makes sense and the cases where it doe

Re: debci / salsa ci: support for qemu runner

2023-07-25 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
supporting nested-virtualisation (such as N1 or N2, instead of E1). I cannot say if that is possible/feasible. Thanks to the Salsa Admins for their work, BTW! I can talk for some of the debci *ARM* runners, and the current setup doesn't support nested virtualisation either. Cheers, -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2023-07-22 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 10/07/23 a las 14:52, Helmut Grohne escribió: > On Sun, Jul 09, 2023 at 05:58:07PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On top of that, a minimal installation chroot doesn't need a > > fully-featured dhcp client. As Simon said already, busybox is there > > for any reason for a minimal one. For the re

Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2023-07-05 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 22/06/23 a las 09:57, Santiago Ruano Rincón escribió: > El 20/06/23 a las 08:29, Martin-Éric Racine escribió: > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 9:11 PM Santiago Ruano Rincón > > wrote: > > > El 19/06/23 a las 13:54, Martin-Éric Racine escribió: > > > > Greetings

Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2023-06-22 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 20/06/23 a las 08:29, Martin-Éric Racine escribió: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 9:11 PM Santiago Ruano Rincón > wrote: > > El 19/06/23 a las 13:54, Martin-Éric Racine escribió: > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Seeing how the ISC DHCP suite has reached EOL upst

Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2023-06-19 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Hi, El 19/06/23 a las 13:54, Martin-Éric Racine escribió: > Greetings, > > Seeing how the ISC DHCP suite has reached EOL upstream, now might be a > good time to re-visit Debian's choice of standard DHCP client shipping > with priority:important. > > I hereby propose bin:dhcpcd-base: > > 1) alre

Re: add make-4.4.1 to experimental

2023-03-18 Thread Santiago Vila
El 18/3/23 a las 4:00, Ilari Jääskeläinen escribió: There is a new upstream release available. We already know. It's already reported (twice) in the BTS: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1029106 If you absolutely need to use make 4.4.1, you can try this, which is what I did:

Re: Bug#995189: RFH: isc-dhcp

2023-03-08 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 08/03/23 a las 11:37, Philipp Hahn escribió: > Hello Santiago, > > Am 08.03.23 um 11:17 schrieb Santiago Ruano Rincón: > > El 08/03/23 a las 10:45, Philipp Hahn escribió: > > > Am 07.03.23 um 20:26 schrieb Ansgar: > > > > On Tue, 2023-03-07 at 11:55 +0100,

Re: Bug#995189: RFH: isc-dhcp

2023-03-08 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
ofessional support services" > to get future patches we can apply? > > Do we do our users a service by keeping that dead horse alive for another 2+ > years? While being quite stable it had a steady stream of security issues: > <https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/isc-dhcp> > > Philipp > -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: 32bit arch packages are built with wrong ownership due to fakeroot bug

2023-02-10 Thread Santiago Vila
El 10/2/23 a las 3:18, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues escribió: So the chgrp call in Makefile.am worked correctly and set the group owner to "mail" but after dh_install moved mutt_dotlock from debian/tmp/ to debian/mutt/ using 'cp -a' (if I'm reading the code correctly) the group ownership info

Re: 32bit arch packages are built with wrong ownership due to fakeroot bug

2023-02-10 Thread Santiago Vila
El 10/2/23 a las 3:18, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues escribió: I do not understand what makes you think that only packages using dh_fixperms -X are affected? I think what makes the two packages that I found fail to have correct permissions is that they both use dh_install which in turn uses 'c

Re: 32bit arch packages are built with wrong ownership due to fakeroot bug

2023-02-09 Thread Santiago Vila
El 9/2/23 a las 15:37, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues escribió: I wanted to bring fakeroot bugs #1023286 and #1030638 to the attention of a wider audience because even though I filed these bugs, Thanks for bringing this up! Can you confirm if all this is correct? - Only packages uploaded af

Re: Consensus on closing old bugs

2023-02-06 Thread Santiago Vila
El 6/2/23 a las 11:26, Brian Thompson escribió: I understand that the usual way to close out bug reports is having the original author do it themselves. What's the policy on closing bug reports that haven't had activity in over 6 months? Let the maintainers handle their bugs. Old bugs should n

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-30 Thread Santiago Vila
El 30/1/23 a las 14:05, Guillem Jover escribió: Given the number of packages that currently declare a dependency on tzdata (34~), the ones that seem to have the most potential to pull it for others are language bindings such as python3-dateutil, python3-tz ruby-tzinfo, etc, which handle timezone

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-30 Thread Santiago Vila
El 30/1/23 a las 13:41, Santiago Vila escribió: Note: I've downgraded the bugs in dispute to important, so they are not RC anymore, per request of Sebastian Ramacher. I mean: Sebastian started to downgrade them, and I've downgraded the remaining open bugs which were not downgraded

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-30 Thread Santiago Vila
El 27/1/23 a las 22:37, Adrian Bunk escribió: Speaking as someone who is doing a lot of QA work, [...] Note: I've downgraded the bugs in dispute to important, so they are not RC anymore, per request of Sebastian Ramacher. I just wanted to point out that the "it's more work for me" argument goe

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-29 Thread Santiago Vila
El 29/1/23 a las 9:56, Sebastian Ramacher escribió: On 2023-01-28 15:55:05 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Historically, we have not treated FTBFS bugs as falling into the category of mass bug filing or requiring this pre-discussion. Various folks have been mass-filing FTBFS bugs near the release fr

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-29 Thread Santiago Vila
El 28/1/23 a las 14:41, Ansgar escribió: Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues writes: I think the much more interesting question is in what environment we want to build our packages in. Currently, on buildds, we build them in a chroot that has Priority:required and build-essential because of (what I

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Santiago Vila
El 28/1/23 a las 22:18, Adrian Bunk escribió: On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 09:45:14PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: ... The other one: There are a bunch of packages whose unit tests rely on tzdata. The tzdata package changes often during the lifetime of stable, and as a result, some package might

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Santiago Vila
El 28/1/23 a las 20:44, Sebastian Ramacher escribió: On 2023-01-28 15:03:04 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 12:24:47PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: ... * Those bugs are RC by definition and have been for a long time. ... Please provide a pointer where a release team member

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Santiago Vila
El 28/1/23 a las 20:35, Adrian Bunk escribió: I have so far not seen any technical arguments why removing tzdata from the build essential set would be better for Debian than keeping it there. Removing tzdata reduces the size of a chroot that has the build dependencies for the hello package instal

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Santiago Vila
El 28/1/23 a las 13:59, Adrian Bunk escribió: Policy 4.2 also says Source packages should specify which binary packages they require to be installed or not to be installed in order to build correctly. We are not following the "not to be installed" part, which is the can of worms you would

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Santiago Vila
El 28/1/23 a las 12:50, Andreas Henriksson escribió: Policy is not a religion. Policy has many bugs. Policy is very outdated. buildd is not a religion. buildd has bugs, etc. Claiming there's no point to free software when the problem is simply that you are using an *unsupported* setup?!?! U

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-28 Thread Santiago Vila
El 28/1/23 a las 10:11, Vincent Bernat escribió: On 2023-01-28 00:20, Santiago Vila wrote: Release Policy exists as a canonical list of what should be RC and > what not, and it's intended to avoid stupid discussions like this one. Extending build-essential is easier than asking man

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2023-01-27 Thread Santiago Vila
El 27/1/23 a las 22:37, Adrian Bunk escribió: On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 02:15:13AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: Greetings. I'm doing archive-wide rebuilds again. I've just filed 21 bugs with subject "Missing build-depends on tzdata" in bookworm (as tzdata is not build-ess

Re: Help trying to debug an sbuild failure?

2022-12-26 Thread Santiago Vila
El 26/12/22 a las 20:29, Theodore Ts'o escribió: I: The directory does not exist inside the chroot. This is really a problem with schroot. I guess that this will not work either: schroot -c the-chroot-name This usually works when you are in your $HOME because this file: /etc/schroot/default/

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2022-12-17 Thread Santiago Vila
El 16/12/22 a las 18:55, Andreas Metzler escribió: I am wondering if there is point to this or whether policy should be changed? Is there some value in investing work in having packages buildable without Prioriry required packages? I'd like to apologize to Andreas for my previous answer, as I b

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2022-12-16 Thread Santiago Vila
El 16/12/22 a las 18:55, Andreas Metzler escribió: I am wondering if there is point to this or whether policy should be changed? Is there some value in investing work in having packages buildable without Prioriry required packages? Please do not misrepresent what I said. I never proposed such

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2022-12-16 Thread Santiago Vila
El 16/12/22 a las 4:39, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues escribió: I think truly fixing this problem is a bit more tricky because most build tools like the sbuild schroot backend require apt being installed in the chroot. As of today, the sbuild schroot backend is unable to function with a chroot

Please, minimize your build chroots

2022-12-15 Thread Santiago Vila
Greetings. I'm doing archive-wide rebuilds again. I've just filed 21 bugs with subject "Missing build-depends on tzdata" in bookworm (as tzdata is not build-essential). This is of course not fun for the maintainers, but it's also not fun for people doing QA, because those bugs could be caught

Re: [Salsa CI] stop building dbgsym packages by default?

2022-11-14 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 12/11/22 a las 13:16, Otto Kekäläinen escribió: > Hi! > > On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 01:08, Santiago Ruano Rincón > wrote: > > Aiming to reduce the space used in the salsa infrastructure by the > > salsa-ci artifacts, and to avoid exceeding the size limit in build jobs, &g

[Salsa CI] stop building dbgsym packages by default?

2022-11-09 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
is: should `DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=noautodbgsym` be opt-in or enabled by default? For the Salsa CI Team, -- Santiago P.S. If you are interested on the development of Salsa CI, don't hesitate to subscribe to https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-salsa-ci signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
3. Next I would > choose 1 because I think /etc belongs to the sysadmin not packages. 5. transitional packages along with a helper package (that fails or success during install) to prompt the user so they add non-free-firmware section when needed. Is there any reason why you are not considering 5.? Cheers! -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

More on nonfree firmware transitional packages (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-13 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
because the new > > component isn't enabled. Good point! > Maybe and idea would to do something like isa-support does for e.g > sseX-support > on CPUs that does not have that feature: It fails on installation with an > debconf message, IIRC. > So that would allow something like "new package" | > "you-need-to-enable-nonfree-firmware-reminder-package" And this could solve the issue, indeed. Picking up my other mail in the thread, the transitional packages could be summarised like this: bullseye: firmware-linux-nonfree (non-free) bookworm: firmware-linux-nonfree (non-free) - empty Depends: firmware-linux-nonfree-bookworm* (non-free-firmware) | non-free-firmware-needed-warning-package trixie: firmware-linux-nonfree-bookworm (non-free-firmware) - empty Depends: firmware-linux-nonfree (non-free-firmware) trixie+1 (forky): firmware-linux-nonfree (non-free-firmware) and so on. * find a better name/suffix Would this make sense? I could volunteer to test this and propose the needed new package, unless someone else wants to do it. Cheers, -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Russian locale on reprotest in Salsa CI?

2022-10-13 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 13/10/22 a las 10:48, Joerg Jaspert escribió: > Am 2022-10-13 10:13, schrieb Andreas Tille: > > > my Russian is a bit rusty but I can understand what I can read here: > >https://salsa.debian.org/science-team/cimfomfa/-/jobs/3372898#L1249 > > > I'm just a bit astonished to see this locale s

Re: transitional packages? (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-03 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 03/10/22 a las 19:40, Shengjing Zhu escribió: > On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 7:31 PM Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > > > 3 octobre 2022 11:11 "Santiago Ruano Rincón" a > > écrit: > > > El 02/10/22 a las 20:42, Michael Biebl escribió: > > >

Re: transitional packages? (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-03 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 03/10/22 a las 11:31, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud escribió: > 3 octobre 2022 11:11 "Santiago Ruano Rincón" a écrit: > > El 02/10/22 a las 20:42, Michael Biebl escribió: > >> Am 02.10.22 um 20:14 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > >> On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 10:52

transitional packages? (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-03 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
I have the same > fear as Russ that this particular change might go unnoticed. > Couldn't we handle this via transitional firware* non-free packages, that depend on bookworm non-free-firmware packages? Cheers, -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: ifupdown/dhcp

2022-05-08 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 08/05/22 a las 11:24, Michael Stone escribió: > [apologies to package aliases getting this twice due to autocomplete fail] > > I've been trying to make sense of the NEWS item in isc-dhcp-client (that > alternatives are needed) in combination with the functionality of ifupdown > and what the imp

Re: Is there room for improvement in our collaboration model?

2022-04-15 Thread Santiago R.R.
On April 15, 2022 2:24:33 PM GMT+02:00, Luca Boccassi wrote: >On Fri, 2022-04-15 at 00:17 -0400, M. Zhou wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just noted this problem recently. Our model for team collaboration >> (specifically for >> package maintenance) is somewhat primitive. >> >> We are volunteers. Nobod

Re: Bug#995189: RFH: isc-dhcp

2021-09-28 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
s (thing that I needed at work). It is a pity that ISC is giving less love to it. That said, the EOL date is still TBA (https://www.isc.org/dhcp/) -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Solokeys (was: Nitrokey for DDs)

2020-09-09 Thread Santiago R.R.
A port: https://solokeys.com/products/somu-tiny-security-key-two-factor-authentication-u2f-and-fido2-usb-a (similar to one of the yubikey versions) However, AFAIKS, OpenPGP support is still on development. Cheers, -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#941666: ITP: vega-datasets -- Collection of datasets used in Vega and Vega-Lite examples

2019-10-03 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Santiago Ruano Rincón" * Package name: vega-datasets Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : Jake Vanderplas * URL : https://github.com/altair-viz/vega_datasets * License : MIT and others. Programming La

Bug#941599: ITP: altair -- Declarative Visualization in Python

2019-10-02 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Santiago Ruano Rincón" * Package name: altair Version : 3.2.0 Upstream Author : Jake Vanderplas, Brian Granger, the UW Interactive Data Lab, et al. * URL : https://altair-viz.github.io/ * License : BS

Re: fixing debian-security-support upgrades from stretch (for good)

2019-05-13 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 11:32:36AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > hi, > > so there is "#928172 debian-security-support: fails to upgrade from 'testing': > dpkg: error: error executing hook" which happens when base-files is upgraded > before debian-security-support (but doesnt happen if d-s-s is upg

Re: Music player & privacy (was: ITP: elisa)

2018-04-10 Thread Santiago R.R.
El 10/04/18 a las 10:50, W. Martin Borgert escribió: > Quoting Paul Wise : > > I think we need a privacy team. Such a team could verify the privacy > > status of packages and record that information centrally. > > I agree. And volunteer. > > (Messages with the word "volunteer" in the body are nev

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