> > Age indicates how many revisions of the library have been upwards
> > compatible. If you are at revision 7 and still have all the interfaces
> from> revision 6 unchanged, and 6 had the same for 5, and ... 4 for 3,
> then age is> 7 - 3 = 4.
> >
>
> I see what your saying, but dont you mean curr
> e.g. The definition of the age field in -version-info
> current:revision:age
>
> age
> The difference between the newest and oldest interfaces that this
> library implements. In other words, the library implements all the
> interface numbers in the range from number current - age to current.
A
> then, in .., dpkg-source looks for _.orig.tar.gz.
> If
> found, it creates a diff. If that orig.tar.gz is NOT found, it makes a
> full
> tar.
>
> Nothing more complex than that.
Indeed. I had org.tar.gz (typo) and couldn't see what was wrong. Thanks!
YA
> Compare these oddities with the fact that there are _no_ problems for you
> to package your program non-native while including a complete debian/
> subdir in the upstream version and I hope you understand why it's better
> to package your program non-native.
So this is where I get lost: how can
> The discussion about what is wrong with making external packages
> native is reiterated once every few months, and I'm not going to
> repeat it here. Search the archives.
I read some of the discussion (and am going to read all of it). I think that
there are a number of advantages to having the d
> > Surely this is documented in the Policy or the Developers' Reference?
>
> I thought the same thing. Before I replied to this post, I tried to look
> up
> a reference, and I was amazed that there wasn't one. The FAQ was the only
> place that mentioned it, and all that it said was that a nativ
> A Debian native source package is one which has no .diff.gz, because the
> Debian source code and the upstream source code are the same thing. This
> means that the source tarball contains a debian/ directory with the
> necessary packaging infrastructure. This configuration is used for
> packag
> > Since it was trying to tar up 'icu' (which is a symlink) for whatever
> > reason, it may be that dpkg-source tried to create a tarfile containing
> only
> > that. dpkg-source just does a "tar cf -", so symlinks would not be
> > followed. I could see how that might have caused some confusion.
> > if test -d build -a build != source; then rm -f -r build; fi
> > dpkg-source -b icu
> > dpkg-source: warning: source directory `./icu' is not
> > - `icu-2.0'
> > dpkg-source: building icu in icu_2.0-1.tar.gz
> > dpkg-source: building icu in icu_2.0-1.dsc
>
> Why is icu a Debian native packag
> > Whilst building my package, I get (from dpkg-dev 1.9.18, debhelper
> 3.0.51):
>
> What command did you run to do this? What you probably meant was
> dpkg-buildpackage.
I did use dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
Here's more of the log:
if test -d build -a build != source; then rm -f -r build; f
in `../icu-locales_2.0-1_i386.deb'.
dpkg-deb: building package `icu-data' in `../icu-data_2.0-1_all.deb'.
dpkg-deb: building package `icu-i18ndata' in
`../icu-i18ndata_2.0-1_all.deb'.
signfile icu_2.0-1.dsc
cat: ../icu_2.0-1.dsc: No such file or directory
You need a passphr
> b) give the Project Leader the ability to stop stupid things like the
>/usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc debate, and just pick an option.
That's been the case at some point. Isn't it true anymore?
> c) Accept all new-maintainer applications, now. Accept future
>applications immediately. Allow
> As for the discussion, APT actually has such a feature cleverly
> undocumented and unmentioned - if you flag a package as Impotant: then
> its downtime is minizimized by the ordering code.
Speaking of ordering, there's some bad catch 22 happening when you
deinstall a bunch of packages at the sam
> [This long approval times may be desired by Debian because there are
> already too many developers and packages.]
> This may be correct. I can't judge. But it seems to me that if some-
> one volunteers time and effort to the project, common courtesy demands
> /at least/ an autoreply acknowledgi
> Did you explain this to new-maintainer ? Do you still have your old PGP
> key ?
I did explain that. Since nobody answered, I have no idea if it's been
received (except for my mail not bouncing, that is). I don't have my old
PGP key. In fact, if you look at the keyservers, you'll see that I've
n
Hi,
I know this has been a topic recently, but I really wonder how long it
takes to get a membership. Is it something that can be estimated at
least? I didn't receive any reply to the email I sent to the new
maintainers alias, not even one automatic one giving an idea of the
timeframe.
Now, what
Hi,
I have recently made the package compface (can be found in unstabe) containg
the shared library libcompface. Now I am trying to make a package xfaces that
uses this library. But I can't get dpkg-shlibdeps working. This is what is
says:
# dpkg-shlibdeps xfaces
dpkg-shlibde
Package: gcc
Version: 2.7.2.1
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 16
Xref: marin.sevy.fr mail.other:611
X-Gnus-Newsgroup: mail.other:611 Mon Sep 30 22:22:27 1996
Gcc canno
ved'
else
$echo 'failed to remove'
exit 0
Because there is a missing 'fi' before the exit, the unpacking terminates
with an erro.
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> It would be nice if we had a "style guide" so that the different
> packages could all use the same style. What do you think?
>
Cool, I'm not the only one this bothered. Let's change it. Can
we? Please, please! B-)
Yes, yes! Let's start sentences with uppercase, and don't use
plain...
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I'd like to upload povray3. Given the size of the stuff and my slow connection
I'd prefer to go through chiark. Is it possible at the moment?
Thanks,
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the lprm
'permission denied' problem, so this is welcome too... But I'd like to
access bug reports for Apache too.)
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Many of the modules offered are called "*required*" which didn't seem
to me to be required. Sorry, I forget which ones exactly.
But I chose not to load common_log_module and got a syntax error due
to the TransferLog directive.
So, wasn't this one required? The way the configuration pr
package (I know it is binary, but then it should be
handled anyway)? Or is there a solution?
Thanks for any info,
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The old lpr package had some facility for invoking ghostscript on PS
files; this new package doesn't provide this. The old method still
required manual entries to /etc/filter.* ; IMHO the automatic
conversion is magicfilter's job. (I could add a Recommends:
magicfilter)
A Suggests:
Package: xdevel
Version: 3.1.2-3
In order to have shared libraries built as ELF by default, the file
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/linux.cf should have the symbols LinuxElfDefault
and UseElfFormat defined to YES by default.
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Yves Arrouye writes:
Yves> I'd like to take the a2ps package if its maintainer does not plan to
Yves> maintain it anymore: I have patches to make it work with libpaper
Yves> that I'd like to see in the Debian version.
To best of my knowledge, a2ps an
...)
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I'd like to take the a2ps package if its maintainer does not plan to
maintain it anymore: I have patches to make it work with libpaper that
I'd like to see in the Debian version.
Yves.
I think the solution is in dpkg-genchanges(1):
-Dfield=value
Override or add an output control file field. This
option is understood by dpkg-source, dpkg-
gencontrol and dpkg-genchanges.
Or -m"My Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>". Y
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Package: tm
Version: 7.84-1
The README.debian dile in /usr/doc/tm says to (require 'tm-init) but the
file is not provided by the package.
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email address should
use /etc/mailname (my host name, for example, cannot get mail because
his real name and email names are different, even in different
domains).
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This would create a dependency to gzip package, but I think that this
already exists when we package the pages zipped!
Is it possible that a debian system be without gzip?
No: gzip is marked as essential.
marin40# dpkg -s gzip
Package: gzip
Essential: yes
Status: install ok installed
Pr
Hello,
I certainly mistakenly put Apache in non-free when I took over the package.
I'd like to put it back into net, but can you tell me if its license, which
follows, allows that? (I think it can).
Thanks,
Yves.
/*
* Copyrig
> I'd just like to know if someone's already doing that. If not, I'll do it.
> Yves.
I'd been thinking about it, but I just don't have the time. I'd love
to see one though.
Okay. It will be out as soon as I will be able to get a 0.89 libpng
package on the archives. This will be befor
>
> 1427032 Sep 19 23:28 povray3-manual_3.0.10-1_all.deb
> 1352325 Sep 19 23:26 povray3-manual_3.0.10.orig.tar.gz
>
> What can explain this 72kb difference in size? Is one of the files
> more compressed than the other one, or is it because of the .deb
> format?
I suppose
> Package: psutils
> Version: 1.16-3
>
> The psmerge utility only writes the prolog of files it reads. It is even
> not able to merge a single file (which should be equivalent to a cat).
> Looking at the source, it looks like some parts of the PS are gobbled
> without being pr
size? Is one of the files
more compressed than the other one, or is it because of the .deb
format?
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e-wide zsh
functions, for example?
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The /usr/lib/perl5/getopts.pl is broken: it won't take more than one option
with an argument. More precisely: for Getopts('abcde:fghij'), only -e will
care
about its argument, not -a, -b, -c or -d. The previous version had not this
problem. Here is the old one:
Jean,
Je crois que c'
an equivalent soon :-().
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I'd just like to know if someone's already doing that. If not, I'll do it.
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do we choose to use /usr/share for locales, for example? I
remember we discussed that and adopted /usr/share, no?
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tions
got from the shlibs file in installed package. Maybe there's a problem
actually? In the meantime, I use shlibs.local...
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hand, when I build without needing to statically link, I do
cc -shared *.o -lsomelib -o name.so
I think the -lsomelib is not useful since there's no link phase. Can I
remove it?
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Package: mh
Version: 6.8.4-2
The /usr/lib/mh/packmbox script should set PATH to contain /usr/bin/mh if
it does not when called, otherwise programs are not found.
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ld be nice would be to have gs installed with a single
compiled-in font (see font2c) that would be the default, so that even
without gsfonts or any other installed fonts, and of course without a
Fontmap (which would be provided by gsfonts), gs would work.
Yves.
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they should be under ghostscript/fonts, not ghostscript/4.01/fonts.
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Hello,
I am building a package which will provide different binaries packages, and
tried to use a control file like:
Source: php
Section: net
Priority: optional
Maintainer: Yves Arrouye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Standards-Version: 2.0.1.0
Package: php-module
Architecture: any
D
Hello,
I try to connect to master.debian.org for three days without success. Ping
fails, and traceroute cannot reach it too. What happened?
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I know. My 1.1.1 package is ready and I will upload it this week, I think.
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e asking for help on this installation process will certainly
find more help; in addition they will also be able to monitor the
group for administration problems that interest them (for example
printing, PPP, dial on demand, etc.) as first-time or long-time users.
Yves.
P.S.: Sorry Bruce,
Package: dpkg
Version: 1.3.14
If one unfinalizes a version with C-c C-e, and then uses C-c C-a, an extra
blank lines appear between changes.
Yves.
P.S.: BTW, the help message should say "Use C-c C-e" not "Use ^c^e", which
is not Emacs usage.
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Depends)
but I don't know why there is a warning here. In addition, I'd like to
know if I have to copy a shlibs file like this:
libpaper 1 libpaper (>= 1.0.2-1)
in debian/tmp/DEBIAN before building the binary package?
Yves.
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Package: gzip
Version: 1.2.4-11
Here is an example:
marin10# /usr/bin/zgrep -B 10 -i Spread /var/lib/dpkg/Packages.gz
Spread.gz: No such file or directory
Saying 'zcat /var/lib/dpkg/Packages.gz | grep -B 10 -i Spread' works,
of course.
Yves.
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about compatibility with other BSD'ish lpd-based systems. I
} could live with this easily.
Especially if LPRng's postinst does that for us ;-). But does it mean
the BSD lpr should be obsoleted?
BTW, has anybody heard about a free lp spooler?
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I know one can have a big file containing customization for all the X apps,
but I'd like to be able to modify the app-defaults/xxx file for the xxx
app. without having it being overwritten when a new release of xxx is
available? Is this a bad idea?
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apers but other attributes like color, weigth etc in the future.
In addition to that we're really talking about paper names, not sizes.
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Date: 24 Aug 96 09:24 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Yves Arrouye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: libpaper
Version: 1.0.1-1
Binary: libpaper
Architecture: i386 source
Description:
libpaper: Library for handling
Hello,
I'll upload libpaper_1.0-2 as soon as possible. It fixes the actual bugs
and contains a TODO file in doc/ explaining what I'd like to make in a
future release. If you're interested in paper size handling, please read
this file and comment on it.
Thanks,
Yves.
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> Package: libpaper
> Version: 1.0-1
>
> The package contains:
> -r--r--r-- root/root 718 Aug 13 18:04 1996 usr/man/man1/paper.1.gz
>
> 2. Either it should not be compressed (see the guidelines) or we
> should mandate compressed manpages.
I remember that a long time ago it was said that i
> Package: libpaper
> Version: 1.0-1
>
> The package contains /etc/papersize as a dpkg-handled conffile, but
> this file is also modified by many packages' maintainer scripts
> (including those of libpaper).
>
> This is forbidden. See the dpkg programmers' manual.
As I said before, this will b
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On Tue, 20 Aug 1996
cron_3.0pl1-33.deb
Apparently the install fails because the installation script is run with
-e set. If I touch /usr/sbin/cron, it installs fine.
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-P1-3.deb (--install):
subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
bind_4.9.3-P1-3.deb
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Erick Branderhorst writes:
>
> Package: libpaper
> Version: 0.4-1
>
> Right now libpaper comes with a /etc/papersize file containing "letter "
> at the first line. IMO it should ask at postinst time what papersize is
> wanted and should create /etc/papersize with the received value.
Thi
Please do not use 0.* versions anymore.
The next release (1.0-1) will have a paperconfig paper configuration
script instead of having /etc/papersize as a conffile.
Yves.
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Date: 13 Aug 96 17:16 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Yves
They get stuck in my home, and I can't connect again (the connection
is lost everytime I want to log in). Can someone please put
~arrouye/libpaper_1.0*
in
/home/Debian/ftp/private/project/Incoming
for me, please?
Alternatively, developers who need it (Ian, Joost) can just fetch
Please add me as a supporter of Lar's suggestion for xpostitplus (make the
xpostit program intelligent enough to read its old format...). Then we
can assume that if I started the better version I don't want to read
notes using the older one.
Yves.
ormat: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Yves Arrouye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: compress-package
Version: 1.3-1
Binary: compress-package
Architecture: all source
Description:
compress-package: fileset to build Debian compress packages
Changes:
* The package is no
Package: ghostview
Version: 1.5-6
Ghostview should read the bounding box of a document in any case,
regardless of wether it is an EPSF file or not. If no such box is
provided, then it can default to a given media.
It should also temporarily change the media when the bounding box of
a page is not
Thanks.
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Brian C. White writes:
> > I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people
> > not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel.
> >
> > Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ?
>
> If it is relavent to me specifically (eg. relates
Could it be possible to ask for bug reports by email by number or package
name? This would be nice and serve two purposes:
- when someone says "it's related to bug #xxx", look for that bug;
- when taking over a package, getting a list of the bugs reported
for that package.
In both cases,
LaTeX installation should
be put in an /usr/sbin/spconfig script run by the postinst script.
If LaTeX or linuxdoc-sgml are not installed, it would be nice to
get a message saying that whenever the two are installed the admin
should run spconfig to get the sp support for LaTeX.
Yves.
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> Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: CC's on this mailing list"):
> ...
> > I've noticed on some other lists that everything that is posted on the
> > list has From: set to the original sender, Reply-To: to the list address
> > and Cc: deleted.
> >
> > This is actually
Package: xpostitplus
Version: 2.2-1
When the new xpostitplus starts, none of the previous notes appear. What's
bad is that if one creates a new note and saves it, it silently replaces
a previous note :-(
It would be nice if the postint finded all existing .postitnotes directories
and updated thei
Ian Jackson writes:
> Also I propose to mandate in the policy manual that packages which use
> /opt should provide appropriate links or files in
> /opt/{bin,lib,man,include,info,doc} and that packages which search
> paths must look in /opt too. Comments ? (And see the recent
> FSSTND/FHS wor
Could it be put in paths.h as soon as possible now that it appears we'll
use it?
Yves.
Maybe should it kill the process whose pid is in the pidfile, even if
it does not think the executable is running?
Here is an example of the problem:
marin66# /etc/init.d/apache stop
no /usr/sbin/apache found; none killed.
marin67# cat /var/run/apache/apache.pid
12707
marin68# ps -ax|grep 12707
Ian Jackson writes:
> I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people
> not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel.
>
> Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ?
It would be nice also to not have long messages fully quoted :-(
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes:
> You (Yves Arrouye) wrote:
> > GDB 4.15.1 (i486-linux), Copyright 1995 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
> >
> > "0¨´
> > @/core": not in executable format: File format not recognized
> >
> > So there&#x
Ian Jackson writes:
> Yves Arrouye writes ("Qmail, smail and sendmail"):
> > Does qmail support /etc/aliases, have a newaliases command and support
> > being called as sendmail with the -bi option?
> >
> > The same questions may be asked for smail.
&
Package: netstd
Version: 2.05-1
The ftp command, at least in a xterm, does not let one stop mget:
ftp> mget x*
mget xarclock_1.0-1.deb?
Continue with mget? mget xautolock_pl10-2.deb?
Continue with mget? mget xaw3d_1.2a-5.deb?
Continue with mget? mget xbase_3.1.2-9.deb?
Continue with mget? mge
Hello,
I'd like to ask to be in charge of a Debian package for Amaya, which
will go public in the next weeks.
Amaya is a WWW WYSIWYG editor/browser supporting structured edition
and cascading style sheets among other features. It is realized by
the W3C as was Arena.
I'd like to maintain this pac
Package: xcontrib
Version: 2.1.2-1
marin146# xgc
That test doesn't exist yet.
That test doesn't exist yet.
zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) xgc
What I did was:
- select Function orReverse
- select LineStyle DoubleDash
- select (Image Text 16), click Run [gives test
marin157# file core
core: ELF 32-bit LSB core file, Intel 80386, version 1, stripped
marin158# gdb core
GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it
under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warra
I'd like to know if there's a qmail Debian package, and how aliases
work in qmail: the Apache package used to add an alias to /etc/aliases
and then run sendmail -bi (or newaliases).
Does qmail support /etc/aliases, have a newaliases command and support
being called as sendmail with the -bi option?
>
> There should be one zcat and it should always be gzip. This won't
> break anything as gzip understands .Z files...
>
> Making zcat point to compress even sometimes will definitely break
> things; IME much of the Linux world has been assuming it's gzip for a
> number of years. That se
Ian Jackson writes:
> > I do, however, think we should move the examples directory. I've
> > always thought the distinction between /usr/doc/ and
> > /usr/doc/examples/ was arbitrary. It usually leads to the
> > obtuse arrangement where the example is in one directory and its
> > accompanyin
Erick Branderhorst writes:
>
> Package: libpaper, gs
> Version: 0.2-1, 3.53-4
>
> Oef what do I hate these errors. The "<" char indicates the EOL char.
>
> # cat /etc/papersize
> A4 <
> # gs -h
> Warning: unknown papersize in /etc/papersize
> Aladdin Ghostscript 3.53 (1996-1-10)
> [d
Michael Meskes writes:
> Package: compress-package
> Version: 1.2-1
>
> Compiling and installing the compress source found on ftp.inria.fr I get a
> file /usr/bin/zcat. However, gzip already install zcat in /bin. I cannot see
> how it's useful to have both. :-)
Hmmm. This is somewhat more c
>
> Oh, BTW, this has nothing to do with libpaper (I don't know why you
> think it does, gs doesn't depend on libpaper, and has been reading
> /etc/papersize before the existance of libpaper.)
>
> I do wonder if libpaper does a better job,
Yes it does ;-) That's its big advantage: centrali
James D. Freels writes:
> I took the advice of a couple of individuals:
>
> (1) installed wg15_locale_1-1
>
> (2) already had perl_5.003-2 installed
>
> This did not fix the problem below. I have verified that the
> /usr/share/locale and /usr/share/nls directories are present.
>
> >w
Erick Branderhorst writes:
>
> > If the files there really depend on each other, then it may be nice
> > to require that each .el file contains
> >
> >(provide 'site-start-xxx)
> >
> > (as the *last* line so nothing is provided in case of error), and other
> > files will just us
Hello,
I'd like to suggest that scripts, debian.rules etc... use gunzip -c instead
of zcat when the intent is to get the contents of a gzipped file on stdout.
This is because if binaries from a BSD compress package (not necessarily
built with compress-package) will make a true zcat available on th
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