Why is premail in non-free?

1998-05-03 Thread Christian Hudon
Could anyone tell me why premail is in non-free? I've read the license a couple of times, and I really don't see anything that would prevent it from being in main (or at least contrib). Am I missing something? Christian --- This is the Debian Linux prepackaged version of p

Re: Debian-Policy Manual

1997-06-29 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 22, Bruce Perens wrote > > Debian policy for systems 2.0 and above will be to have _no_editor_ > as part of the base system. If you want an editor, you must install Ahh... That should put an end to the endless editor threads. I'm all for it. Christian PS Is the bruce-bunchofnumbers add

Re: why are shared libs chmod +x? (again)

1997-06-29 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 27, David Frey wrote > > The only reason I remember is that the shared libraries are > > "executed", only not from the commandline, but within other binaries. > > This might be, but the linker doesn't care. > (In Debian 1.1 we had the shared libraries 644, IIRC). Stuff that you can't do a

Re: why are shared libs chmod +x? (again)

1997-06-27 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 25, David Frey wrote > > On Sun, Jun 1 1997 21:24 +0200 Christian Schwarz writes: > > Can someone tell me why shared libs should be installed executable? > > (Actually, Christoph Lameter wants to know this, cf. #7129, but since I > > don't know this either I'll redirect the questio

Re: Anyone made a qmail-1.01 experimental package.

1997-06-27 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 23, Rob Browning wrote > > I was going to try out qmail, and I just wanted to see if anyone had > made a package of 1.01. I mailed Christian, but I haven't heard back > from him yet, and I thought someone else might have packaged it for > their own internal use. Sorry, I haven't had time

Re: Problem: bash 2.01 dumps core!

1997-06-21 Thread Christian Hudon
It's me again... I fixed the problem by symlinking sh to zsh and doing a "dpkg --configure -a". ldconfig got run a couple of times, and I suspect this is what fixed the problem because the output of ldd /bin/bash looks much saner now: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~/deb] >ldd /bin/bash libreadline.s

Problem: bash 2.01 dumps core!

1997-06-21 Thread Christian Hudon
I hit a small problem while installing packages from Incoming... Bash now dumps core on startup. And one of the interesting side effects of this is that I can't install/remove packages anymore: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~chrish/deb] #dpkg -i libc5_5.4.33-5_i386.deb (Reading database ... 53797 files and

Re: Debian-Policy Manual

1997-06-21 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 17, Scott Ellis wrote > > I believe that the plan is to have them managed by update-alternatives, > and therefore be symlinks. Less will probably have a higher priority than > more, although I don't know who gets to win the war over which editor is > best, although I suspect a vi varient o

Re: GNU stow

1997-06-18 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 17, Charles Briscoe-Smith wrote [snip] > > Finally, I'm looking at GSPreview (similar to ghostview) and UPS (the > graphical debugger) with a view to packaging them. Anyone else working > on these already? If memory serves, UPS is listed in Sven "Packages Wanted" FAQ. And I believe it's l

Re: Debian target audience

1997-06-18 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 16, Alex Yukhimets wrote > > I am sorry to say, but you are wrong. Even on this list there were > several postings regarding this matter. There are several known > problems and who knows how many unknown. You just can't afford to > experiment with "production" system this way. Anyway, I co

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-15 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 14, Mark Baker wrote > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >: It might be good if we would replace smail in hamm with exim. Exim should > >: be the standard mailer for hamm: > > > > ... hmmm, ``never change a running system'', and

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-15 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 14, John Goerzen wrote > Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > It might be good if we would replace smail in hamm with exim. Exim should > > be the standard mailer for hamm: > > Exim doesn't provide UUCP capabilities *at all*, thus it is rather > useless for sites that

Re: Bug#10516: gs-aladdin: Depends on svgalib1 (>= 1.210-1) which does not allow svgalib-dummy to fulfill the dependency

1997-06-15 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 12, joost witteveen wrote > > Well, OK, I can see *somebody* wants this. > But still I'm not convinced this warrants inclusion in stable. > Are there other people that would like the dependancy change > > - Depends: svgalib1 (>= 1:1.2.10-2) > + Depends: svgalib1 (>= 1:1.2.10-2)|svgadummy >

Re: Simple policy question...

1997-06-15 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 13, Sam Ockman wrote > Okay, so say some random person who has installed Debian wants XEmacs 19.15 > because he needs some feature. This seems like a reasonable request... He > could get it from the Hamm distribution, except that would mean he'd need > libc6...and he doesn't want to do tha

Re: Adding conffiles to a package

1997-06-15 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 12, Kai Henningsen wrote > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philippe Troin) wrote on 12.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I'm stuck with the diald package, and I've got problems with users > > from old versions. The thing is: > > the files /etc/diald/diald.ip-{up,down} weren't conffiles, and now > > t

Re: dselect installs only main distribution not non-free

1997-06-15 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 11, Zlatko Calusic wrote > > --- install.origThu Dec 5 07:37:33 1996 > +++ install Wed Apr 16 01:47:54 1997 > @@ -139,6 +139,7 @@ > print "\nProcessing Package files...\n"; > my $dist; > foreach $dist (@dists) { > +$dist =~ tr/\//_/; > my $fn = "Packages.$dist"; >

Re: libc6 utmp and wtmp [Was: Re: official C library]

1997-06-06 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 6, Michael Meskes wrote > ssh seems to use login. IMO you forgot one very important player: xbase. > Lot's of people use xterm. rxvt should be in this list, too. Ssh doesn't use login. /* login.c Author: Tatu Ylonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Copyright (c) 1995 Tatu Ylonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 2, Raul Miller wrote > > [Note: what RMS is trying to argue against is the stunt > Steve Jobs & Co. pulled with Objective C.] Could you describe what the said 'stunt' was? I'm curious... Christian pgpyv2Q82qumI.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-06-02 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 1, Jason Gunthorpe wrote > > There is something called the UltraSound Project. They have made OSS > interface compatible drivers for the various GUS based cards. But they are > not included in the official kernel, you have to get it and build it as a > module yourself :< Is it useable? Is

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-30 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 29, Bruce Perens wrote > There actually is a packages.debian.org domain aliased on "master", I > had problems making it work because darned qmail won't parse a full > RFC822 address on the command line (it wants you to remove the > comments). If someone wants to spend some time on a simple m

Re: man page section "debian" ?

1997-05-26 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 26, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote > hy. > > AFAIK there is no manual, list or whatever of debian specific things. > so, what about moving all manpages that are debian related to have the > suffix "debian" ? this way anyone can go and say : ok, i know unix, and > i was using other distributions

Re: ssh and default home directory permissions (revisited?)

1997-05-26 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 26, Pete Templin wrote > > On 26 May 1997, Carey Evans wrote: > > > I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the > > programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think > > anything would break because of removing these permissions, so maybe > > adduser

Re: May I remove a "feature" from man? [was: Bug#10039]

1997-05-26 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 25, Fabrizio Polacco wrote > Hi folks! > > Bug#10039 exposed a problem with the "feature" of man to index all the > 'man' and 'MAN' subdirectory it finds in the HOME and current directory, > when it is invoked. How about having it just index $HOME/man by default, and adding a switch to tur

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-25 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 24, Tom Lees wrote > > The third solution, which I prefer is a utility which modifies the > variables within the scripts - it's faster, it is more "backwards > compatible" with sysadmins from other Unices, and generally it's nicer > (less dependant on the cfgtool at boot-time). And it chan

Re: Donald Becker's ethernet drivers

1997-05-23 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 22, Raul Miller wrote > Any chance of getting the ethernet drivers listed as "supported" > in the ethernet howto, but stored at cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov instead > of in the main linux kernel, included in the base debian kernel > distribution? Do they compile as modules? Maybe someone could pack

Re: Debian 1.3 Release Candidate

1997-05-22 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 21, Brian White wrote > > **** > ** Debian 1.3 Release Candidate ** > ** ~~

Re: RFC: Kernel-package: Please add the '.config' file in the binary package

1997-05-19 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 19, Manoj Srivastava wrote > My 2 cents: I think I agree with Vincent Renardias ; the > kernel configuration file really belongs in /boot. However, I do not > feel comfortable taking unilateral decisions about something as > touchy as /boot (some people require thin root partitions)

Re: Behaviour of "Conflicts:"

1997-05-16 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 13, Todd Harper wrote > > I'm curious about how dpkg handles the "Conflicts:" line of packages > that are already installed on the machine. If package X conflicts > with package Y, and Y is already installed, I cannot install X. This > is normal. BUT... if X is installed, what happens i

Re: Wishing to maintain package 'dpkg-ftp'

1997-05-13 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 13, Yann Dirson wrote > > It seems that this package hasn't evolved for quite a long time. As > there are many bug-reports, and as I worked out fixes for some of > them, I suppose its maintainer has no time for it, and I'm wishing to > maintain it. Have you tried to email the current maint

Re: master.debian.org not responding?

1996-09-17 Thread Christian Hudon
On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote: > Hello, > > I try to connect to master.debian.org for three days without success. Ping > fails, and traceroute cannot reach it too. What happened? Looks like it's back up. I'm logged on master in another window right now... Christian

Bug#4444: Wrong permission for files under /usr/doc/samba

1996-09-09 Thread Christian Hudon
Package: samba Version: 1.9.16alpha10-1 The files under /usr/doc/samba are all 640. They should be 644 so that non-root people can read them. Christian

Bug#4272: ncftp dumps core when xterm window is too wide

1996-08-26 Thread Christian Hudon
Package: ncftp Version: 2.3.0-5 Ncftp dumps core when invoked in an xterm window of width 160 or more. Looks like this is a ncftp bug and not a ncurses ones... Dselect works just fine in wide windows, and so does pine. Christian Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Co

Bug#4020: Base shouldn't contain /var/run/utmp

1996-08-05 Thread Christian Hudon
Package: base Version: 1.1.0-14 The newest base contains a /var/run/utmp file of length 0. When upgrading a running system, this: - causes the list of people currently online to be lost - makes tools like 'w' segfault until one login occurs. Fix : remove /var/run/utmp from base. Christian PS

Re: this is not working.... (fwd)

1996-06-29 Thread Christian Hudon
Could we do something similar with the Debian mailing lists? Especially for unsubscribe requests being sent to the lists themselves. Christian -- Forwarded message -- Date: 30 Jun 1996 02:35:51 - From: "D. J. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: