[ ⏰ 11/11/2015 23:28 ] [ ✎ Jeroen Dekkers ]
> Documentation should be put in /usr/share/doc, not in /etc. I always
> find it annoying to have to review lots of comment changes in
> configuration files during upgrades instead of simply the options that
> actually changed. With big config files it of
[ ⏰ 11/11/2015 18:14 ] [ ✎ Marc Haber ]
> Once and for all we're doing _SOMETHING_ right, let's keep it that
> way.
I do not agree that we are doing something exactly right. I would like
/etc to only contain what I changed (as a sysadmin), and nothing else ;
AND I would like to be warned if somethi
[ ⏰ 12/02/2015 06:15 ] [ ✎ Nikolaus Rath ]
>> How dare you write ... instead of the proper … :-P
> I'm curious, how do you type that in conviently? I hope it's not copying
> and pasting from a template file, and remembering (and/or finding out)
> the X11 Compose sequence seems cumbersome too.
>
> B
[ ⏰ 29/07/2014 07:55 ] [ ✎ Wouter Verhelst ]
> Op dinsdag 29 juli 2014 10:51:45 schreef Brian May:
>> So ideally I only want to depend on libapache2-mod-wsgi if apache2 is
>> installed, but this is not possible.
> Sure it is.
>
> Depends: apache2 | libapache2-mod-wsgi, apache2 | httpd
>
> is perfe
[ ⏰ 26/06/2014 15:34 ] [ ✎ Thorsten Glaser ]
> Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
>
>> So that students can do eg ssh mybuddymachine /sbin/shutdown ?
>>
>> (and they need to be able to shutdown their own machine, power is not free).
>
> Why do people always think that
ot used to (or got
used to its workarounds), but as a solution now exists, the status quo
is threatened.
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m xemacs) is
missing?
It happens that this one is solved in emacs24, not in emacs23.
What should be done: reassign to emacs23 (which obviously will never fix
it), or just close it?
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oftware. This means that by
some interpretation (Ian Jackson said so, for example), the AGPL will
contaminate texlive, whereas the GPL did not.
Do you see what changed there?
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supporting
proprietary software creaters would probably, in some of these
interpretations, require considering not allowing Debian to be used for
non-free software, which would bar us from using almost all currently
DFSG-free software. Is that what you meant by "we shouldn't support
proprietary software creaters"? Because providing them our wonderful
distribution is supporting them.
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x27;s example. ]]]
This is your idea. However, as shown by [GR2004-2], this is not the
opinion of the project.
[GR2004-2]: http://www.debian.org/vote/2004/vote_002
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pt-get or any other package management interface is your friend.
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Le 2014-02-21 09:57, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
On 02/21/2014 09:29 AM, Mario Lang wrote:
I am sorry, both are not an option for me, since alsamixer is a
ncurses
program, and pavucontrol apparently requires $DISPLAY to be set.
I guess that explains why the accessibility community has
ram or the
documentation).
If it works, then it's either a bug in pulseaudio (the debian package)
or another package (incompatible with pulseaudio; either the debian
packaging or the program).
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exception here). It may have bugs in
specific cases of hardware, but this is not the pulseaudio
maintainer/bug list address here.
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Le 2014-02-17 16:00, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
On 02/17/2014 04:02 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Well. You can't blame PulseAudio if you have an .asoundrc in your
home
directory which configures your sound card incorrectly.
Oh !!!
Now I do remember why my pulseaudio system works. It's
ils coming from
> annoying non-english people like me.
>
> Regards,
>
That's why there is a project to translate the package descriptions.
Poor man's something is correct English, is a fixed expression and
should not be changed (even if gender specific).
I would be much more
mber to back
your affirmations with technical informations (and a date), this is not
useful.
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n Xemacs and emacs.
Out of curiosity, what is in Xemacs and not in a recent emacs?
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course, this is a library, it may be used to scan other (external)
data, I understand this may be part of something bigger, but:
1. This is a bad habit
2. This is bad code
3. Seriously, one package for _18_ lines of code?
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ppy with it. If I
were unhappy, I would have switched to something else.
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were statically linked.
I would be happy to continue the work on this library, albeit as a
sponsoree or something (I am not a DD nor a DM).
The git tree was not made public, but I can provide all of my work.
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u can see that it will eventually fork off. The
trees here are very tall royal palms, and they are spaced equidistant
from each other.
There is a shovel here."
Please remarke that there is libasound2 in there, too. I can see why
notifications (and not desktop notifications) are useful on a headless
server. Much less for sound.
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very intimately.
However, the set of machines not able to switch to systemd and needing
complicated init scripts is probably quite small. And the init scripts
won't suddenly deteriorate. And I suspect that all suspicious cases will
receive bugs, and then patches, and that maintainers will integ
have no idea.
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Le 31/05/2013 13:10, Marc Haber a écrit :
> On Fri, 31 May 2013 08:41:56 +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq
> wrote:
>> Le 30/05/2013 18:29, Marc Haber a écrit :
>>> On Thu, 30 May 2013 13:56:02 +0200, Olav Vitters
>>> wrote:
>>>> Seems the solutions are v
er
would be much more useful than configuring all mailers in Debian to read
root's local mail by default. I know how to redirect root's mail
elsewhere, thank you for not making another mail account to check.
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Le 16/05/2013 08:43, Vincent Lefevre a écrit :
> On 2013-05-15 20:27:09 +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
>> No. Your server comes unconfigured, you do configure it while the other
>> is still working, and then you stop the service on the first, finish
>> syncing the mai
his is no black magic. What you want is being over-cautious and
will lead to people not understanding the basics or misanswering a
debconf question to have non-functional servers and not being aware of it.
I am definitely in the camp of you install a service, you get a working,
minimal, safe confi
cidentally types gti instead of git, an ASCII animation of a car driving
> by appears, and then git is run.
>
Please merge that with sl?
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d (too long) on having a good
workflow for this (I ended up tagging myself the upstream tree).
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ols that are both widely used in
>> business, puppet and chef.
>
> Don't forget vim-addon-manager!
>
>
Don't forget package.el for emacs!
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se bugs that are, after all, real bugs in our
distribution (even though spotting these one year ago would have made
things simpler).
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On 19/09/2012 17:52, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 12-09-19 at 05:27pm, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>> ]] Jean-Christophe Dubacq
>>
>>> And this means that automatic management is hard, because they are
>>> generated by scripts, and as such, not easy to st
hard, because they are
generated by scripts, and as such, not easy to store, compare to
default, etc.
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f downloads, that I do not have.
Oh, and this has been discussed this summer already.
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m thinks it works with gnome and not gtk, even
if it works with both at the moment, we should not expect a gtk-only
application in the future.
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On 09/09/2012 20:48, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
> I am not a specialist, but it looks to me that
> p gnome-inm-forecast - the Spanish weather forecast
> applet for the GNOME Desktop
>
> whose homepage is http://kutxa.homeunix.org/trac/gnome-inm-forecast
>
&
On 09/09/2012 20:26, Alessio Treglia wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Jean-Christophe Dubacq
> wrote:
>> gnome-maps ?
>
> I'd avoid gnome-maps, as upstream != GNOME
>
I am not a specialist, but it looks to me like
p gnome-inm-forecast - the Spani
ons? Would 'maps-client' be a good name?
>
gnome-maps ?
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x27;t have RC issues, but bug 608417 is close to one. This
> bug is worse that I expected in the first place. I got corrupted files
> several times without noticing the problem because of this bug. And
> it is fixed in emacs24.
>
And AucTeX does not work with emacs24. Even following som
e the problems, that these
> things are simply not fixd. Cannot be so complicated, right?
As a comparison point, when I use xdg-open or gnome-open, the Gnome PDF
viewer is launched. When I use see, xpdf is launched (okular not installed).
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il me, support from upstream (since
network-manager is a core component of Gnome). I may be wrong.
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On 16/06/2012 03:43, Serge wrote:
> 2012/6/15 Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
>
>>>> This is often seen as not a good move to have a user-writable directory
>>>> on the system partition(s), since this provides for easy DOS
>>>
>>> DoS like what? /
On 15/06/2012 03:11, Serge wrote:
> 2012/6/13 Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
>
>>> Why do people repeat that tmpfs is easy to resize? Yes, you need about 3
>>> commands to resize tmpfs, but you need 0 (zero!) commands to resize /tmp on
>>> disk, because it's
er-writable directory on the system
partition(s), since this provides for easy DOS (even involuntary; I know
of people daily working with 30GB files, and this easily fills the /
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stening only on localhost is rarely useful, so
the default configuration is not to listen on localhost only.
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variable $XDG_CACHE_HOME.
There is a single base directory relative to which user-specific runtime
files and other file objects should be placed. This directory is defined
by the environment variable $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR.
(http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html)
I thi
un is a root-only directory, suitable only for
> system-wide data/sockets. It absolutely must not be used for non-root data.
>
For normal users, shouldn't the applications use ~/.cache/ or whatever
the xdg vars point to?
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On 11/05/2012 19:03, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 05/12/2012 12:22 AM, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
>> I find your attitude assumes users always have the knowledge and the
>> time to investigate everything. This is not the reality.
>>
>> Sincerly,
>>
> Not
same time, I can't believe that experts
> tweaking upstart jobs wouldn't know how to restore them.
I find your attitude assumes users always have the knowledge and the
time to investigate everything. This is not the reality.
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On 11/05/2012 08:47, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> OoO Pendant le journal télévisé du jeudi 10 mai 2012, vers 20:29,
> Jean-Christophe Dubacq disait :
>
>> I do not know about trivially merging changes in the etc-overrides-lib
>> model, but in the current model, I am pr
On 10/05/2012 21:12, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 10 May 2012, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
>> I do not know about trivially merging changes in the
>> etc-overrides-lib model, but in the current model, I am presented
>> with the dpkg prompt about conffiles for some programs
ion of services.
When the merging possibilities of dpkg will have been enhanced, I may
reconsider, but currently, I prefer the
etc-overrides-lib-only-where-present as superior to the current state.
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ing, after an upgrade you will not know
> what was changed by you and what was changed upstream.
> Obviously this is not a problem for Red Hat since they do not support
> upgrades between major releases.
>
There are cases where file in /etc overrides only the directives present
in /et
of
> overhead, automate everything, and be prepared to fail quickly and
> iterate.
>
What about a dev. script that would be run in debian/ and would parse
debian/control and send the ITP? I can write that!
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Le mercredi 07 mars 2012 à 18:46 +0100, martin f krafft a écrit :
> also sprach Jean-Christophe Dubacq [2012.03.07.1825
> +0100]:
> > I, for one, would like a program that (starting from some paths on same
> > harddrive), would find all identical files (not considering mtime
mtimes should be thrown in a large lake
of boiling vinegar). Options for considering mtime and modes
discriminant are a plus (one day, I'll write this myself, if this is not
reinventing something).
If anyone happens to see such a beast, please tell me :)
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ge is a good way to stress-test our infrastructure
> for corner-case-bugs? :-)
>
> Greetings,
> Joachim
>
You could build a binary package that just contains one file (the test
suite log, maybe?). This way, anyone could check that the test suite was
passed by the version of ghc
utton in the UI
> | for enabling unattended upgrades.
I do understand that and of course I know it does not work. I was merely
suggesting that the conflict with pm-utils was not the answer.
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 08:19:01PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > Huh? I use unattended-upgrades on my laptop as a way to keep it
> > updated without having to create the cron job myself. But I don't
> > expect it to force itself to run at times where I want to the laptop
> > to sleep.
>
> Use
http://localhost:/ => bingo.
We will probably not convince you, but there are way too many
alternatives to make the packaging effort worth the time.
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There is also the /usr/doc => /usr/share/doc transition.
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On 09/05/2010 01:45, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 12:16:10AM +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
>> What if it is just installed from the tarball?
>
> Then that person is still using buggy, non-free software.
Which should not prevent this person from running it,
>
> It could add a file in /etc/sysctl.d/ to override the current
> /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf setting, and disable
> "net.ipv6.bindv6only = 1" when sun-java6 is installed. :)
>
> Happy hacking,
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kages split words at '-', so if
> you've a choice among these two the latter is preferable.
>
> Cheers.
>
If this is so, then browserplugin-* should content everyone.
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Jean-Christophe Dubacq"
Owner: "Jean-Christophe Dubacq"
This package previously existed in Debian/non-free, but was
removed due to lack of maintainership and being non-free.
Since I use this for teaching, and that the license change
d) or my laptop (testing/unstable, arch=i386). The more complicated
things I have a kvm virtual machine for, except for drivers and such.
Sincerly
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using
multiple (pinned) sources (esp. stable+testing+unstable).
Example is mktemp and diff which are (according to the tool I use for
upgrade) regularly proposed for deinstallation and then proposed for
reinstallation.
Not that it is a big problem, tough.
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On 09/03/2010 14:24, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
>
> It it's that straight forward, please help with the cruft package.
> Last time I looked (several years ago) it was severly limited by that
> problem (there not being a way to know which files should be there and
> which not).
>
> I personally thin
d enough, but is under-used, to say
the least).
I have recently taken an interest in obsolete conffiles and it's a real
mess to check whether a conffile is really obsolete (can be removed) or
is now managed by postinst (or ucf). Some conffiles left behind can have
side-effects (usual
On 02/03/2010 14:04, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 01:03:57PM +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
>>> The substvars approach sounds good to me. I think I'd use it quite a
lot,
>>> specially in libraries.
>>
>> That, however, does
ngoDB1.2 and a MongoDB1.3.
If not, then you should use epochs: upload MongoDB 1:1.2 to unstable,
and MongoDB 1:1.3 to experimental.
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cial list, and do that everytime
brasero (real package) is meant to be installed. *That* would be
reasonable, and would not interfere with what the packagers do.
And you could get "somepackagemanager undummy brasero" and
"somepackagemanager dummylist", which would be a must.
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ven for non porters as most of the
> architecture specific FTBFS issues are due to wrong assumptions like
> 32bit/64bit, little endian/big endian...
Is there somewhere a list of "how to fix"? Something simple so that
maintainers may do the right things as soon as a package is FTBFS?
dard, maybe i should look at the source.. :P
>
> So what's the best solution anyway?
> Clean the child env vars?
Or just use LC_ALL=C (or setenv("LC_ALL","C") or whatever
$ENV{"LC_ALL"}="C" you need), which should be done before launching any
localized non-interactive program from which you expect some information.
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Ben Finney a écrit :
> Noah Slater writes:
>
>> Yes, I know the L command, but thanks for pointing it out! My argument
>> is that I have to remember to use when I am replying to the Debian
>> lists, which as you can see, doesn't happen very often.
>
> No, the point of a ‘reply to list’ command i
Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> On Dec 01, Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> That would be because Evince (as does xpdf, and probably others) render
>> the whole file, even though the display window shows only a small part
>> of the file. I often
Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> On Dec 01, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Have you tried evince? For some reason, it used to be faster than the
>> other free viewers (including xpdf itself).
> Yes. Nowadays it's better indeed: after freezing the UI for 30 seconds
> while the CPU spins at
Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> On Dec 01, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody
>> know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly
> I need it to view some large/complex PDF files with reasonable
> performace.
> De
Lennart Sorensen a écrit :
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:15:59AM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
>> Thanks, you hinted me to discover it:
>>
>> $ aptitude why banshee synaptic
>> p banshee Recommends brasero
>> p brasero Recommends gnome-mount
>> p gnome-mount Dependslibeel2-2
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is missing from snapshot.debian.net ?
http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/10/
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Phillip Susi a écrit :
> Christof Krüger wrote:
>> Unfortunately, computer designers, technicians etc. are not living in an
>> isolated world (well.. maybe some of them).
>> No one wants to forbid the computer people to use base 2 numbers. They
>> are just asked to write KiB instead of KB if they m
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 07:41:27PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 14:08 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> > Mike Hommey wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 09:25:13PM +, Evgeni Golov
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:42:08 -0300 Paulo Marco
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 05:14:18PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> Magnus Holmgren wrote:
>
> >I'm in favour! (But are you requesting that aptitude use SI prefixes
> >correctly, or that it use IEC (binary) prefixes?
>
> I think we should go for the binary prefixes. Users will be confused
> when
> > You're *not* giving up the right not to distribute any source, because
> > you can always refrain from distributing the corresponding binaries and
> > have no obligation to provide source.
> >
> > You're *not* giving up the right to distribute binaries without
> > distributing the corresponding
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 04:36:06PM +0100, Luis Matos wrote:
> Ter, 2007-04-10 às 08:28 -0600, Warren Turkal escreveu:
> > On Tuesday 10 April 2007 07:43, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> > > > I may have exaggerated by saying 20 years, but I will not settle for
> > > > less than 10. And we need those
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 11:40:27AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> On 4/10/07, Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:00:08AM -0700, Sean Perry wrote:
> >> I haven't seen much Debian in the last 6 years in the comm
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:00:08AM -0700, Sean Perry wrote:
> I haven't seen much Debian in the last 6 years in the commercial
> world. RH rules that roost. If people have chosen closed source, then
> they likely are also paying for an enterprise edition of their free
> OS too. Linux == Redha
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 02:09:06PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 02:13:18PM +0100, Magnus Holmgren wrote:
> > dh_installdebconf adds a fixed dependency on debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0
> > to
> > ${misc:Depends} if debconf is actually needed. But judging from the
> > ch
t they. If anything, this should belong to
/var/lib/dpkg/
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Le 16 janv. 07 à 20:13, Don Armstrong a écrit :
This peoples will ask you for help and send all the logfiles maybe
in arabic, hindu or africaan.
So you ask them to translate or rerun the program with an appropriate
locale. Being able to speak all of the languages that Debian is in
isn't a req
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 10:12:14AM +, Oleg Verych wrote:
> On 2006-11-21, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Oleg Verych writes ("Re: Question about "Depends: bash""):
> >> o `arrays' bashizm -> tmp=$@ ; set -- $ARRAY ; use_array $@ ; set -- $tmp
> >
> > This is another piece of bad advice: this approach
Le 5 nov. 06 à 14:49, sean finney a écrit :
On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 14:04 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
The file does not get executed as expected, but the browser wants to
download it (which might be a security issue).
Then it is likely that you don't have php installed.
*or* that php is insta
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 07:20:12PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:32:39PM +0100, Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I've just upgraded #393913 from minor to important.
> >
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=393913
> >
> > Someb
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 02:30:09PM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
> I found a way to do it, but I think the solution was less than ideal:
>
> Install "Debarnacle" from CPAN (isn't even in debian...)
Supposing /etc/alternatives is correct, I have a script to do that:
for i in /var/lib/dpkg/alte
On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 07:01:22AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > install time are indeed buggy, but I see no indication that the jihad
> > against circular dependencies is making any such distinctions.
>
> It that's the case, I'm not sure this is the best way to make the
> point. I'm actua
On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 01:48:02AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> So certain bugs can be marked $STABLE-ignore to allow transient rc
> issues to be ignored for a release and will become no-ops after release.
> Are you suggesting that each package can have a related list of
> non-transient bugs that sho
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 12:58:27PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Aug 28, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > 1) Split out update-inetd from netbase into a new "inetd" package.
> No, because e.g. xinetd needs a totally different update-inetd program.
> It's simpler if each inetd package
Le 21 juil. 06 à 18:23, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
While it is true any file can be changed to change behaviour
for TeX (like things can be changed in /usr/include/foo.h to change
behaviour of a -dev package), any file with a name *.cnf is meant to
be a configuration file, and must,
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