Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Anton Gladky
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 at 10:16, Michael Biebl wrote:
> michael@mars:~$ loginctl
> SESSION UID USERSEAT LEADER CLASS TTY IDLE SINCE
>3 1000 michael seat0 2116 usertty1 no -
>4 1000 michael - 2125 manager -no -
>
> 2 sessions listed.
>
> michael@mars:~$ who
At 2025-04-04T00:46:03+0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> PS: I never understood why there's both w and who, and why they are
> different implementations.
As I understand it, it's the same reason as why more(1) vs. pg(1) and
why lp(1) vs. lpd(1)--the AT&T/USG/USL vs. BSD schism.
who(1) goes all th
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 12:46:03AM +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
But the thing that needs looking at is why who in Debian behaves like
it does, and if it doesn't work right, fix that in who or wherever
else it needs fixing in the stack.
Because I haven't turned it on, because I'm really unh
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 07:52:12PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Apr 03, Michael Stone wrote:
The issue isn't making a change, the issue is what change is the
right thing to do. IMO, dropping utmp without any kind of a
transition or deprecation period is the wrong thing to do. Hence
this thre
On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 at 09:46, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> Maybe it needs some additional work to fully function
> with current systemd versions. IIRC procps also only recently added
> some new code to deal with new systemd behaviours.
>
That's right, we were counting sessions, not user sessions.
Am 04.04.25 um 00:46 schrieb Chris Hofstaedtler:
Maybe it needs some additional work to fully function with current
systemd versions. IIRC procps also only recently added some new code to
deal with new systemd behaviours.
Maybe try the attached patch. With it applied I get:
michael@mars:~$
package: releasenotes
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On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 03:27:05PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote
Message-ID: <70ba7152-0f2e-11f0-9b6a-00163eeb5...@msgid.mathom.us>
to debian-devel@l.d.o stating:
> /run/utmp is no longer provided in trixie, which means that the mech
* Michael Stone [250403 23:42]:
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 07:52:12PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Apr 03, Michael Stone wrote:
The issue isn't making a change, the issue is what change is the
right thing to do. IMO, dropping utmp without any kind of a
transition or deprecation period is the w
On Apr 03, Michael Stone wrote:
The issue isn't making a change, the issue is what change is the right
thing to do. IMO, dropping utmp without any kind of a transition or
deprecation period is the wrong thing to do. Hence this thread.
I think it's a bit late now to disagree with the plan imple
On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 03:27:05PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> /run/utmp is no longer provided in trixie, which means that the mechanisms
> used to show active sessions in unix for several decades no longer work.
> There's a replacement mechanism provided by systemd, but it's not 1:1. I
> propose
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