Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-06 Thread Joachim Zobel
Am Freitag, dem 06.06.2025 um 18:49 +0100 schrieb Richard Lewis: > my "suggestion", if you can call it that, is that historitically debian > has tried to direct people to "package something new", but this doesnt > seem to work very well any more - most things are already packages or > are not suita

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-06 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 06:49:38PM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote: Consider this random new contributor's experience: 1. Go to https://www.debian.org/, click on "Get Involved, Contribute" 2. Read https://www.debian.org/devel/join/, points you to "WNPP" Of course, this is my opinion, but it's deb

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-06 Thread Richard Lewis
Andrey Rakhmatullin writes: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 09:48:47PM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote: > Consider this random new contributor's experience: > > 1. Go to https://www.debian.org/, click on "Get Involved, Contribute" > 2. Read https://www.debian.org/devel/join/, points you to "

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-06 Thread Alec Leamas
On 06/06/2025 14:43, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Ignoring the "where newcomers probably are" part, I wonder what people > think of Zulip? > > https://zulip.com/ > https://github.com/zulip/zulip/ Using it regularly in the some projects. Overall happy with it. It does what it should, has an open

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 04 Jun 2025, Russ Allbery wrote: > Marc Haber writes: > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 08:32:49AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> Yes? I refuse to use IRC because I find it annoying, and yet I seem to > >> put up with all of the rest of our peculiarities. :) > > > Would you use Matrix, XMPP

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people (was: Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-06-06 Thread Ansgar 🙀
Hi, On Fri, 2025-06-06 at 10:51 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 12:48:11PM +0200, Ansgar 🙀 wrote: > > > Also they contribute massivly to burning down our only planet > > > faster. > > So do in-person conferences, rebuilding software just to observe > > that > > no changes hap

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people (was: Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-06-06 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 12:48:11PM +0200, Ansgar 🙀 wrote: > > Also they contribute massivly to burning down our only planet faster. > So do in-person conferences, rebuilding software just to observe that > no changes happen, horseshit. those things dont require dozens of entire powerplants...

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people (was: Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-06-06 Thread Ansgar 🙀
Hi, On Fri, 2025-06-06 at 10:33 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 12:03:32PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > or maybe Debian should not. > > Maybe. Honestly, I don't know. >   > I'd rather not take their offer based on moral grounds: they stole > and > steal from everyone an

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people (was: Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-06-06 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 12:03:32PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > or maybe Debian should not. > Maybe. Honestly, I don't know. I'd rather not take their offer based on moral grounds: they stole and steal from everyone and want to make that normal. And for that, they offer some breadcrumbs to th

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people (was: Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-06-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 05/06/25 at 11:38 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 05:04:34PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > OpenAI has an Open Source fund. Maybe Debian should apply[1] for a grant > > so that Debian contributors could get hands-on experience on how this > > could help their Debian activ

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-06 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 10:06:59PM +0100, Ahmad Khalifa wrote: Consider this random new contributor's experience: 1. Go to https://www.debian.org/, click on "Get Involved, Contribute" 2. Read https://www.debian.org/devel/join/, points you to "WNPP" Of course, this is my opinion, but it's deb

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-06 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 09:48:47PM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote: Consider this random new contributor's experience: 1. Go to https://www.debian.org/, click on "Get Involved, Contribute" 2. Read https://www.debian.org/devel/join/, points you to "WNPP" Of course, this is my opinion, but it's deb