On Wed, 04 Jun 2025, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Marc Haber <mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de> writes:
> > On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 08:32:49AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> 
> >> Yes? I refuse to use IRC because I find it annoying, and yet I seem to
> >> put up with all of the rest of our peculiarities. :)
> 
> > Would you use Matrix, XMPP or some of those modern chat systems?
> 
> No, which, fair point, you were making a point in context about adopting
> those new systems and I lost the context. Sorry about that; my message
> wasn't very useful.
> 
> Sadly I'm not sure there's a great option for real-time chat that both
> follows our free software principles and would reach newcomers where they
> probably are. The option that would maximize outreach is probably Discord,
> which has obvious issues.

Ignoring the "where newcomers probably are" part, I wonder what people
think of Zulip?

https://zulip.com/
https://github.com/zulip/zulip/

There's also mattermost but it's open core and the company apparently made some
not very nice moves by removing features from the community version.

https://mattermost.com/download/
https://github.com/mattermost/mattermost

Cheers,
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